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• Pat is right and though I am posting a reply, we should stick to news.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:27:14 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:27:14 AM" ) )Monday, March 28, 2011 12:27 AM
• @Jojo - My concern is twofold. 1) Chernobyl is being used more and more as an argument FOR nuclear energy. 2) Nobody is telling the general public the true story about alpha- and beta-emitters. - Gamma rays are nasty but the real trouble lies in the accumulation of inhaled and ingested radia-active partcles.
  by Cup at 3/28/2011 6:26:51 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:26:51 AM" ) )12:26 AM yesterday
• Hilarious Bev...facts by TEPCO
  by Sin at 3/28/2011 6:26:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:26:44 AM" ) )12:26 AM yesterday
• And speaking of TEPCO what is the status of the reactors?
  by Terratalk at 3/28/2011 6:26:34 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:26:34 AM" ) )12:26 AM yesterday
• Is this place going to devolve into a liberal blogosphere? If so, I'm out. I'm not here for preaching, politics, sermons, shamans, green energy, military industrial complex complaints, pro-nuke speeches, anti-nuke speeches or commentary on God or the lack thereof. Can we stick to the false facts provided by TEPCO, PLEASE?
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 6:26:09 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:26:09 AM" ) )12:26 AM yesterday
• @all please guys this isn't a chat room.
  by Patrick Kelley at 3/28/2011 6:26:00 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:26:00 AM" ) )12:26 AM yesterday
• I am not a beck follower, geez, get a sense of humor.
  by Sin at 3/28/2011 6:25:48 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:25:48 AM" ) )12:25 AM yesterday
• @Sin - I try. I'm surprised no one's mentioned my name.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:25:17 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:25:17 AM" ) )12:25 AM yesterday
• What is the current status of the reactors?
  by Terratalk at 3/28/2011 6:24:57 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:24:57 AM" ) )12:24 AM yesterday
• @MaryW just don't watch it.
  by Sin at 3/28/2011 6:24:55 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:24:55 AM" ) )12:24 AM yesterday
• Did I post a Beck video? I am not a mo9d IIRC.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:24:52 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:24:52 AM" ) )12:24 AM yesterday
• Can we somehow get the glenn beck video removed from this blog? Ralph? please?
  by MaryW at 3/28/2011 6:23:53 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:23:53 AM" ) )12:23 AM yesterday
• Half life times 10 is the time it takes to basically be gone. 30 years times 10 ...
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:23:29 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:23:29 AM" ) )12:23 AM yesterday
• @hank scorpio.....I enjoyed your Fallout reference.
  by Sin at 3/28/2011 6:23:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:23:02 AM" ) )12:23 AM yesterday
• Caesium-134 = 2.0652 years
  Caesium-136 = 13.6 days
  Caesium-137 = 30.17 years
  by Terratalk at 3/28/2011 6:22:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:22:58 AM" ) )12:22 AM yesterday
• @MaryW Well i don't suggest we evacuate the plants
  by Pat at 3/28/2011 6:22:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:22:44 AM" ) )12:22 AM yesterday
• depends on which cesium
  by Terratalk at 3/28/2011 6:22:34 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:22:34 AM" ) )12:22 AM yesterday
• 
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  by MaryW at 3/28/2011 6:22:18 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:22:18 AM" ) )12:22 AM yesterday
• Really? I could never listen to him more than a minute without turning him off ...
  by Terratalk at 3/28/2011 6:21:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:21:58 AM" ) )12:21 AM yesterday
• 30 year half life for cesium as I recall.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:21:56 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:21:56 AM" ) )12:21 AM yesterday
• He still has quite a following. I don't understand it, I never watched him before but he seems insane.
  by Sin at 3/28/2011 6:21:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:21:44 AM" ) )12:21 AM yesterday
• Same with the cows and all other animals surviving from the earth.
  by MaryW at 3/28/2011 6:21:30 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:21:30 AM" ) )12:21 AM yesterday
• @Terra - Apparently. It consists of old people who hold signs saying "Keep your government hands off my Medicare"
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:21:16 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:21:16 AM" ) )12:21 AM yesterday
• Beck has an audience?
  by Terratalk at 3/28/2011 6:20:41 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:20:41 AM" ) )12:20 AM yesterday
• Does sugar come from salt? Dirty earth , dirty plants, but only for about 300 years.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:20:34 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:20:34 AM" ) )12:20 AM yesterday
• @Sin - Beck's audience is dwindling. Apparently retards get tired of crying and chalkboard spasms.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:20:09 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:20:09 AM" ) )12:20 AM yesterday
• I agree with banning the FOX blogger. I am serious.
  by MaryW at 3/28/2011 6:20:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:20:08 AM" ) )12:20 AM yesterday
• What did Warren Buffet say? Link?
  by jgbarr at 3/28/2011 6:19:50 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:19:50 AM" ) )12:19 AM yesterday
• I do not need to be banned. this is what a large portion of US believes. Know thy enemy and such.
  by Sin at 3/28/2011 6:19:32 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:19:32 AM" ) )12:19 AM yesterday
• Will they be able to plant 'clean' veges in the same ground the contaminated one grew in? NO
  by MaryW at 3/28/2011 6:19:20 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:19:20 AM" ) )12:19 AM yesterday
• Berkshire Hathaway should have to shoulder the bill for Warren Buffett's idiotic comments.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:18:52 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:18:52 AM" ) )12:18 AM yesterday
• The taxpayers will have to pay for most of it.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:18:46 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:18:46 AM" ) )12:18 AM yesterday
• Like in the US, all of that is lost, but Tepco will not have to pay for it, there is a liability cap.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:18:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:18:22 AM" ) )12:18 AM yesterday
• Whoever post's GLENN BECK needs to be BANNED !!!!
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 6:18:15 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:18:15 AM" ) )12:18 AM yesterday
• I'm tired ... my numbers aren't coming out correctly ... yes its 131 ... I should know ... I am a thyroid cancer survivor. They used radioactive Iodine after surgery to kill the rest of my thyroid cells. Thanks to nuclear testing in the 50's!
  by Terratalk at 3/28/2011 6:18:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:18:02 AM" ) )12:18 AM yesterday
• @Sin - Does Beck cry in that video?
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:17:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:17:58 AM" ) )12:17 AM yesterday
• NOOOOOOO!
  by Pat at 3/28/2011 6:17:51 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:17:51 AM" ) )12:17 AM yesterday
• @Pat - Possibly. It depends on what the eventual outcome is.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:17:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:17:44 AM" ) )12:17 AM yesterday

• Glenn Beck explains how Nuclear reactors work using M&Ms.

  by Sin at 3/28/2011 6:17:34 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:17:34 AM" ) )12:17 AM yesterday
• I was thinking about the cows...they are dumping the milk now but will these animals be able to excrete the radiation and be future dairy cows and meat?
  by Pat at 3/28/2011 6:17:04 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:17:04 AM" ) )12:17 AM yesterday
• @Cup Gotcha. The health risks due to radiation are undeniable; the problem with Chernobyl is that it's so widespread it's impossible to tell how much radiation any one person got, so the nuke industry can just claim "no ill effects". That ship has sailed, we already know the effects.
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 6:17:00 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:17:00 AM" ) )12:17 AM yesterday
• :-)
  by Cup at 3/28/2011 6:16:48 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:16:48 AM" ) )12:16 AM yesterday
• Sorry @Cup. No can do. American Idol's on.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:16:32 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:16:32 AM" ) )12:16 AM yesterday
• It's time that we demand from our governments that they are honest about the risks of all forms of man-made radiation and that the perpetrators of pertinent and persistent lies are prosecuted.
  by Cup at 3/28/2011 6:16:03 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:16:03 AM" ) )12:16 AM yesterday
• I stand corrected 8.02 days ... Potassium Iodine (PI)
  by Terratalk at 3/28/2011 6:15:21 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:15:21 AM" ) )12:15 AM yesterday

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• @Cup sometimes even the nuke insiders have some doubts. Ree-post link www.atomicinsights.blogspot.com
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 6:15:17 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:15:17 AM" ) )12:15 AM yesterday
• Look at the Tepco readings they are releasing, it is textbook 131 decay.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:15:14 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:15:14 AM" ) )12:15 AM yesterday
• "I'm gonna take some Magnum PI pills if your dad's plant explodes." Ralph Wiggum to Bart Simpson
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:14:56 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:14:56 AM" ) )12:14 AM yesterday
• PI pills? KI?
  by jgbarr at 3/28/2011 6:14:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:14:10 AM" ) )12:14 AM yesterday
• @Terratalk - It's Iodine 131 and the half-life is about 8 days.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:13:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:13:59 AM" ) )12:13 AM yesterday
• @Jojo - Hope you caught my intention. Although I have no medical background myself, I'm much more convinced by Alexey Yablokov et al.'s study of the consequences of Chernobyl than anything the IAEA, WHO or military-industrial complex says. Point is that the pro-nuclear lobby still gets away with their obfuscations and that we still let them.
  by Cup at 3/28/2011 6:13:45 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:13:45 AM" ) )12:13 AM yesterday
• Which will never happen...
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:13:42 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:13:42 AM" ) )12:13 AM yesterday
• @Pat - Radioactive Iodine is eliminated from the body, but after it does damage to your thyroid, that is why some people are concerned. In a high enough dosage it can kill thyroid cells. However, the levels of Iodine-133 currently being detected are very, very low and since the half life is approximately 5 days it will dissipate very quickly. No need for those PI pills!
  by Terratalk at 3/28/2011 6:13:17 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:13:17 AM" ) )12:13 AM yesterday
• I am pro nuke too, if it is handled by engineers and not politicos and governments.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:13:09 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:13:09 AM" ) )12:13 AM yesterday
• OK. I hate liars and revisionists. I'm pro-nuke but let's be honest about it, k?
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:12:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:12:08 AM" ) )12:12 AM yesterday
• Hey Hank... c'mon man. Don't go all Jim Gardener. Hold it together.
  by jgbarr at 3/28/2011 6:12:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:12:08 AM" ) )12:12 AM yesterday
• @Hank ya made your point.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:10:53 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:10:53 AM" ) )12:10 AM yesterday
• I prefer Nuka Cola Quantum to help rinse down my Mirelurk cakes.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:10:33 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:10:33 AM" ) )12:10 AM yesterday
• i know right, and they are still moist when you eat them, so good food for the nuclear world.
  by FradyKat at 3/28/2011 6:10:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:10:06 AM" ) )12:10 AM yesterday
• Awful, awful awful
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 6:09:57 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:09:57 AM" ) )12:09 AM yesterday
• @Jojo www.rerf.jp the Radiaton effects research council did 60 years of studies on Hiroshima Nagasaki (distance from bomb, exposure, etc) and had this to say about "why we won't learn much from fukushima www.npr.org
  by Pat at 3/28/2011 6:09:52 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:09:52 AM" ) )12:09 AM yesterday
• Should I continue?
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:09:46 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:09:46 AM" ) )12:09 AM yesterday
• @Cup....If you sincerely believe all that you just posted you are a fool. There is no scientific consensus on anything. You obviously have the internet, so I would suggest that you use it to do some research and find out the facts for yourself instead of just following someone else's lead on anything. Start with Chernobyl.
  by Sin at 3/28/2011 6:09:43 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:09:43 AM" ) )12:09 AM yesterday
• 

  silencedmajority.blogs.com Perfectly normal.

  by Hank Scorpio via Silencedmajority.blogs at 3/28/2011 6:09:36 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:09:36 AM" ) )12:09 AM yesterday
• 

  heyokamagazine.com None here either.

  by Hank Scorpio via Heyokamagazine at 3/28/2011 6:09:04 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:09:04 AM" ) )12:09 AM yesterday
• Most Debbie cakes have been around so long, they must have absorbed a lot of radioactivity.Just from natural sources.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:08:54 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:08:54 AM" ) )12:08 AM yesterday
• 

  www.progettohumus.it No abnormalities here.

  by Hank Scorpio via Progettohumus.it at 3/28/2011 6:08:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:08:35 AM" ) )12:08 AM yesterday
• @FradyKat LMFAO
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 6:07:47 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:07:47 AM" ) )12:07 AM yesterday
• @Pat I think it's that some of the isotopes, like iodine and cessium, mimic good minerals like potassium and the body absorbs them. Then, cause of the rad, they degrade cells. And the radiation like the gamma, is like fissioning your cells. I'm tired, and this is way over-simplified, but maybe that helps?
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 6:07:27 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:07:27 AM" ) )12:07 AM yesterday
• @dean Stay sharp tomorrow, you have to answer a lot :-)
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 6:07:18 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:07:18 AM" ) )12:07 AM yesterday
• Just eat lots of little debbie cakes, nothing can live in those things.
  by FradyKat at 3/28/2011 6:06:56 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:06:56 AM" ) )12:06 AM yesterday
• @Cup The scientific consensus is that radiation is directly responsible for cancer, birth defects, and genetic abnormalities. Other than that, it's just great. Perhaps you forgot to mention the increased incidence of Down's SYndrome as relates to Chernobyl.
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 6:06:53 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:06:53 AM" ) )12:06 AM yesterday
• good night all....
  by dean at 3/28/2011 6:06:18 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:06:18 AM" ) )12:06 AM yesterday
• www.meti.go.jp latest update march 28, 2011 (in japanese, i put in google translate to read)
  by dtinla at 3/28/2011 6:06:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:06:08 AM" ) )12:06 AM yesterday
• Calcium, not potassium.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:05:36 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:05:36 AM" ) )12:05 AM yesterday
• oops... finger slippage... the actinides are bad actors when released , if they get released
  by dean at 3/28/2011 6:05:27 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:05:27 AM" ) )12:05 AM yesterday
• @Pat Not usually, it depends on the source, most when ingested are gonna stay with you for a very long time and than you gottta deal with them forever.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:05:25 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:05:25 AM" ) )12:05 AM yesterday
• @Pat - No, they don't. Iodine is taken up by the thyroid and can easily cause thyroid cancer. Cesium is far worse as it mimics potassium and the body absorbs it as such. Know where calcium goes? To the bones. It causes leukemia. No, it doesn't just go away.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 6:05:16 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:05:16 AM" ) )12:05 AM yesterday
• time to sleep some more.. it's 12 pm here and I wake up at 5:30... here is a thought all of you probably know by now. but the 'ACTINIDES
  by dean at 3/28/2011 6:04:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:04:59 AM" ) )12:04 AM yesterday
• @Cup And the UN report doesn't say one way or another what the effects of Chernobyl are. It does point to an increase of leukemia (with fatality rates much higher than thyroid cancer), but says it's inconclusive. But we have decades of evidence pointing to adverse effects to radiation.
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 6:04:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:04:44 AM" ) )12:04 AM yesterday
• @marie rich Well, if they post "TEPERATURE", it's ovah :-))
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 6:03:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:03:58 AM" ) )12:03 AM yesterday
• I suppose when NISA finally posts it will say : TEPERATURE- yes, PRESSURE-yes...
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 6:03:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:03:10 AM" ) )12:03 AM yesterday
• Just a parting thought ... did anyone know that Dai-ichi had two more reactors scheduled to be constructed starting April 2012? That would have made 8 reactors in one location. AGHHHHHH!
  by Terratalk at 3/28/2011 6:02:46 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:02:46 AM" ) )12:02 AM yesterday
• Don't people excrete the radiation that they injest? Isn't that why a cow's milk is contaiminated? They were excretting the radioactive isotopes?
  by Pat at 3/28/2011 6:01:28 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:01:28 AM" ) )12:01 AM yesterday
• @Cup Wow, that's just ridiculous. You'd think no one died of cancer from Hiroshima/Nagasaki, that nuclear plant workers don't get cancers more frequently, or xray techs, or international airline pilots. Yeah, radiation is completely safe.
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 6:01:26 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:01:26 AM" ) )12:01 AM yesterday
• The last time i remember posting a link about "I hope they are on top of this threat" was 2 or 3 days ago. Referring to the focus on the #3reactor as I recall.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 6:00:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:00:59 AM" ) )12:00 AM yesterday
• Sleep round so you don't turn square :-)
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 6:00:43 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:00:43 AM" ) )12:00 AM yesterday
• Nite
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 6:00:17 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 6:00:17 AM" ) )12:00 AM yesterday
• Night...night everyone!
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 5:59:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:59:49 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:59:49 PM
• GOD There's no there, there. what a joke
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:59:07 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:59:07 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:59:07 PM

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• @Marie: One paragraph??? geez!
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 5:58:24 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:58:24 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:58:24 PM
• @dean No, they said it would take days to analyze. TEPCO sent samples out to be independently checked for plutonium: www3.nhk.or.jp
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:57:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:57:08 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:57:08 PM
• Should we really be worried about all this? Shouldn't we follow Wade Allison's lead (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12860842 ) and embrace radiation instead of running away from it? If no one died because of Three Mile Island and fewer than 50 people died because of Chernobyl, why are we then making ourselves miserable? Doesn't the IAEA's report on Chernobyl represent the scientific concensus? Isn't even plutonium completely harmless to the general public? (http://www.hps.org/documents/plutonium2.pdf ). Why are we wasting our time ignoring the scientific concensus? And if the scientific concensus is that there is virtually no risk to man-made radiation, aren't governments acting criminally by imposing ever tighter radiation standards? What is the scientific concensus on man-made radiation?
  by Cup at 3/28/2011 5:57:01 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:57:01 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:57:01 PM
• New update on JAIF www.jaif.or.jp
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:56:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:56:59 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:56:59 PM
• Ahh ty Karen.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:56:19 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:56:19 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:56:19 PM
• did the powers to be announce any acknowledgment of plutonium fall out?
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:56:05 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:56:05 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:56:05 PM
• @Ralph: I was replying to your post @10:42 w/link - "I hope they are on top of this threat."
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 5:55:57 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:55:57 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:55:57 PM
• I don't remember commenting about the heroic measure taken by the workers.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:55:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:55:22 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:55:22 PM
• marie.. what's the deal on the cl38? ... in context of things... "holding my eyes open with toothpicks"
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:55:19 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:55:19 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:55:19 PM
• And this link is from Sunday... www.meti.go.jp which shows massive dosage, as well as other elements (CO-58, Mo-99, Tc-99m, RU-106, Ag-108m,Te-129, Te-129m, Te-132, I-131, I-132, I-134, Cs-134, Cs-136, Cs-137, Ba-140, La-140
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:55:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:55:10 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:55:10 PM
• Go rest. we won't let the world explode while you're not looking. :)
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:54:29 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:54:29 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:54:29 PM
• @Karen, What did I miss?
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:53:57 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:53:57 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:53:57 PM
• < SLEEPY EYES... WHEWWWWWW...
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:53:47 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:53:47 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:53:47 PM
• YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNN,....
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:53:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:53:35 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:53:35 PM
• @Ralph: I can't imagine how. It's the same people doing it for two weeks and counting - working under extreme stress and probably with very little 'real' rest, adequate nutrition, etc. Couple it with the knowledge that you are on a suicide mission (these guys know the real story), and one starts to tune out. Hence, focus is lost and mistakes are made. Officials say that it'll take weeks or even months before its stable. The human psyche has limits especially when stretched that thin.
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 5:52:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:52:35 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:52:35 PM
• @Ralph Unger Possibly so. The original link they are commenting on is here: www.nisa.meti.go.jp This is from Friday, and it shows Cl-38, As-74, Y-91, I-131, Cs-134, Cs-136, Cs-137, La-140
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:52:33 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:52:33 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:52:33 PM
• Oh, It becomes clear. They are looking for the interaction with the sea water. Says large amounts of it were created when sea water was IRRATIATED by nuke bombs. Looking for rad mixing it up wiht chlorine in seawater?
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:52:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:52:22 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:52:22 PM
• arstechnica.com is what? A blog by alarmists I think.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:50:03 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:50:03 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:50:03 PM
• Thankyou teacher. i looked there but only under chlorine...sheesh
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:49:30 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:49:30 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:49:30 PM
• en.wikipedia.org
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:48:29 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:48:29 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:48:29 PM
• here's TEPCO revised puddle www.tepco.co.jp
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:48:24 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:48:24 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:48:24 PM
• chlorine radioactive isotopes that table shows the isotopes of chlorine
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:48:01 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:48:01 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:48:01 PM
• Actually, the arstechnica story arstechnica.com p.36 says it's about reactor #3, but the PDF states "unit 1".
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:48:00 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:48:00 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:48:00 PM
• Reality? I dunno, 1 reactor for 3 days out of control, or 4 reactors out of control for 14 days?
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:47:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:47:06 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:47:06 PM
• @narv891 Yes, we're talking different things. Your link (which does show Cl) is from Mar 25 and Reactor #2. My link was from Sat and for Reactor #2.
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:46:36 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:46:36 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:46:36 PM
• Dated 28Mar Readings www.mext.go.jp
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:45:52 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:45:52 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:45:52 PM
• @marie, the "radiation in daily life" cartoon characters in the mext.go.jp document are no longer smiling demonically -- now they look a little less enthused.
  by Alaskan at 3/28/2011 5:44:50 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:44:50 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:44:50 PM
• @marie rich - Call me paranoid, but it just doesn't take that long to determine if there's plutonium in the soil. No news is bad news from my vantage point.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 5:44:31 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:44:31 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:44:31 PM
• This report, dated March 26th 2011, from Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (N.I.S.A.) shows a different list of isotopes: www.nisa.meti.go.jp
  by narv891 at 3/28/2011 5:44:17 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:44:17 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:44:17 PM
• www.mext.go.jp
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:43:23 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:43:23 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:43:23 PM
• @dtinla Thank you. @Jojo It's contained in the NISA translation table dtinla posted.
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 5:43:23 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:43:23 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:43:23 PM
• This was dated 21Mar in RE: to soil sampling, and they're still saying it will take a few days
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:43:15 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:43:15 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:43:15 PM
• This was their original analysis:
  
  | isotope | Bq/cc |
  | Cl-38 | 1.6 * 10^6 | 4.81 (53%)
  | As-74 | 3.9 * 10^2 | 0.91 (26%)
  | Y-91 | 5.2 * 10^4 | 1.545 (100%)
  | I-131 | 2.1 * 10^5 | 0.606 (90%)
  | Cs-134 | 1.6 * 10^5 | 0.662 (71%)
  | Cs-136 | 1.7 * 10^4 | 0.341 (93%)
  | Cs-137 | 1.8 * 10^6 | 0.511 (94%), 1.176 (6%)
  | La-140 | 3.4 * 10^2 | 1.36 (35%)
  
  arstechnica.com
  by timme at 3/28/2011 5:43:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:43:10 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:43:10 PM
• @Bev There was one mention of Cl38 on one report and then nothing.
  by radioguy at 3/28/2011 5:42:30 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:42:30 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:42:30 PM
• www.nisa.meti.go.jp english version: March 27, 2011 report on samples taken March 26, 2011 The result of nuclide analysis in the stagnant water on the basement floor of the turbine building of each Unit of
  Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Station
  by dtinla at 3/28/2011 5:42:30 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:42:30 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:42:30 PM
• I should not have to re-post but.."I have no way of knowing how many days they have before a stainless steel component suddenly cracks, but if it were me, I would be advocating an emergency program to get pure deionzied cooling water back into this stainless steel system ASAP. In laboratory tests in boiling chlorides, cracking of stainless in tensile stress can occur within days- they have at most a few months if they keep boiling sea water in this system and yet another disaster occurs. I am sure there are competent scientists in Japan's nuclear industry and government regulators. I hope they are on top of this threat!" www.theoildrum.com
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:42:14 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:42:14 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:42:14 PM
• @dean - From the documentaries I've seen, it mixed with the sand initially to form solid globs as it slid and cooled. Years later, however, condensation was reaching it and causing it to return to a somewhat "oozy" state. I do not know what happened since. That information was current as of '91.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 5:42:12 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:42:12 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:42:12 PM
• @Bev I'm not sure. I haven't seen Cl in the links I have seen, so I can't comment on where they are.
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:40:48 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:40:48 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:40:48 PM
• good point karen... I wonder.. do you think the molten blob under the chernobyl sarcophagus is still molten? good one
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:40:31 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:40:31 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:40:31 PM
• Regarding the result of concentration measurement in the stagnant water on the basement floor of the turbine building of Unit 1 of Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Station March 25, 2011: www.nisa.meti.go.jp (lists Cl-38)
  by dtinla at 3/28/2011 5:40:27 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:40:27 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:40:27 PM
• @jojo I didn't see Cl38 on that PDF you posted, did they scrub it?
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 5:40:05 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:40:05 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:40:05 PM
• @dean but why would they care? surely corrossion would take awhile. and it's an isotope.
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:40:04 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:40:04 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:40:04 PM
• so,, ocean water probably has NaCl...which can interact with the radioative isotopes or neutrons. ... my spelling is bad.. YAWN..
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:39:37 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:39:37 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:39:37 PM
• Hey, one question. The answer will help me sleep better... seriously. "Edano told a news conference that the government believes the meltdown is not continuing." Simple speak: Is it possible for the process to self-terminate?
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 5:39:29 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:39:29 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:39:29 PM
• hey, new info on mext www.mext.go.jp
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:38:46 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:38:46 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:38:46 PM

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• in the reactor I'm associated with the chloring within the make up water (low pressure demineralized water) is kept at a very stringent level to prevent concentrations that can cause chloride stress corrosion
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:38:37 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:38:37 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:38:37 PM
• Here is the original document about the water found in each reactor: www.meti.go.jp
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:37:05 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:37:05 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:37:05 PM
• www.ead.anl.gov there is another link for chlorine
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:36:36 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:36:36 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:36:36 PM
• Where did you guys see that there was Cl in the "puddle" water? Or was this somewhere else? I haven't seen that element.
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:34:11 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:34:11 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:34:11 PM
• I'm going to bed, its snowing outside here in Canada, and now I just read about Radiation Rain in Boston and now I will have dreams of nuclear winter, just great..Lol.
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 5:34:04 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:34:04 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:34:04 PM
• For example, engineers are interested in knowing how seawater damages metals. This information is important in determining the best techniques to use in building ships. An experiment can be done by adding pieces of metal to seawater that contains radioactive chlorine-36. The sodium chloride in the seawater is changed slightly so that it contains radioactive chlorine instead of normal chlorine. As the sodium chloride attacks the metal, its actions can be followed easily. The radioactive chlorine, chlorine-36, gives off radiation. That radiation can be detected by holding an instrument near the experiment. A scientist can find out exactly what happens when the sodium chloride attacks the metal.
  
  Read more: www.chemistryexplained.com
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:33:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:33:59 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:33:59 PM
• Does anyone have a good source for info on radiation dosage and fractionation? All I can find is references to radiotherapy. I want to understand how fractionated dosages influence risk for nuclear workers and the public.
  by Alaskan at 3/28/2011 5:33:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:33:44 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:33:44 PM
• @Karen Warren Good night Karen. Hey, this is work lol
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:33:38 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:33:38 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:33:38 PM
• @Sky known fear-mongers.Not that they are wrong but consider the source.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:33:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:33:08 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:33:08 PM
• I searched hard and found some very technical papers on chlorine isotope. couldn't make any connections.
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:32:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:32:59 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:32:59 PM
• Have some work to do before turning in. G/night all!
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 5:32:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:32:59 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:32:59 PM
• I'm researching... I haven't run into radioactive chlorine at least in my world... I'll get something
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:31:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:31:49 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:31:49 PM
• @Lethbridgean I think, this is a graphical display of Sewerts ?
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 5:31:37 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:31:37 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:31:37 PM
• @VeenOui - what is that? Snow?
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 5:30:39 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:30:39 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:30:39 PM
• Sorry hit the return by accident.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:30:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:30:22 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:30:22 PM
• Even the person who posted it said.. ?m Way out of linene.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:29:07 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:29:07 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:29:07 PM
• hmmmmm
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:28:45 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:28:45 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:28:45 PM
• Earlier today somebody quoted from arstechnica forum (sp.?) and said that isotope of chlorine is a "demon element" or something. They listed all the decays and radioactivity of each, and said it was awful. I had no context for what was said, however, so can't independently check it.
  by Sky at 3/28/2011 5:27:25 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:27:25 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:27:25 PM
• @dean Hey Dean, does this make sense to you ?
  microsievert.net
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 5:27:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:27:02 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:27:02 PM
• my mind is not woke up yet.. whewwwwwww.... let me pinch myself
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:26:48 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:26:48 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:26:48 PM
• marie.. is it ci.. or cl?
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:26:13 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:26:13 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:26:13 PM
• @Ralph: Just another beautiful day at TEPCO Fukushima.
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 5:26:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:26:06 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:26:06 PM
• @Sky That's what I was searching for with regard to the Cl38, thank you!
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 5:26:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:26:02 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:26:02 PM
• en.wikipedia.org(nuclear_reactor) en.wikipedia.org
  by Deirdre at 3/28/2011 5:25:55 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:25:55 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:25:55 PM
• Radioactive rain in Mass. - BostonHerald.com: bit.ly
  by Andy at 3/28/2011 5:25:43 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:25:43 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:25:43 PM
• BEV.. does sky's post link work ok..
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:25:28 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:25:28 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:25:28 PM
• A couple of links for late night reading:
  by Deirdre at 3/28/2011 5:24:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:24:35 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:24:35 PM
• Cl 38 I thought. it's much lighter than 138
  by Sky at 3/28/2011 5:24:31 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:24:31 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:24:31 PM
• "new-aerial-video-of-fukushima-dated-march-27-at-10am-in-japan" .... in enenews.com
  by elalak at 3/28/2011 5:24:16 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:24:16 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:24:16 PM
• @Dean we were all wondering at the significance of Cl138 Help me, Ralph, was that the number?
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:23:40 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:23:40 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:23:40 PM
• The sky is blue. Under moderation and not gonna be posted.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:23:00 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:23:00 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:23:00 PM
• For decay chart, try periodictable.com If you click an element then click on isotopes and click on a specific isotope, it draws a very pretty picture of the relevant data!
  by Sky at 3/28/2011 5:22:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:22:58 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:22:58 PM
• Stephanie gitti ditti whatever - her too
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:22:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:22:22 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:22:22 PM
• @Dean LTNS! Where is that decay chart you posted a few days ago? I've been hunting high and low. @Ralph Busted!
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 5:22:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:22:06 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:22:06 PM
• LOL Karen I saw the same thing.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:21:47 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:21:47 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:21:47 PM
• and today .. the tepco webcam looks so normal ....
  by elalak at 3/28/2011 5:21:09 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:21:09 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:21:09 PM
• @Marie: Don't feel bad. Tony didn't like me... :-( Honestly, I read him the riot act. There were so many people from Japan on that thread looking for info at the time too. He would come on shift and the feed would grind to a halt. I didn't care if he didn't okay my posts, but I felt bad for the people who relied on the source. I understand that it could be perceived as grunt work. Hey, I wouldn't want to filter through all the stuff either.
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 5:21:04 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:21:04 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:21:04 PM
• Dr Gale says there were no genetic abnormalities from chernobyl! There were at least three posts on reuters from people who said there were kids in school with no arms, etc.
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:20:53 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:20:53 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:20:53 PM
• enenews.com
  by elalak at 3/28/2011 5:20:41 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:20:41 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:20:41 PM
• www.lbl.gov I thought this may be handy... hi every one .. I woke up from my rest and thought I'd stop in .... RALPH.. I really like when you are on by the way... HE HE ..
  by dean at 3/28/2011 5:20:23 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:20:23 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:20:23 PM
• @Marie Same here. My relevant comments complete with links were often consigned to the hinterlands. I was convinced a couple Reuters mods had it in foe me
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 5:19:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:19:35 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:19:35 PM
• TY Marie, most of my posts to Reuters are passed. I think of that is an endorsement. I try to not go off the wall.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:18:54 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:18:54 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:18:54 PM
• @Patrick Well, I guess we know what they are doing with the basement water, despite official reports. It's unfortunate that fish can't read.
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 5:17:47 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:17:47 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:17:47 PM
• Nah, we all love you Ralph. I sure felt that way about some of the moderators on reuters. I wondered if I was Banned
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:16:34 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:16:34 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:16:34 PM
• A nuclear medicine expert who was part of the medical relief effort after Chernobyl says the situation in Japan is nowhere near as dangerous to human
  www.abc.net.au
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 5:16:26 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:16:26 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:16:26 PM

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• Am I being snarky ? Dean is never here when I am. I might not be as charming, but we go to the same sources. He has much more background then I do, so he should be comfortable with me online as well as I am a noob to nuclear questions. My only talent is looking up things on the net.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:14:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:14:58 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:14:58 PM
• @Bev I'm flattered but I think that was just me :) Here's a pretty good article lewis.armscontrolwonk.com
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:13:16 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:13:16 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:13:16 PM
• @Hank And increased pressure. I can't remember who it was, but one of the nuclear experts recently said "watch the pressure in #1."
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 5:12:14 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:12:14 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:12:14 PM
• Radioactive water removal underway, fresh seawater pollution found - Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
  by Patrick Kelley at 3/28/2011 5:12:05 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:12:05 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:12:05 PM
• Well, I just did the rounds. Nothing new
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 5:07:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:07:10 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:07:10 PM
• by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 5:03:30 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:03:30 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:03:30 PM
• And now from our dearest most ever popular Head Honcho Doctor an interlude
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 5:03:11 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:03:11 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:03:11 PM
• @Bev "a +"
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 5:02:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:02:02 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:02:02 PM
• @Mary If they do, it confirms their original position. Without active moderation the ratio of chatter to relevant discussion is high. It took me an hour to figure out what had happened today, the "noise" level was too high. I had to really dig to find the facts.
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 5:01:15 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:01:15 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:01:15 PM
• @Karen Warren Why me ???......I hate everyone :-O
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:59:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:59:59 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:59:59 PM
• @Bev - They were two different samples. No I-134 was detected in #1 but was detected in #2 (initially, then gone). No Cl-38 was detected in #2 but was detected in #1. There has been no official change to the #1 sample that I'm aware of, and it would certainly explain the current reheating of #1.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:59:47 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:59:47 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:59:47 PM
• Not officially , I had links to Reuters reporters that made replies to my comments, gone now.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:59:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:59:10 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:59:10 PM
• @Hank I can't offer any clarification on the 138Cl measurement. It looks like TEPCO forgot to scrub it when they scrubbed Cs138. And I think that's been the most frustrating thing about this "accident", the omission of data has made it very difficult to quantify harmful effects and sequence of events.
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 4:57:41 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:57:41 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:57:41 PM
• And don't you think sometimes that Reuters is looking in on this live blog??
  by MaryW at 3/28/2011 4:57:16 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:57:16 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:57:16 PM
• OoOps I meant blog.scribblelive.com
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:56:51 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:56:51 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:56:51 PM
• @Hank you gonna be right. www.scribd.com
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:54:50 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:54:50 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:54:50 PM
• www.tepco.co.jp
  by Sky at 3/28/2011 4:53:36 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:53:36 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:53:36 PM
• @Ralph - I predicted on the Reuters blog when they closed it that it'd be reopened in 3 days. That was 2.5 days ago. I think I'm damn close to the money.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:53:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:53:35 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:53:35 PM
• The webcam looks so ... normal ...
  by Sky at 3/28/2011 4:53:33 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:53:33 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:53:33 PM
• @Veen: I think that you should befriend Mike D Ypsidelic and ask him to join us... :)
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:53:20 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:53:20 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:53:20 PM
• @Ralph Unger Let's hope it doesn't get any worse than it already is.
  by Natalie at 3/28/2011 4:53:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:53:06 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:53:06 PM
• I hate to say this, but I think this will be like the BP disaster, Big interest and then little interest as the disaster unfolds. And that is when the real disaster happens.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:52:28 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:52:28 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:52:28 PM
• I love good satire.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:48:45 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:48:45 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:48:45 PM
• Ahem, for those on FaceCrook, on the IAEA site, last post.there is a DR Strangelove tearing it up........juuust for fun
  www.facebook.com
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:47:42 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:47:42 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:47:42 PM
• And I think VeenOui's post indicates that fission is the likely culprit in #1's temp rise.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:45:27 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:45:27 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:45:27 PM
• @Bev - Cl-38. Radioactive chlorine. It has a half-life in the minutes and is only created by fission. It was listed as detected in the water from the turbine room of #1. It was never specifically retracted like #2. I haven't seen any further sample results, so I don't know whether it's real or not.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:44:40 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:44:40 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:44:40 PM
• Good point Hank, I consider it to be a loss of control of the core that leads to uncontrolled reactions.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:44:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:44:08 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:44:08 PM
• CNNInternatDesk International Desk
  by BreakingNews
  The temperature is rising inside the No. 1 nuclear reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:43:48 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:43:48 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:43:48 PM
• @Ralph - I think the term "meltdown" is the source of confusion. A meltdown (the true definition) is a mass of corium breaching all containers and hitting dirt. It's really the media's fault. It should be referred to a core melting, either full or partial.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:42:57 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:42:57 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:42:57 PM
• @Hank Ah! Which are we referring to specifically?
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 4:42:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:42:44 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:42:44 PM
• @Bev - Lol, thank you for that.
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 4:42:39 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:42:39 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:42:39 PM
• @Patrick: There was a Chemistry class this afternoon. I cut, lol. Xenon in No. Korea. Another 6.1 and tsunami warning (later lifted). Edano is attempting to come clean. Everyone expect TEPCO to find the plutonium... I could go on, but I'll spare you... :-)
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:41:54 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:41:54 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:41:54 PM
• @Lethbridgean I didn't say their children weren't born with six eyes and two tails. :-) Plutonium is incredibly toxic. But I found the results of the Manhattan Project participants interesting to say the least.
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 4:41:43 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:41:43 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:41:43 PM
• Not as I have heard from anyone reliable Pat.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:41:27 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:41:27 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:41:27 PM
• @Bev - The isotopes Jojo refers to can only be created through fission, not through decay.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:41:03 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:41:03 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:41:03 PM
• Maybe "temporary" is a translation for some other word like "transitory" or a verb tense in Japan that expresses a past action that is no longer continuing. I'm just speculating here.
  by Sky at 3/28/2011 4:40:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:40:59 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:40:59 PM
• "There is not 0% chance of criticality" again? *sigh*
  by Patrick Kelley at 3/28/2011 4:40:47 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:40:47 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:40:47 PM
• @Pat I am a little bit pregnant? It's BS, a meltdown is a one time event. It can happen again but once it has happened, it has happened.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:40:23 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:40:23 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:40:23 PM
• I tend to think they meant it's not continuing. Not that it's not. Just that's what I think was meant.
  by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:39:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:39:58 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:39:58 PM
• @JoJo lol, that's pretty ridiculous
  by Patrick Kelley at 3/28/2011 4:39:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:39:58 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:39:58 PM
• @Jojo - They're either lying or inept. I'm going with inept.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:39:52 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:39:52 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:39:52 PM
• @jojo Some of the measured, short half-life isotopes are created by the decay of other isotopes, not necessarily a product of fission, but of decay.
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 4:39:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:39:49 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:39:49 PM
• @Patrick Kelley Still present Patrick.....jokes were made due to temporary situation statements...that's about it :-)
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:39:33 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:39:33 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:39:33 PM
• @Patrick Kelley According to Reuters Edano is implying in happened right after the power went out and hasn't happened since.
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 4:39:19 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:39:19 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:39:19 PM
• After you read all that stuff at allthingsnuclear.org , then ask questions here.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:38:38 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:38:38 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:38:38 PM

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• @Bev- I guess we will see what happens to a larger "study group".....
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 4:38:21 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:38:21 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:38:21 PM
• I see "meltdown temporary" on kyodo, is this in present tense or past tense?
  by Patrick Kelley at 3/28/2011 4:38:21 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:38:21 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:38:21 PM
• TEPCO admitted partial meltdowns, oddly called them temporary.
  by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:38:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:38:10 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:38:10 PM
• They just wait you out, don't they? NO news, no updates- I keep checking...bah
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:37:52 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:37:52 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:37:52 PM
• @you Specifically isotopes with a half-life of a few hours they measured yesterday. How is that possible?
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 4:37:51 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:37:51 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:37:51 PM
• Old link but..
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:36:51 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:36:51 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:36:51 PM
• @Marie: I saw that UN piece earlier. Sure, add more beauracracy to the mix. That's the ticket... :-)
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:36:36 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:36:36 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:36:36 PM
• Check out allthingsnuclear.org
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:36:29 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:36:29 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:36:29 PM
• @all hey everyone, looks like I missed a bit, wanna give me the skinny?
  by Patrick Kelley at 3/28/2011 4:36:15 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:36:15 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:36:15 PM
• @Tenzing Yeah yeah... ;)
  by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:35:57 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:35:57 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:35:57 PM
• LOL @ Tenzing - How do you know someone's a Mac user? Don't worry. They'll tell you. :D
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:35:43 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:35:43 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:35:43 PM
• www.reuters.com Can someone do a smell test on this? Specifically: "His comments suggested there was no crack in the containment vessel in reactor No. 2, as some had feared, and he was not suggesting that there had been a fresh meltdown." How are they getting isotopes in the contaminated water of only a few hours if this meltdown was over a week ago?
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 4:35:07 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:35:07 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:35:07 PM
• Sorry Hank , I have been posting here from the start, so that is a lot of old posts.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:35:04 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:35:04 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:35:04 PM
• OK, this is it right here "This is far beyond what one nation can handle - it needs to be bumped up to the U.N. Security Council. In my humble opinion, this is more important than the Libya no fly zone." www.reuters.com its called community. Now I'm shutting down my Mac and studying, honest.
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 4:34:34 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:34:34 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:34:34 PM
• @radioguy- I am sure we haven't.
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 4:34:00 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:34:00 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:34:00 PM
• @Ralph - Context is everything. Sorry. :)
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:33:51 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:33:51 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:33:51 PM
• @Lethbridgean Not necessarily, 26 men "accidentally ingested" plutonium during the Manhattan Project. They were followed closely for negative health effects. After 4 decades, only one had died of cancer. Inhalation is thought to be far more dangerous. atomicinsights.com
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 4:33:12 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:33:12 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:33:12 PM
• A casual glance at my earlier posts says that I agree with you Hank. :-)
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:32:57 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:32:57 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:32:57 PM
• @Karen - It'll be a couple of decades before thorium makes economic sense. Right now, uranium is too inexpensive for anyone but India to consider it due to the high startup costs.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:32:18 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:32:18 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:32:18 PM
• @Ralph - It's not over. ;)
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:31:05 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:31:05 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:31:05 PM
• @Apollo sleep well
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:30:38 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:30:38 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:30:38 PM
• Reuters has an article with quote from Prof. saying U.N. should take over! www.reuters.com
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:30:19 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:30:19 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:30:19 PM
• @all. Must sleep. I hope some good news transpires in the coming 8 hours (this would certainly constitute a change of pace).
  by Apollo at 3/28/2011 4:30:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:30:10 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:30:10 PM
• Everyone step back and look. 4 reactors involved, non as bad a Chernobyl. But most half as bad.Nothing is idiot -proof as idiots are so damn clever.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:29:29 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:29:29 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:29:29 PM
• @Apollo: I knew that I was missing a dot or a link, lol. I get a little antsy with the mention of its name.... live in Nevada (Vegas).
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:28:45 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:28:45 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:28:45 PM
• "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.” Albert Einstein Night all, see you in the morning...
  by JPH at 3/28/2011 4:28:27 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:28:27 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:28:27 PM
• @Karen: I made a comment about convening the world's top scientists to replicate Los Alamos/The Manhattan Project, only for the purpose of creating non-dangerous forms of energy. I mentioned New Mexico but Tenzing suggested Yucca Mountain. It was a bit of wit on her part.
  by Apollo at 3/28/2011 4:27:12 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:27:12 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:27:12 PM
• @Lethbridgean And I'm not certain we've seen the last of the BP spill either.
  by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:27:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:27:08 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:27:08 PM
• Safe nuclear - Thorium (not an opinion, just a reference :-) www.telegraph.co.uk
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:26:57 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:26:57 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:26:57 PM
• @Marie Thank you for the link. It's good to hear TEPCO address the Pu144 question in soil. It still doesn't address the amount in the basement waters of the reactors. I noticed they scrubbed one report clean and "reissued" it after an unfortunate employee forgot to remove Cs138 from the spreadsheet prior to publishing.
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 4:26:28 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:26:28 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:26:28 PM
• @marie rich: I can't believe they downplayed the risks of plutonium, one particle ingested means certain death, so yeah, I guess that would be a long long time.
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 4:25:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:25:49 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:25:49 PM
• by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:25:39 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:25:39 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:25:39 PM
• 
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  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:25:32 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:25:32 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:25:32 PM
• @Apollo: I do not get the Yucca Mtn. reference. ???
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:23:47 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:23:47 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:23:47 PM
• @Apollo I got that. My Father often looked me in the eye and said "haste makes waste" and "have you read every book in every library" I guess my point is breathe in breathe out relax - joyful effort - cause and effect.
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 4:23:46 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:23:46 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:23:46 PM
• @Tenzing: I am inspired by Hanuman. Since we are primates, let us aspire to being heroic ones . . .
  by Apollo at 3/28/2011 4:23:31 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:23:31 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:23:31 PM
• @Tenzing: My last comment was in reference to Yucca Mtn, I do like your Ghandi quote, also.
  by Apollo at 3/28/2011 4:20:57 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:20:57 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:20:57 PM
• @Bev here's what they had to say abou testing for Pu www3.nhk.or.jp
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:20:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:20:49 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:20:49 PM
• @Pat- what makes you think that the cows aren't radioactive? The ones in the Ukraine are still glowing. :(
  by Meretisa at 3/28/2011 4:20:39 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:20:39 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:20:39 PM
• @marie rich thank you. now I'm going to study I have a Kinesiology final exam on wednesday and I haven't studied in 3 days, oops!
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 4:20:34 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:20:34 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:20:34 PM
• walk. OOps
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 4:20:28 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:20:28 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:20:28 PM
• @Ralph Unger: -walkThats what I was trying to tell my overly optimistic wife about. This is going to go on for way too long, will make the BP gulf of Mexico spill look like a cake
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 4:19:41 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:19:41 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:19:41 PM
• @Tenzing: Maybe so! Inanycase, the scientists at the YM facility should feel like they are working atop a mountain of fuel rods. A sense of urgency is required (Urgency was an essential catalyst at Los Alamos----)
  by Apollo at 3/28/2011 4:18:52 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:18:52 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:18:52 PM
• @Ralph In order for storage pools maintenance to be successful, the fuel needs to be in a stable condition. We can say with certainty at this point, the fuel in reactors 1,2&3 are not.
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 4:18:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:18:44 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:18:44 PM
• 
  by Hank Scorpio via Lionsledbysheep at 3/28/2011 4:17:53 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:17:53 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:17:53 PM

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• @Tenzing Peace to you :)
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:17:20 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:17:20 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:17:20 PM
• This whole thing reminds me of the old ag school joke about the fat stock show steer the curious monkey and the corn cob.
  by DonnerT at 3/28/2011 4:17:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:17:02 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:17:02 PM
• Good nite
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 4:16:18 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:16:18 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:16:18 PM
• Now might be the time to listen to Hank's 'mood music' again:)
  by MaryW at 3/28/2011 4:16:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:16:08 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:16:08 PM
• @Pat not Pst, lol.
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:16:07 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:16:07 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:16:07 PM
• 
  by Tenzing via 4.bp.blogspot at 3/28/2011 4:16:01 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:16:01 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:16:01 PM
• @Pst: That is a disturbing story. What happened to the assist that the GoJ promised to people who were 'advised' to evacuate?
  by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:15:52 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:15:52 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:15:52 PM
• My research shows that 1-3 years are needed before "dry casket" storage is possible for the fuel rods,those stored and the old ones, That is how long this disaster might last. 1-3 years of storage pools maintenance first. And they cannot even do that today.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:15:50 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:15:50 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:15:50 PM
• @Marie Rich Excellent article, thank you for posting. @All I'm wondering why the spectometry of the possible radionuclides in TEPCO's reports is so narrow. If they are going to list relatively harmless (short half-life) elements, and state that they are below normal limits, where are the statements that other potential radionuclides are at or below normal limits? i.e Pu144
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 4:15:43 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:15:43 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:15:43 PM
• @Lethbridgean Defense contractors, energy companies are all around here, I try to avoid that stuff.
  by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 4:15:39 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:15:39 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:15:39 PM
• It's hampering the evacuation of people who feel obliged to stay to take care of their livestock. Ill drop a line to one of the animal groups to see if they can get some transport arranged. mdn.mainichi.jp
  by Pat at 3/28/2011 4:15:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:15:22 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:15:22 PM
• bfn, @George. Thanks!
  by alblee at 3/28/2011 4:14:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:14:06 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:14:06 PM
• mdn.mainichi.jp
  by Pat at 3/28/2011 4:13:24 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:13:24 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:13:24 PM
• @CaraBnr Sleep well
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:13:21 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:13:21 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:13:21 PM
• about those cows
  by Pat at 3/28/2011 4:13:16 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:13:16 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:13:16 PM
• @Apollo Mahatma Ghandi said "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated" perhaps we would benefit by reminding ourselves we are animals.
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 4:13:09 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:13:09 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:13:09 PM
• Nitey night
  by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 4:12:45 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:12:45 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:12:45 PM
• Couldn't link.
  by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 4:12:03 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:12:03 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:12:03 PM
• @Bobby1: Yes it is, just look at Google Earth to see the impact. Been offered many jobs for really big $, but I always refuse. I did my oil and gas thing up north in Rainbow Lake in the '90s. Never want to do anything that bad again not to mention worse.
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 4:11:53 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:11:53 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:11:53 PM
• @ marie rich
  by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 4:11:48 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:11:48 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:11:48 PM
• We been having really weird and windy weather, where i live it's sunshine 360 a yr pretty much..well the last week windy like a blow dryer and overcast.
  Now, this is the forecast for a west Coast Beach town
  Crazy temp roller coaster ride in Carlsbad, #NM next week. Mon high 89, Thu 72, next Sun 101
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:11:31 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:11:31 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:11:31 PM
• @Apollo Well, maybe thats what Yucca Mountain is destined for!
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 4:10:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:10:44 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:10:44 PM
• @George Gibb Nite George
  by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 4:09:30 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:09:30 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:09:30 PM
• @Tenzing: humans are indeed beautiful. Several of the most humane, wonderful, inspiring people I knew --and looked up to-- as a child invented the original bomb: Bacher (inventor of the trigger), *Feynman* (often referred to as GOD in Pasadena, CA), Sands (a UCS founder). I do think that human intelligence may ensure our destruction, however. We create things we can't control very well. Or well enough, anyway. Imagine a world where the greatest scientists of our time hole up in a remote new Mexico location until they've figured out a plentiful, non-dangerous energy source, e.g. "solar on steroids".
  by Apollo at 3/28/2011 4:09:26 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:09:26 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:09:26 PM
• @George Gibb Goodnight
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:09:24 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:09:24 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:09:24 PM
• @George Gibb Thank you for this George - rest well.
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 4:09:12 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:09:12 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:09:12 PM
• @Lethbridgean I'm sorry to hear that. It's no better in Canada than the US. I know the oil sands mining is a mega environmental disaster.
  by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 4:08:56 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:08:56 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:08:56 PM
• Nite all - i'll check back in a few before i turn in
  by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 4:08:55 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:08:55 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:08:55 PM
• You're right. I'm off topic. Apologies all. Just ranting. :)
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:08:38 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:08:38 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:08:38 PM
• Nite George.
  by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:08:28 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:08:28 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:08:28 PM
• @Hank, I will not even begin to post my thoughts about what you have said. Not the proper venue.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:08:15 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:08:15 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:08:15 PM
• @All I'm about to head to bed - Any new people who may want to join the discussion post a comment so I can auto-allow additional posts.
  by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 4:07:41 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:07:41 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:07:41 PM
• @Ralph Unger - Now imagine the removal of paper money society. We're already doing it with debit cards. People are paying for things with their cell phones. It will be fought against, but it will be pushed through as a security measure against "terrorism."
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:07:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:07:08 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:07:08 PM
• that Onion Link was histericle
  by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 4:06:43 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:06:43 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:06:43 PM
• @Diane be well and dream sweetly :)
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 4:06:42 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:06:42 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:06:42 PM
• @Bobby1: Just found out a few weeks ago that the crown(Alberta Government) sold off the rights to clear cut my old camping spot that was the most secluded place in southern Alberta. About 2 hour drive south of Banff National park
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 4:06:26 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:06:26 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:06:26 PM
• Good night everyone! Midnight our time...
  by Diane at 3/28/2011 4:06:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:06:06 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:06:06 PM
• sorry.. correct link www.atomicinsights.blogspot.com
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:05:24 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:05:24 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:05:24 PM
• @Ralph Unger It'd be funny if it wasn't true.
  by tippytoe at 3/28/2011 4:05:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:05:22 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:05:22 PM
• This is refreshing- an industry insider who admits he was too optimistic and things are'nt that good. www.nisa.meti.go.jp
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:04:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:04:22 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:04:22 PM
• @Tenzing Crater Lake still looks like it did when I first saw it in 1963. Amazing.
  by James Ward at 3/28/2011 4:04:20 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:04:20 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:04:20 PM
• @George Indeed, it is. I don't regret the investment. But I also don't expect any ROI.
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 4:04:12 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:04:12 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:04:12 PM
• @Ralph Unger CLASSIC Onion headline.
  by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:04:09 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:04:09 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:04:09 PM
• @Debra Beckham see it is a very small world. check this out for a twist in perspective apod.nasa.gov
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 4:03:37 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:03:37 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:03:37 PM
• www.theonion.com
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 4:03:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:03:02 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:03:02 PM

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• @Bev It's a step towards self reliance.
  by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 4:02:56 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:02:56 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:02:56 PM
• Solar PV is not cost effective yet, not even close. Last week I finished a complete PV system for our RV. 5k and we still can't run the A/C. Three cloudy days and we will be without lights. It's an expensive luxury, unfortunately.
  by Bev at 3/28/2011 4:02:11 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:02:11 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:02:11 PM
• @Lethbridgean I camped in a strip-mined area once, boy it was creepy. That alone feeling.
  by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 4:01:54 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:01:54 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:01:54 PM
• I see the future of the American police state as one in which our government uses technology to track us in a system from which we cannot escape except to live without any of the world's modern conveniences. I see dissent being very easy to control via the simple elimination of a person's digital profile. I see tyranny ahoy. Cheers. :)
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 4:01:07 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:01:07 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:01:07 PM
• My daddy is a nuclear physicist and I grew up listening to Tom Lehrer on our home made Heathkit stereo . . .
  by Apollo at 3/28/2011 4:00:41 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:00:41 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:00:41 PM
• @Natalie: OK I just had to post the Tom Lehrer song on my Facebook... it IS hilarious. Thanks!
  by Diane at 3/28/2011 4:00:38 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:00:38 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:00:38 PM
• @Cup: Sounds like you live in a cool place! I'm not sure it is possible on the world scale, but would like to hope so.
  by Diane at 3/28/2011 3:59:37 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:59:37 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:59:37 PM
• I stand corrected.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:59:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:59:22 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:59:22 PM
• @Cup - You're a half-full kinda guy, aintcha? :)
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 3:59:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:59:22 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:59:22 PM
• Yes he did Jojo.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:59:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:59:02 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:59:02 PM
• @Ralph Unger I'm < 50, didn't he do poisoning pigeons in the park?
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 3:58:43 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:58:43 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:58:43 PM
• @Ralph Unger I'm 22...
  by Natalie at 3/28/2011 3:58:41 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:58:41 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:58:41 PM
• @Cup I like the way you think =)
  by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:58:39 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:58:39 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:58:39 PM
• @Natalie - Tom Lehrer's song is hilarious. Thanks.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 3:58:20 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:58:20 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:58:20 PM
• LOL I called out someone few days ago about that song. does anyone under 50 even know of Tom Lehrer?
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:58:11 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:58:11 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:58:11 PM
• @Tenzing Ha, I thought that looked like Crater Lake..I am in Medford.
  by Debra Beckham at 3/28/2011 3:58:05 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:58:05 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:58:05 PM
• @Diane - We are not stuck as a civilization. At least, we don't have to be. All we have to do is to face up to some realities and start employing existing technologies in a much smarter way. A lot of it you can do yourself. For example, we found it easy to bring our electric power use down to 20% of the national average (per person in a household). We also found it financially attractive to invest in a solar PV system. It generates four times more power than we need ourselves. It helps to even out local grid load. It gives an excellent return on investment. Next step is an electric car. Energy independency at the household level is eminently possible. But also at the community level things are not at all bleak. Several towns in our area are investing in wind power and very soon will be largely self-sufficient in electric power. All this can be done. Don't let anyone tell you that it can't.
  by Cup at 3/28/2011 3:57:11 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:57:11 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:57:11 PM
• @Natalie - I'm a big fan of randomly screaming "MEIN FUHRER! I CAN WALK" in public. It's fun. :)
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 3:56:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:56:49 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:56:49 PM
• www3.nhk.or.jp
  by snickums at 3/28/2011 3:55:57 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:55:57 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:55:57 PM
• opps link didn't go through
  by snickums at 3/28/2011 3:55:47 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:55:47 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:55:47 PM
• @Hank Scorpio www.youtube.com I've seen strangelove. I managed to do a paper on atomic pop culture a couple years ago.
  by Natalie at 3/28/2011 3:55:41 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:55:41 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:55:41 PM
• MY apoligies
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:55:36 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:55:36 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:55:36 PM
• @Tenzig A wonderful picture! I like it very much, would be nice to just sit on the shore with a good book. What I don't understand is this though: "extra cellular matrix that connects every living organism". Sounds like woo to me, what do you mean.
  by Salvador at 3/28/2011 3:55:20 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:55:20 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:55:20 PM
• english.kyodonews.jp Radiation in the basement of #2 is > 1000 mSV /hour (2000, 3000, more?). Radiation in #3 is 400 mSv /hour. If the limit is 250 mSv / worker. That means each worker MAX can be in #2 15 minutes, and #3 38 minutes. I highly doubt they are adhering to these limits.
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 3:55:12 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:55:12 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:55:12 PM
• @Ralph Unger I'm a her silly.
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 3:55:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:55:06 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:55:06 PM
• www3.nhk.or.jp
  by snickums at 3/28/2011 3:54:40 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:54:40 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:54:40 PM
• JK.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:54:40 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:54:40 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:54:40 PM
• man dies in line for gas
  by snickums at 3/28/2011 3:54:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:54:35 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:54:35 PM
• @CaraBnr Crater Lake Oregon www.nps.gov
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 3:54:32 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:54:32 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:54:32 PM
• @Tenzing: beautiful. Trying to absorb some optimism))
  by Diane at 3/28/2011 3:54:31 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:54:31 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:54:31 PM
• If Tenzing means dumping the obnoxious cellular phones , I am with him!
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:54:30 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:54:30 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:54:30 PM
• @Natalie - I'm not familiar with that. Try this. www.youtube.com
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 3:54:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:54:10 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:54:10 PM
• @Tenzing Where is that?
  by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 3:53:38 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:53:38 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:53:38 PM
• @Hank Scorpio In some sick and twisted way, I'm not thinking of Tom Lehrer's "We Will All Go Together When We Go"
  by Natalie at 3/28/2011 3:53:04 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:53:04 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:53:04 PM
• @Bobby1: most conflicted time of my life because I loved the rockies, was really weird to see a mountain ripped down and a fake mountain go up next to it minus the coal with astroterf, spray painted greenery. The day I saw Elk feeding on it was what made me quit. Even with no job to go to, was better than that feeling in my gut.
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 3:53:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:53:02 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:53:02 PM
• 

  @Diane maybe if we look at that space between individual that extra cellular matrix that connects every living organism we can collectively effect changes, were doing it right now with every choice we make. Sometimes we can't see the forest for the trees. This lake is less than 70 miles from my front door maybe that has an effect on my perspective. planetoddity.com

  by Tenzing via Planetoddity at 3/28/2011 3:52:39 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:52:39 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:52:39 PM
• @Salvador: Gotcha...
  by Optim at 3/28/2011 3:52:28 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:52:28 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:52:28 PM
• Mountain Top Removal Link if you're interested www.hawriverfilms.com
  by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 3:52:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:52:10 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:52:10 PM
• The formal/conventional channels of information (pressers, announcements, briefings, etc) are starting to become stale deadbeats. We may have to keep sniffing out alternative yet credible sources (industry, technology, academe, middle mgmt moles that tap into the heart of Tepco) to keep the spark of meaningful information exchange alive. It's time to make it worthwhile to be a true-blue whistleblower. Dig into dirt to find the truffles if we have to.
  by alblee at 3/28/2011 3:51:37 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:51:37 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:51:37 PM

• - mood music for this thread.

  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 3:51:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:51:06 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:51:06 PM
• @Optim 'Yawn' I KNOW this. I actually refered to the earlier discussion of this here on the live blog.
  by Salvador at 3/28/2011 3:51:04 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:51:04 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:51:04 PM
• @Hank Scorpio: We're on the same page... who knows, though. Somebody might still be around in a thousand years to clean up the mess we've created, including randomly deposited plutonium and such.
  by Diane at 3/28/2011 3:50:20 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:50:20 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:50:20 PM
• @Lethbridgean I know it was hard to do but it is important to contribute if we can.
  by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 3:49:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:49:58 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:49:58 PM
• @Salvador: That is Reactor #4. IT was not operational at the time of earthquake so no problem. They say that in the video
  by Optim at 3/28/2011 3:49:37 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:49:37 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:49:37 PM
• Japan trying to remove highly radioactive water at troubled nuke plant, english.kyodonews.jp
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:49:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:49:02 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:49:02 PM

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• HEY our mini U.N. think-tank strikes again!
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:49:00 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:49:00 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:49:00 PM
• @Diane - And furthermore, I'd say it's causing us to devolve simply for the fact that modern society removes the function of survival of the fittest.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 3:48:46 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:48:46 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:48:46 PM
• @all Just saw a snippet from NHK and their expert said that our earlier thought was most likely correct: The yellow sphere from the nI Lew video is the upper lid of the containment vessel. www.youtube.com (2:18)
  by Salvador edited by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:48:16 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:48:16 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:48:16 PM
• @Diane - We as a species are not evolved enough to handle what we've created. Call me a luddite if you want, but I tend to think technology will not be our savior but our downfall.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 3:48:05 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:48:05 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:48:05 PM
• @Bobby1 Not to mention carbon dioxide and coal seam fires.
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:48:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:48:02 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:48:02 PM
• @Lethbridgean That's great. Mountaintop removal has not only destroyed peoples lives, it has destroyed some of the most beautiful wilderness areas in the world. The attack on the good earth we have inherited for the sake of profit is not only disgusting, but is threatening our species, not to say many many others.
  by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 3:47:13 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:47:13 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:47:13 PM
• There's a place in the midwest USA that has acres of cars with their front ends buried so that they're upright. Now, more than ever, they reminds me of tombstoness
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:46:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:46:49 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:46:49 PM
• @Diane I think we'll be ok. Humans, like all other organisms, are highly adaptable.
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 3:46:37 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:46:37 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:46:37 PM
• @marie rich @Tenzing @CaraBnr: The hardest thing was giving up the $. I make way less than I did, but sometimes ya have to look in the mirror.
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 3:46:26 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:46:26 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:46:26 PM
• New coal Mines in NE Australia may be shipping Coal through the Great Barrier reef
  by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 3:46:21 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:46:21 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:46:21 PM
• @Debra Beckham: Also the fact that fish population might increase in seas around northeast japan. Certainly noone will import fish from that part of japan. Even japanese folks might not eat that fish.
  by Optim at 3/28/2011 3:46:15 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:46:15 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:46:15 PM
• @Debra Beckham The only think that I can think of that makes me smile, even if it is a very selfish reason, is that this might make JET (Japanese Exchange Teaching; teaching English in Japan) easier to get in to in a few years.
  by Natalie at 3/28/2011 3:46:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:46:10 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:46:10 PM
• Not lookin ' good. Contact with the molten nuclear fuel or high concentration of water. www3.nhk.or.jp
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:46:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:46:06 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:46:06 PM
• @Hank Scorpio Let's not fly off the handle here. We need to calm down before taking such drastic action.
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 3:45:45 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:45:45 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:45:45 PM
• @Tenzing: I want to believe in the human potential, especially at the individual level. But I'm not sure we have what it takes to survive collectively with the things we have invented (case in point), that is, psychology cannot catch up to technology. I can talk about this for a long time ))
  by Diane at 3/28/2011 3:45:37 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:45:37 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:45:37 PM
• anyone seen Dean?
  by snickums at 3/28/2011 3:45:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:45:35 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:45:35 PM
• @borrrden Hi Borrrden (if you're still there), how are you doing? You're in Japan if I recall.
  by Jojo at 3/28/2011 3:44:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:44:59 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:44:59 PM
• The only thing that makes me "smile" about all that has happened in Japan is the thought of how many new reefs will be built out of all those cars laying at the bottom of the ocean.
  by Debra Beckham at 3/28/2011 3:44:41 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:44:41 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:44:41 PM
• To get a certain effect
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:44:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:44:22 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:44:22 PM
• Perhaps now Edano will solicit the UN to send a strongly worded letter to TEPCO.
  by Hank Scorpio at 3/28/2011 3:44:01 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:44:01 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:44:01 PM
• @Lethbridgean ditto @carbnr
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:43:51 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:43:51 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:43:51 PM
• @Lethbridgean Thank you.
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 3:43:45 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:43:45 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:43:45 PM
• @ Lethbridgean, GOOD fro YOU
  by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 3:43:13 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:43:13 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:43:13 PM
• There IS a place in this world for righteous anger...
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:42:37 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:42:37 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:42:37 PM
• @CaraBnr: I have worked as an Operator/Millwright in Oil and Gas, Mountain destroying Coal, and saw the evil of my ways, for the last 3 yrs I have worked for a company building the Hydrogen Fuel cell cars that are going to be on the market in 4years, Mercedes F-Cell has been a major project that I have been proud to be a part of. Thought my kids might be proud of me on day.
  by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 3:42:21 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:42:21 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:42:21 PM
• I'm glad you all liked the video. I think I'll keep finding things like that, just because I don't have any expertise in any of the subjects being discussed. So I can only give timid input and try not to sound too much like a college student in the liberal arts field.
  by Natalie at 3/28/2011 3:41:24 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:41:24 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:41:24 PM
• The people in Japan have an enormous amount of self control. But it comes at a cost. en.wikipedia.org
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:41:07 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:41:07 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:41:07 PM
• sorry am an ex cop used to the black humor :)
  by snickums at 3/28/2011 3:40:55 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:40:55 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:40:55 PM
• @VeenOui...ok, had to laugh..needed that.
  by karronna at 3/28/2011 3:40:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:40:49 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:40:49 PM
• @CaraBnr what face? oh, you mean that lump on my neck. Don't worry- it's stabilized.
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:40:46 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:40:46 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:40:46 PM
• @marie rich - Agreed. It IS comical sometimes..just feel bad for laughing...but guess the laugher is needed too .:)
  by karronna at 3/28/2011 3:40:04 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:40:04 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:40:04 PM
• The face of evolution may be changing rapidlt if things get worse I think
  by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 3:39:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:39:49 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:39:49 PM
• ROFL
  by snickums at 3/28/2011 3:39:24 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:39:24 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:39:24 PM
• @Tenzing
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:39:15 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:39:15 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:39:15 PM
• (Bill Clinton) I have not had a partial meltdown with that reactor ( Bill Clinton)
  Sorry........hadda do it...
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 3:39:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:39:08 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:39:08 PM
• @Diane We invented the wheel - aircraft - went to the moon and beyond a few times - and learned how to replace our internal organs. I'm pretty darn sure we can figure this out. Relativity speaking we are a rather young species. Evolution may be just beginning. I don't know but I believe in the human potential.
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 3:38:38 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:38:38 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:38:38 PM
• Yes, and they verbally reprimanded them for unsafe worker practices! ouch
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:37:50 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:37:50 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:37:50 PM
• I have to ask myself what on earth the Japanese are thinking, to have such news releases / press conferences.
  With every statement being made and translated by the media, it sounds more and more incompetent and how is anyone to even believe anything anymore?
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 3:37:21 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:37:21 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:37:21 PM
• I feel much better now that the government has ordred TEMPCO that this is unacceptable and cannot happen again. PHEW big relief LOL
  by snickums at 3/28/2011 3:36:57 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:36:57 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:36:57 PM
• Anybody's got closer access (friend, kin, kin of a friend, friend of a kin... heck, even the floormop person with a good set of ears or eyes) to the nuclear medical practice in Japan? Gleaning accurate insights about the medical conditions of those exposed to radiation plantside at Fukushima could indirectly illuminate a lot of things about the situation on the ground, methinks. Thanks.
  by alblee at 3/28/2011 3:36:45 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:36:45 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:36:45 PM
• I mean Coal.... Heard of mt top removal
  by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 3:36:20 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:36:20 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:36:20 PM
• I'm lost. NHK reports that "an increasing number of residents have reportedly returned to their homes in suburban areas surrounding the troubled Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant." However, the Yomiuri Shimbun states: Experts say govt should give more detail in designating evacuation zones. (...) The Yomiuri Shimbun calculated radiation doses based on data from the Fukushima prefectural government. These calculations were made under the premise a person was outdoors continually from March 14 to 4 p.m. March 24.
  
  The estimates showed a person would have absorbed 620 microsieverts of radiation in Minami-Soma, about 24 kilometers from the nuclear plant, over that period. But the number reached 4,000 microsieverts in Iitatemura, about 40 kilometers northwest of the troubled plant.
  
  Four thousand microsieverts far exceeds the 1,500 microsieverts an average person in Japan is exposed to naturally in a normal year.
  by Dom at 3/28/2011 3:36:19 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:36:19 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:36:19 PM
• @karronna oh c'mon, can't we crack just one or two jokes? To keep sane? Black irony is healthy! Is your room clean, son? There's no immediate threat to human life, mom.
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:36:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:36:10 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:36:10 PM
• not to mention cole
  by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 3:35:56 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:35:56 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:35:56 PM
• @Salvador For me the more I listen to those I don't understand the better I understand myself, just a thought.
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 3:34:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:34:49 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:34:49 PM

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• @Tenzing: I agree with you intuitively, but I'm not a big fan of the oil and gas industries, either. I feel we're stuck as a civilization, and honestly, don't see a way out in near to medium term future.
  by Diane at 3/28/2011 3:34:32 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:34:32 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:34:32 PM
• @ Tensing - BBC Viewpoint - An article not worthy of a scientist or a health professional. Although some of his statements are true, his message is untrue because of what he leaves out. His biggest sin is to downplay the role of alpha- and beta-emitters and the damage they can do when inhaled or ingested. He also doesn't mention that health studies into the effects of radiation exposure come to conclusions that are orders of magnitudes apart. Whatever the reasons for these discrepancies, they constitute a public health travesty. Urgent work on a scientific concensus, free from nuclear industry and military interference, is needed.
  by Cup at 3/28/2011 3:34:19 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:34:19 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:34:19 PM
• @Natalie Thanks, not seen before...overwhelming Video 1
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 3:34:00 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:34:00 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:34:00 PM
• @Tenzing 100% agree, nuclear power is not safe. The stakes are enormous. A foolhardy enterprise.
  by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 3:33:53 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:33:53 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:33:53 PM
• @Natalie wow! thanks for posting that vid, repost- www.youtube.com
  by kgriff at 3/28/2011 3:32:51 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:32:51 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:32:51 PM
• @quantman...been thinking for days the whole thing smacks of SNL type humor if it was a laughing matter...which of course it isn't.
  by karronna at 3/28/2011 3:32:39 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:32:39 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:32:39 PM
• @Tenzing The bbc comment is propaganda. He may be qualified to comment, but he is also extremly biased.
  by Salvador at 3/28/2011 3:31:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:31:35 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:31:35 PM
• @Diane I will state for the record I do not believe or think Nuclear Energy is safe or a rational form of generating power. I'm just putting the information out there so we can continue an unbiased forum. If I had my way each and every Nuclear Power Plant on the planet Earth with be dismantled entombed or what ever it takes to stop the madness. Thats my uneducated - simple minded - open hearted OPINION. I hope it doesn't offend anyone. No link available.
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 3:31:32 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:31:32 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:31:32 PM
• @quantman07: LOL keep going
  by Diane at 3/28/2011 3:29:37 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:29:37 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:29:37 PM
• @Scilla: They are all pretty close to each other, this is just a different collection point. I believe the spokesperson mentioned it is coming from one of the four "troubled" reactors. Very helpful!
  by Diane at 3/28/2011 3:27:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:27:49 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:27:49 PM
• SNL should a skit with Edano, NISA and TEPCO. I'll write the script. It will be hilarious. If things were not deadly serious for millions of people, I'd really suggest this, but I'm only being sarcastic. A certain effect was noticed, but there is no immediate threat of a becoming a joke, Mr. Edano-san!
  by quantman07 at 3/28/2011 3:27:47 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:27:47 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:27:47 PM
• @Tenzing: It does provide a different perspective. I got an impression that the author may have an agenda, though, or at least he's on a narrow academic crusade. It is true that we should not demonize normal (background) radiation or panic at slightest increases, but today's situation is completely different...
  by Diane at 3/28/2011 3:25:14 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:25:14 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:25:14 PM
• this can't be right, can it? It's taking about reactors 5 and 6,. www.smh.com.au
  by Scilla at 3/28/2011 3:25:11 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:25:11 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:25:11 PM
• @Ralph Unger You are very welcome Mr. Unger :)
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 3:25:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:25:02 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:25:02 PM
• The reason Edano says the partial meltdown in temporary, is probably because they made an error. Soon, I expect them to say they need to analyze the data again, do more tests. They could then say later tonight that Tepco made a mistake and there was no partial meltdown, just a full meltdown!
  by quantman07 at 3/28/2011 3:24:07 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:24:07 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:24:07 PM
• @Diane Exactly, the translation is absurd.
  by Salvador at 3/28/2011 3:22:05 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:22:05 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:22:05 PM
• BBC Viewpoint: We sould stop running away from radiation. by Wade Allison University of Oxford www.bbc.co.uk
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 3:21:07 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:21:07 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:21:07 PM
• They keep calling the meltdown "temporary"... I have this amazing mental image of melted reactor core becoming whole again )))
  by Diane at 3/28/2011 3:21:03 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:21:03 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:21:03 PM
• www.jaif.or.jp
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:20:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:20:06 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:20:06 PM
• TY Tenzing. news is a good thing :-)
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:19:14 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:19:14 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:19:14 PM
• feed://atomicpowerreview.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 3:18:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:18:35 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:18:35 PM
• Fukushima Accident Sources
  Here is a list of sources consulted/quoted during the Fukushima Daiichi accident coverage:
  
  "The Safety of Nuclear Power Reactors (light water-cooled) and Related Facilities." United States Atomic Energy Commission report WASH-1250, July 1973. This is an unpublished draft report.
  
  "Calculation of Distance Factors for Power and Test Reactor Sites." Unites States Atomic Energy Commission document TID-14844, March 1962.
  
  "Current Status & Future Technical & Economic Potential of Light Water Reactors." United States Atomic Energy Commission report WASH-1082, March 1968.
  
  "Boiling Water Reactors." Andrew W. Kramer, Argonne National Laboratory - published under contract with the United States Atomic Energy Commission 1958. (Presented by the United States of America at the Geneva 1958 conference.)
  
  "The Atomic Energy Deskbook." John F. Hogerton, 1963. Sponsored by the United States Atomic Energy Commission.
  
  "The Second Nuclear Era." (sub. "A New Start for Nuclear Power") Weinberg/Spiewak/Barkenbus/Livingston/Phung/Manning (all of Oak Ridge Associated Universities) Praeger Special Studies - Praeger Scientific 1985.
  
  ..also consulted are various press materials and photographs in the APRA collection. atomicpowerreview.blogspot.com
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 3:17:45 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:17:45 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:17:45 PM
• NISA update, morning of 3/28 in Japan
  It's the morning of the 28th in Japan, and NISA (Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency) has just given another briefing. The able Hidehiko Nishiyama, always the morning briefing point man for NISA, gave the particulars. We were hoping to stall long enough to get the copy of the documents that accompany this briefing, but they're not available yet so in order to remain timely we'll run what we have... which in all likelihood won't be contradicted by anything in the briefing papers.
  
  We still read them anyway.
  
  Details given this morning: In general, applicable to all three reactor plants which were at power when the quake hit; all will eventually be changed from having fresh water injected to the cores by fire trucks (pumper trucks) as they are now to electric pumps. The fire trucks need to be refueled fairly often, and this arrangement is not necessarily the best. Electric pumps for each plant will be placed in a temporary arrangement, powered by diesel generators. To ensure total separation of the plants, and any event at any one plant, every plant will have its own dedicated portable diesel generator and fresh water pump.
  
  In terms of specific plants, it was deemed a top priority to achieve this setup on No. 2 plant first and this was done at 6:30 PM Tokyo time on the 27th. This plant is still being injected with fresh water containing boric acid. (Nishiyama's exact words were "we're injecting fresh water and we need boric acid on this plant" or something like that.)
  
  Now, to plant specific details and analysis...
  
  No. 1 plant's reactor pressure vessel temperatures are rising again, and fresh water injection rate will be adjusted upward to correct for this. (Last time I saw a new number the feed nozzle temperature was about 204C.) This plant should get its electric water pump and diesel generator on the 29th. TEPCO has added two more fire pumps to the one working the turbine building basement water pool which has developed in order to get this contaminated water into the condenser hotwell.
  
  At No. 2 and No. 3 plants, the condenser hotwells are already full or very nearly so and this water -- which isn't contaminated so far as we know now -- might be simply pumped outside or to sea in order to get the hotwells empty to make room for the water in the basements. Nishiyama's remarks, though, leave some opening as to the plan for No. 3 plant since he indicated they're still deciding what to do with that water.
  
  The cyclical nature of watering the various spent fuel pools, now using the concrete pumper truck and various 'water cannon' vehicles continues as needed, albeit with fresh water now.
  
  We'll be looking for the NISA and TEPCO documents to appear fairly soon, and likely some JAIF status charts a bit later.
  atomicpowerreview.blogspot.com
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 3:16:11 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:16:11 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:16:11 PM
• @Diane I believe that is what I heard too.
  by gabe at 3/28/2011 3:16:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:16:08 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:16:08 PM
• 

  Map of nuclear plants yowusa.com

  by kgriff via Yowusa at 3/28/2011 3:15:57 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:15:57 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:15:57 PM
• If there is a lot of heat still being generated, concrete and sand etc, is useless. They have to cool it down first. Or the heat will just break to covering.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:14:55 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:14:55 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:14:55 PM
• Just heard on NHK that the agriculture minister said they are conducting soil tests and may need to expand the evacuation zone. Wonder if the translation was correct, since just before that he was talking about farm products. Anyone else heard this?
  by Diane at 3/28/2011 3:14:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:14:35 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:14:35 PM
• Here is another tsunami video but with a little more kick www.gizmodo.com.au
  by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 3:13:56 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:13:56 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:13:56 PM
• On kyodo.
  by Scilla at 3/28/2011 3:13:39 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:13:39 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:13:39 PM
• Tepco has some new alerts - water in no. 2 due to partial meltdown, temporary.
  by Scilla at 3/28/2011 3:13:20 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:13:20 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:13:20 PM
• @all 5:10 PM Eastern Slunday 3/27/2011 "We will have to wait for further details. Serious core damage, given the new data? Of course. Core melt? Partial melt, very very likely. Full melt, hard to say. Failure of reactor vessel, or a bottom end penetration (for instruments or control rods) or near the support flange by melting? Possible. Primary containment (drywell and suppression chamber) failure? Virtually assured, and TEPCO is saying just exactly that." atomicpowerreview.blogspot.com
  by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 3:13:09 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:13:09 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:13:09 PM
• @VeenOui @George Gibb Yes, thanks for that. What I wanted add was the nature of the sarcophagus, such as how long it took to make (7 months+) and that it has large holes in it.
  by kgriff at 3/28/2011 3:12:54 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:12:54 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:12:54 PM
• @Natalie, that footage of the tsunami was incredible! Thank you for posting it.
  by Debra Beckham at 3/28/2011 3:12:52 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:12:52 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:12:52 PM
• So, they have admitted that there was a partial meltdown in #2 reactor and that the containment is in fact leaking, either gas or water. That's no surprise.
  by Salvador at 3/28/2011 3:12:32 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:12:32 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:12:32 PM
• @RadioGuy in a earthquake/tsunami prone area
  by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:12:03 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:12:03 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:12:03 PM
• @George Gibb And it's at sea level.
  by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 3:11:13 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:11:13 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:11:13 PM
• @Natalie That was an incredible video.
  by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:10:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:10:49 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:10:49 PM
• Steam can be invisible, I have put too much weight on the steam levels seen in the morning , cool air causes them to be more visible.
  by Ralph Unger at 3/28/2011 3:10:46 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:10:46 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:10:46 PM
• @kgriff I read a story the other day about issues with maintenance of the building and who is going to pay etc. Yet the site needs to be maintain longer than the pyramids - goodluck with that
  by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:10:40 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:10:40 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:10:40 PM
• 

  @kgriff blog.kievukraine.info

  by VeenOui via Blog.kievukraine.info at 3/28/2011 3:09:36 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:09:36 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:09:36 PM
• Time for me to go...'night all
  by pj at 3/28/2011 3:08:00 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:08:00 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:08:00 PM
• @George Gibb Definitely agree
  by pj at 3/28/2011 3:07:46 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:07:46 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:07:46 PM
• 

  fukashima @ noon monday pointscope01.jp

  by kgriff via Pointscope01.jp at 3/28/2011 3:07:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:07:44 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:07:44 PM
• Ok thanks guys..than it's all good as usual......
  by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 3:07:23 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:07:23 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:07:23 PM
• @pj that has been acknowledged but stabilizing and dismantle seems to be the goal. like I said the alternates are not pretty
  by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:07:23 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:07:23 AM" ) )Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:07:23 PM

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