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@Matsuoko Possible, but the levels should be much higher, no?

by vasra at 3/28/2011 5:12:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:12:28 PM" ) ) Monday, March 28, 2011 11:12 AM
@Matsuoko So what would be the conditions to allow fission to happen? Thanks.

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:12:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:12:22 PM" ) )11:12 AM yesterday
@All One of the main reasons for continuing this forum was to allow people to express their opinions. If we don't talk and share much will be lost!

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 5:12:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:12:17 PM" ) )11:12 AM yesterday
OT: I have to ask and I'm sorry for going off-topic. Has anyone here been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome?

by Maureen Burke at 3/28/2011 5:11:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:11:58 PM" ) )11:11 AM yesterday
The web cam starts up @5am everyday

by d_news at 3/28/2011 5:11:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:11:40 PM" ) )11:11 AM yesterday
@Meretisa -- look, I have nothing against spirituality. But that is something nebulous, immeasurable, and unfalsifiable. Right now everyone is focused on the engineering and science - which is the exploration and explanation of hypotheses and theories which are by their nature falsifiable.

by Joshua Diamond at 3/28/2011 5:11:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:11:36 PM" ) )11:11 AM yesterday
by kgriff via Upload.wikimedia.org at 3/28/2011 5:11:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:11:25 PM" ) )11:11 AM yesterday
@Veen Thank you for clarifying webcam info, I missed all that. @Meretisa Nothing personal, but I don't think introducing religion or politics into the discussion is appropriate, and can lead (and usually does) to anger and/or hurt feelings. At best, it's a distraction, at worst will cause the forum to go fissile. :-)

by Bev at 3/28/2011 5:11:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:11:07 PM" ) )11:11 AM yesterday
@Jojo : i mean, Pu240 is not in mox rods, and it is not in any decay line. it must be produced by fission. it could mean that there is a fission in spent fuel pool #3.

by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 5:11:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:11:06 PM" ) )11:11 AM yesterday
Alright, i just looked at the TEPCO cam and YES, it is the same picture as before and time stamped the same @10009 hours, so it is turned off..my bad

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 5:10:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:10:02 PM" ) )11:10 AM yesterday
@Jojo That's what I see reading about. And when the experts are all over something like this, it pays to watch it closely.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 5:09:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:09:31 PM" ) )11:09 AM yesterday
@you *effects.

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:09:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:09:23 PM" ) )11:09 AM yesterday
@Matsuoko Those numbers do not seem high if it's in Bq/ kg compared to some of the other concentrations. Even so, isn't this a concern for workers given the long-half life and cancerous affects?

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:08:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:08:56 PM" ) )11:08 AM yesterday
Parts per trillion in Uranium ore.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 5:07:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:07:40 PM" ) )11:07 AM yesterday
@Meretisa A LOT of people are freaked out about it. You know who are freaked out the most? THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW THE MOST ABOUT THE INDUSTRY. You have to also realize that there are LOTS of people interested in minimizing this story: TEPCO, GoJ, IAEA, and most of the news media for various reasons. Many on this board are actively trying to minimize it, they are not impartial. Many on this baord are not impartial the other way either (anti-nuclear).

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:07:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:07:36 PM" ) )11:07 AM yesterday
@Karen Warren Well said. Sometimes you need to unplug, but it is really hard to do with something of this import on the "back burner".

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 5:07:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:07:33 PM" ) )11:07 AM yesterday
@Karen Warren I know. I'm trying. still... I keep getting pulled back- usually when there is new info coming out (oddly enough). Thank you. @All Again I'm sorry about my flip. I'll try to contain better.

by Meretisa at 3/28/2011 5:07:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:07:30 PM" ) )11:07 AM yesterday
@Jojo : i have problems with Pu240. as far as i know, this is a fission product.

by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 5:07:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:07:22 PM" ) )11:07 AM yesterday
@Karen Warren I think KAREN should be banned, she is here too much :-P

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 5:07:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:07:18 PM" ) )11:07 AM yesterday
@NHK Listener I think I understand what you mean by drama but I'd like you to consider a little compassion, were all human.

by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 5:07:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:07:15 PM" ) )11:07 AM yesterday
"Trace amounts of at least two plutonium isotopes (plutonium-239 and 244) can be found in nature. Small traces of plutonium-239, a few parts per trillion, and its decay products are naturally found in some concentrated ores of uranium,..." Miner, William N.; Schonfeld, Fred W. (1968). "Plutonium". In Clifford A. Hampel (editor). The Encyclopedia of the Chemical Elements. New York (NY): Reinhold Book Corporation. pp. 540–546. LCCN 68-29938.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 5:06:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:06:38 PM" ) )11:06 AM yesterday
@Meretisa: Maybe, you need to walk away for awhile. I say this with a pure heart. My stress levels were really high on Saturday. Take care of 'yourself' because this is going to go on for a long time, unfortunately. There is nothing that any of us can do but sit and watch in horror.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 5:06:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:06:24 PM" ) )11:06 AM yesterday
@Meretisa I don't think that experience is pariah material at all. My partner and I were woken out of a deep sleep and couldn't go back to sleep. That quake shifted the earth 4 inches on its axis. It's completely in the realm of believability that on some level you could pick that up.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 5:05:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:05:59 PM" ) )11:05 AM yesterday
@radioguy TEPCO Source: 1) Pu-238 (5.4+-0.62) x 10^-1 & Pu-239,Pu-240 (2.7+-0.42)x10^-1
TEPCO Source: 2) Pu-239,Pu-240 (2.6+-0.58)x10^-1
TEPCO Source: 3) Pu-239,Pu-240 1.2+-0.12
TEPCO Source: 4) Pu-239,Pu-240 1.2+-0.11
TEPCO Source: 5) Pu-238 (1.8+-0.33) x 10^-1 & Pu-239,Pu-240 (1.9+-0.34)x10^-1 Those kinds of numbers are in background soil?

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:05:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:05:40 PM" ) )11:05 AM yesterday
@all... sigh. sorry for the flip out. I'm just sensitive I guess. It was hard to share that experience and then get shot down about it later. I'm sorry. I've also been very ill every since (unable to eat nearly anything for like 10+ days) and very obsessed about all this. I'm sorry I flipped. I'm just upset and sick and I felt like I was losing my connection to reality here. The rest of the world seems to be ignoring this and it is driving me nuts. HUGS. Sorry to freak.

by Meretisa at 3/28/2011 5:05:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:05:32 PM" ) )11:05 AM yesterday
No drama Please

by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 5:05:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:05:20 PM" ) )11:05 AM yesterday
Lets remember what this is about, not us but rather Japan - 11,004 deaths 17,339 missing and a nuclear site out of control.

by kgriff at 3/28/2011 5:05:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:05:01 PM" ) )11:05 AM yesterday
@Meretisa this is from my heart: breathe in breathe out relax - sometimes when the scientist are running on overdrive with calculations they are impatient so what I do is sit back and listen/read. There is room here for all perspectives in my opinion and I'm glad you have access to a Shaman - Healer - Medicine Person - Guide :)

by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 5:04:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:04:54 PM" ) )11:04 AM yesterday
IAEA Briefing on Fukushima Nuclear Accident (28 March 2011, 14:30 UTC) www.facebook.com!/notes/international-atomic-energy-agency-iaea/iaea-briefing-on-fukushima-nuclear-accident-28-march-2011-1430-utc/205450472818080

by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 5:04:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:04:41 PM" ) )11:04 AM yesterday
@All Round up of todays news articles pinned

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 5:04:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:04:33 PM" ) )11:04 AM yesterday
it's night in Japan so it is unlikely anything will happen now. Will get back later in the night (EST). Meretisa can explain more of her spiritual experiences then

by Optim at 3/28/2011 5:04:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:04:20 PM" ) )11:04 AM yesterday
@Meretisa You can't take this to heart, everyone is in their own investigative world here.....it's hard to follow or get answers at times....but if you really want to talk , at night time 12 Midnight USA time, it is quiet here....

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 5:04:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:04:02 PM" ) )11:04 AM yesterday
@Meretisa I'm sorry Meretisa, your comment escaped my notice. I personally do not have any problem with your spirituality. it's similar to mine. In response to if they are going home to die, I don't know.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 5:03:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:03:55 PM" ) )11:03 AM yesterday
@Meretisa I missed all the drama. What happened? Why are you so upset?

by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 5:03:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:03:26 PM" ) )11:03 AM yesterday
@Meretisa You're welcome here, I'm sure.

by es at 3/28/2011 5:03:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:03:13 PM" ) )11:03 AM yesterday
@Meretisa I haven't answered because the questions you have asked don't have any answers. I'm not one to speculate.

by Patrick Kelley at 3/28/2011 5:03:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:03:09 PM" ) )11:03 AM yesterday
@Meretisa I've enjoyed hearing from you!

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 5:02:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:02:40 PM" ) )11:02 AM yesterday
I think that line about the 50's testing was meant to imply that the readings aren't significantly above background soil Pu from that old testing. "Most of it might not even be our plutonium."

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 5:02:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:02:30 PM" ) )11:02 AM yesterday
@Meretisa I'm pretty new here myself, but I'll respond to you.

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:01:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:01:56 PM" ) )11:01 AM yesterday
get a grip, girl.

by Sky at 3/28/2011 5:01:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:01:50 PM" ) )11:01 AM yesterday
is anyone going to comment on ANYTHING I say anymore or should I just leave as has been suggested? I know the shaman thing was a bit "odd", but it was relevant to the conversation that was taking place at the time (which also included astrology). After I spoke, no one has commented on anything I say and much irritation has been voiced about the "shaman thing"... also it's been said I have no credibility anymore. I am hurt by all this. I don't know where else to go. I feel abandoned and everyone in my world here thinks I'm nuts and should be medicated. Why are you holding my personal experience (which is corroborated by the spikes in radiation on those days BTW) against me? I'm sorry to rant, but I am just beside myself. This was the only place I had and I feel like I'm being shut out. (OK rant over- flame away or ignore)

by Meretisa at 3/28/2011 5:00:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:00:50 PM" ) )11:00 AM yesterday
@Jim Carver Yep.

by es at 3/28/2011 5:00:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:00:39 PM" ) )11:00 AM yesterday
@es those were the days we had no information. Didn't the media say something about a holiday for Japan, something to do with cherry blossoms or vernal equonix?

by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 5:00:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:00:18 PM" ) )11:00 AM yesterday
@Sin Yeah, but they don't do nuke testing a few miles from towns/cities!

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 5:00:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 5:00:12 PM" ) )11:00 AM yesterday
@Jojo Re the CNN report - I think the spin is that the Pu levels are no higher than Japan has already experinced as a result of nuclear bomb testing.

by es at 3/28/2011 4:59:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:59:56 PM" ) )10:59 AM yesterday

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@VeenOui The timestamp on the image is still 19:01:01

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:59:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:59:50 PM" ) )10:59 AM yesterday
@Karen Warren GoJ needs to freakin' nationalize this in the interest of public safety. They need to get expert opinions from around the world, TEPCO are a bunch of morons. Are they going to paen this off on TEPCO while Pu is found OUTSIDE the reactors? It's in the air, water, ...

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 4:59:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:59:23 PM" ) )10:59 AM yesterday
According to the TEPCO conf, the Pu samples were taken on March 21st and March 22nd - over a week ago.

by es at 3/28/2011 4:58:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:58:25 PM" ) )10:58 AM yesterday
Listening to katz on kyodnews, and he is translating TEPCO as saying that the plutonium samples were taken a week ago, and that when other countries have done nuclear testing that amounts of plutonium detected then were greater than what what just disclosed. So, no need for alarm.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 4:58:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:58:20 PM" ) )10:58 AM yesterday
The problem is, the ocean is used by all of us. What happens when we find more sea water affected with Cesium, or even Plutonium? Ocean is vast, but it could pollute local Japanese fishing spots for centuries if the kelp gets irradiated.

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 4:58:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:58:02 PM" ) )10:58 AM yesterday
@Bev That was always my thought. The timestamp doesn't change.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:57:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:57:36 PM" ) )10:57 AM yesterday
Did anyone take a close look at the pixelization of that image? The edges tell me that it's artifact because it's smooth. If it were a 'glow,' the edges of the 'dot' would demonstrate scatter.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:57:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:57:30 PM" ) )10:57 AM yesterday
"No immediate impact on human health" - i.e. it will take several hours.

by Jay77 at 3/28/2011 4:56:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:56:05 PM" ) )10:56 AM yesterday
@JoJo: Think about the dynamics in play here. GoJ is holding TEPCO totally responsible to relieve itself of any LIABILITY. Very 'unfriendly' fire between the two plus the PM is a newbee. Add in the cultural component - which is strange to all of us. Very difficult and tragic lesson for the Japanese people who place their faith in the govt.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:55:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:55:55 PM" ) )10:55 AM yesterday
@George Gibb Thanks for posting the "Daily news links" at the top! Huge help for those of us stopping in periodically. Well done!

by Jay77 at 3/28/2011 4:55:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:55:50 PM" ) )10:55 AM yesterday
@Bev No they obviously do not shut down thee Web Cams, we just looked at a Collage of shots including night and saw on different days a glow around the building.
It got side tracked by what kind of Cam isbeing used, that's all

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:55:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:55:46 PM" ) )10:55 AM yesterday
@Jojo Yes. This has been looking like one long, drawn-out "grandma's on the roof", but a lot of people's safety depends on some level of timely openness about the dangers.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:55:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:55:39 PM" ) )10:55 AM yesterday
@es Unknown in no. 3 probably means that they can't get close enough to measure it.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 4:55:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:55:27 PM" ) )10:55 AM yesterday
@sin @marie rich @sky UGH! I hit delete ;( ok. this is an HD version of the same video. check out 1.21 follow the broken steam venting pipe to the tower (T) what are the rust colored objects in a vertical position from ground to steam venting pipe? the second link is to a video that has something to do with Green smoke? 1) www.youtube.com 2) www.youtube.com sorry that took so long

by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 4:55:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:55:25 PM" ) )10:55 AM yesterday
"The operator of the nuclear complex said that the plutonium is believed to have been discharged from nuclear fuel at the plant, which was damaged by the devastating March 11 earthquake and tsunami.

While noting that the concentration level does not pose a risk to human health" Really? How about we put that soil in your backyard where your kids play, TEPCO CEO. Sounds good to you?

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 4:55:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:55:12 PM" ) )10:55 AM yesterday
@All Did I miss something with regard to the webcam? Isn't it 2 a.m. in Japan? Doesn't TEPCO shut down webcam from 7p.m. to 5a.m.?

by Bev at 3/28/2011 4:53:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:53:38 PM" ) )10:53 AM yesterday
@Bev I just saw a CNN reporter talk about the Pu, and he was basically saying that TEPCO didn't admit it was "their" plutonium. The CNN reporter was speculating on air that maybe this Pu was naturally occurring. Seriously, TEPCO needs to be smacked hard for this, this isn't a freakin' game.

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 4:53:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:53:37 PM" ) )10:53 AM yesterday
@borrrden on hannaford www.spiegel.de

by kgriff at 3/28/2011 4:51:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:51:53 PM" ) )10:51 AM yesterday
english.kyodonews.jp "The operator of the nuclear complex said that the plutonium is believed to have been discharged from nuclear fuel at the plant, which was damaged by the devastating March 11 earthquake and tsunami.

While noting that the concentration level does not pose a risk to human health," This is what I'm talking about. Plutonium does not POSE A RISK TO HUMAN HEALTH?????

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 4:51:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:51:50 PM" ) )10:51 AM yesterday
@Jojo No IMMEDIATE hazard to human health. You forgot TEPCO's favorite buzzword. @All Pu238,239,240 being found now could have come from any one of the CV's or spent fuel pools. All are a product of fission, Ur or Pu. Notice Pu239 is highly fissionable, but I don't know what that means with regard to soil contamination.

by Bev at 3/28/2011 4:51:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:51:10 PM" ) )10:51 AM yesterday
@all you probably know already, but Tepco has added an appendix with mobile unit readings which are a better snapshot on the plants atmospheric readings. www.tepco.co.jp

by gabe at 3/28/2011 4:50:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:50:34 PM" ) )10:50 AM yesterday
@Karen Warren It's more out of frustration than humor. I frankly am tired of the minimization of this from TEPCO and the GoJ. It sickens me.

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 4:50:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:50:20 PM" ) )10:50 AM yesterday
According to the latest TEPCO conference the trenches are fairly full:
Unit 1 trench contains 3000m3 of water - relatively low level radiation
Unit 2 trench contains 6200m3 of water - highly contaminated
Unit 3 trench contains 4200m3 of water - unknown level of radiation

by es at 3/28/2011 4:50:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:50:00 PM" ) )10:50 AM yesterday
@Joshua Diamond I am not qualified enough to make this kind of assumption..Having sold and myself installed Surveillance equipment Camera's with night vision, I can only say that even with 480 res, it wasn't possible to capture that kind of distance without absolute grainy image and i had 24FPS "RT" AC Powered....so to me a battery powered device just doesn't seem plausable.
Either way, this doesn't make any difference as to the guessing what that glow is.

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:49:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:49:53 PM" ) )10:49 AM yesterday
Jokes, not cool.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:49:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:49:43 PM" ) )10:49 AM yesterday
@borrrden And in other news..... love it.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:49:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:49:41 PM" ) )10:49 AM yesterday
@Jojo LOL :) Pretty grim though.

by vasra at 3/28/2011 4:48:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:48:27 PM" ) )10:48 AM yesterday
@Matsuoko errr, meant to write "no access to trench water, DUE to rubble"

by vasra at 3/28/2011 4:47:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:47:50 PM" ) )10:47 AM yesterday
3 workers were decapitated when a steel beam fell from a height inside the reactor building. TEPCO reports that the workers were discharged from the hospital and the decapitation will not affect their health.

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 4:47:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:47:32 PM" ) )10:47 AM yesterday
This is the webcam we're watching at the site. 1.bp.blogspot.com

by radioguy via 1.bp.blogspot at 3/28/2011 4:47:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:47:17 PM" ) )10:47 AM yesterday
www3.nhk.or.jp do you think they are going home to die? It is very odd that the government would allow them to go home. Why would they allow this?

by Meretisa at 3/28/2011 4:47:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:47:14 PM" ) )10:47 AM yesterday
@Matsuoko They could not measure trench water surface radiation under reactor/turbine hall #3, because no access to rubble. #1 trench water radiation was very low level. #2 was the very high measurement

by vasra at 3/28/2011 4:47:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:47:07 PM" ) )10:47 AM yesterday
@marie rich "correlates with spike from unit 3" -- if it was night time, and you saw a radiation spike in the monitor, wouldn't the first thing you might do be to shine a light around the building to see if there are additional steam emissions?

by Joshua Diamond at 3/28/2011 4:46:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:46:29 PM" ) )10:46 AM yesterday
@fitter this is better (HD) footage of the same flight over the Fukushima Plant No. 1 in this video pause at 6.22 look at the big disconnected pipe then follow it left to the rust colored objects (?) that seem to be leaning (vertical) from the ground up to the (horizontal) broken pipe. I hope that made sense. I've linked another video I found, something about green smoke? My German is, well it doesn't exist so maybe someone else can translate. 1. www.youtube.com 2. www.youtube.com

by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 4:46:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:46:26 PM" ) )10:46 AM yesterday
@All Roundup of news articles for today pinned.

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 4:46:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:46:21 PM" ) )10:46 AM yesterday
And in other news, the sun has turned into a red giant several billion years early, engulfing the entire Earth....

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 4:45:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:45:37 PM" ) )10:45 AM yesterday
@Jojo - not harmful to human health, everything else on the planet will die in one week

by openmind at 3/28/2011 4:45:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:45:09 PM" ) )10:45 AM yesterday
@Tenzig That pipe was connecting the reactors 3 and 4 to the steam venting pipes, which are the tower looking structures with scaffolding in the middle. It is visibly damaged and disconnected from reactor #4, so it would have to be coming from #3.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 4:45:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:45:03 PM" ) )10:45 AM yesterday
@Matsuoko
TEPCO Source: 1) Pu-238 (5.4+-0.62) x 10^-1 & Pu-239,Pu-240 (2.7+-0.42)x10^-1
TEPCO Source: 2) Pu-239,Pu-240 (2.6+-0.58)x10^-1
TEPCO Source: 3) Pu-239,Pu-240 1.2+-0.12
TEPCO Source: 4) Pu-239,Pu-240 1.2+-0.11
TEPCO Source: 5) Pu-238 (1.8+-0.33) x 10^-1 & Pu-239,Pu-240 (1.9+-0.34)x10^-1

by vasra at 3/28/2011 4:44:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:44:56 PM" ) )10:44 AM yesterday
@Jojo :) I heard that too, and it is already in California.

by gabe at 3/28/2011 4:44:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:44:33 PM" ) )10:44 AM yesterday
Duh - Darn Nukes! www.thestar.com

by ddave at 3/28/2011 4:44:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:44:11 PM" ) )10:44 AM yesterday
did they say anything about what plutonium nuclide ? and where do they think it comes from ? it cannot travel from inside #3 reactor vessel. SFP #3 ?

by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 4:43:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:43:39 PM" ) )10:43 AM yesterday
Kyodo news reports Workers exposed to 1000000 degree temperatures inside the reactor, bitten by at least 100 cobra snakes, and a full-scale nuclear blast equal to 1000 Hiroshima-size nuclear bombs. TEPCO says that this exposure will not be harmful to their health, however.

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 4:42:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:42:56 PM" ) )10:42 AM yesterday
Folks, I've looked at enough 'images' to safely conclude that it's an artifact.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:41:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:41:11 PM" ) )10:41 AM yesterday
@All didn't mean to throw out red herring vis webcam. I just nmotice anamolies and try to correlate.. IMportant stuff is the plutonium, I'd guess.

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:40:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:40:49 PM" ) )10:40 AM yesterday

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Katz is giving some info in English re the lastest TEPCO press conf which just finished: yokosonews.com

by es at 3/28/2011 4:40:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:40:16 PM" ) )10:40 AM yesterday
This "While noting that the concentration level does not pose a risk to human health, the utility firm said it will strengthen monitoring on the environment in and around the nuclear plant." (Kyodo News) combined with this: "“It is very likely that within 20 kilometers from the plant is contaminated and there is a big risk (to human health) at the moment,” Yukio Edano, top government spokesman, told a news conference. He said residents should not enter the evacuation zone until after the government gives them the go ahead." (Majirox news) is what I find particularly troubling.

by kaykod at 3/28/2011 4:40:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:40:16 PM" ) )10:40 AM yesterday
@Joshua Diamond I wonder if it is pink like this one www.au.kddi.com

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 4:39:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:39:29 PM" ) )10:39 AM yesterday
@Maureen Burke i see it

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:38:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:38:37 PM" ) )10:38 AM yesterday
It's at the 1min.47sec. mark on the video Tenzing posted.

by Maureen Burke at 3/28/2011 4:37:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:37:49 PM" ) )10:37 AM yesterday
@tenzing very interestin video. any thoughts?

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:37:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:37:29 PM" ) )10:37 AM yesterday
@VeenOui yep. Go to www.tepco.co.jp right click on the image, and save the .jpg. Then look at the EXIF info on the image. Device make: KDDI-TS (Toshiba) / Device model: W53T.

by Joshua Diamond at 3/28/2011 4:37:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:37:13 PM" ) )10:37 AM yesterday
@billmcd Thanks Bill. I've been using them.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:37:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:37:03 PM" ) )10:37 AM yesterday
english.kyodonews.jp

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 4:37:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:37:00 PM" ) )10:37 AM yesterday
@radioguy But it is intermittent. doesn't show up on the 25MAr

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:36:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:36:58 PM" ) )10:36 AM yesterday
@Maureen Burke No, I was referring to the yellowish haze that has been reported more than once in different locations, including Fukushima. Out of context, my fault.

by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 4:36:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:36:40 PM" ) )10:36 AM yesterday
@Matsuoko np - Its just I step away from time to time and the comment may stay in moderation till i get back.

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 4:36:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:36:40 PM" ) )10:36 AM yesterday
they found plutonium ? any link, please ?

by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 4:36:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:36:34 PM" ) )10:36 AM yesterday
One other possibility to consider on the webcam image is that the digital imageing chip has sustained some sort of damage and every remaining shot that's low light will show that. We'll see.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:36:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:36:12 PM" ) )10:36 AM yesterday
@Joshua Diamond Ido not think it chernenko glow,, but maybe heat signature or some kind of lumiesence- you can see neon lights even on a cheap camera. and oddly it correlates with spike from unit 3 graphed on unicamp pin above (for temp. at least)

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:36:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:36:07 PM" ) )10:36 AM yesterday
11,004 deaths 17,339 missing en.wikipedia.org

by kgriff at 3/28/2011 4:35:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:35:52 PM" ) )10:35 AM yesterday
@radioguy@pedro jesus- I'm not referring to a general haze but a concentrated release of orange-brown smoke at, what seems to be, fairly high pressure. Is that what you are referring to also?

by Maureen Burke at 3/28/2011 4:35:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:35:28 PM" ) )10:35 AM yesterday
@Lethbridgean good job lol

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 4:35:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:35:23 PM" ) )10:35 AM yesterday
my IP changes every night ...

by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 4:35:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:35:22 PM" ) )10:35 AM yesterday
@NHK Listener It is 1:35 AM in Japan...I don't think there will be any for a while :-S.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 4:35:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:35:18 PM" ) )10:35 AM yesterday
i can't read the print, but every drawing/doc helps piece things together... the last grafic of plant shows the "trench" can't make sence out of it yet but helps.

by fitter at 3/28/2011 4:35:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:35:08 PM" ) )10:35 AM yesterday
@George Gibb - I've had to ban myself though.

by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 4:35:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:35:07 PM" ) )10:35 AM yesterday
Odd still no new NISA reports out yet

by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 4:34:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:34:47 PM" ) )10:34 AM yesterday
Just a reminder. I have a lot of links at oldbooks.net

by billmcd at 3/28/2011 4:34:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:34:44 PM" ) )10:34 AM yesterday
@George Gibb I am moving tomorrow, so starting then I will have a new IP address! Thanks in advance ^^.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 4:34:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:34:42 PM" ) )10:34 AM yesterday
@George Gibb : by IP ?

by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 4:34:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:34:37 PM" ) )10:34 AM yesterday
@Matsuoko It appears that I have to auto-allow regular people from time to time. I do not censor comments and luckily have yet to ban anyone.

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 4:33:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:33:55 PM" ) )10:33 AM yesterday
@Joshua Diamond Yes, that particular color was in a pushed-brightness image, so an color value is an artifact at that point.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:33:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:33:49 PM" ) )10:33 AM yesterday
@Joshua Diamond Sorry i don't recall you, A cellphonme Cam ?.REALLY ??.pleeeeeze

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:33:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:33:43 PM" ) )10:33 AM yesterday
I would imagine that the pollen would contribute to contaminate paticle disbursement.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 4:33:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:33:38 PM" ) )10:33 AM yesterday
@Dean - welcome back.

by Joshua Diamond at 3/28/2011 4:32:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:32:49 PM" ) )10:32 AM yesterday
@borrrden That's believable. That is only 1/2 decay per second per 1000 g. Not much.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 4:32:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:32:47 PM" ) )10:32 AM yesterday
@Dean, cut the Small Talk man...the DIRT, nothing but the Dirt.....you hear me .....lol

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:32:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:32:32 PM" ) )10:32 AM yesterday
@Maureen Burke I see that from the pines on the hill every year this time.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:32:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:32:27 PM" ) )10:32 AM yesterday
@ALL - please remember that this webcam is actually a cheapo cell phone with a camera (KDDI W53T). We are not talking about a fancy low-noise camera here! Chances are the camera can't focus or expose correctly in low light. That could be a star in the distance, reflected light, or just thermal noise in the sensor. The chances of this piece of crap webcam seeing cherenkov glow is somewhere between nill and none.

by Joshua Diamond at 3/28/2011 4:32:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:32:13 PM" ) )10:32 AM yesterday
@Dean Hello, glad to see you back.

by kgriff at 3/28/2011 4:31:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:31:55 PM" ) )10:31 AM yesterday
@tinzig give me a hint at what part of utube frame that you are looking at (is 147 correct)

by fitter at 3/28/2011 4:31:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:31:49 PM" ) )10:31 AM yesterday
On the plus side, there's a mutant variety of shark in the Bikini Atoll area that has an extra fin, and Japan is close to China where shark fin soup is still regarded as a delicacy. I fully expect to hear it brought up in a news conference.

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 4:31:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:31:46 PM" ) )10:31 AM yesterday
@Pedro Jesus This year is also supposed to be a terrible year for pollen allergies as well!

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 4:31:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:31:33 PM" ) )10:31 AM yesterday
what happening here ? i wrote a dozen posts, they censor everything !

by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 4:31:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:31:16 PM" ) )10:31 AM yesterday
@Maureen Burke That has been confirmed by different sources as being a natural phenomena very common in this time of the year in Japan. The orange-yellowish taint of the wind is caused by suspended pollen.

by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 4:30:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:30:56 PM" ) )10:30 AM yesterday
@All round up of daily news articles pinned

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 4:30:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:30:47 PM" ) )10:30 AM yesterday
@Matsuoko No, it's there. What it is, is open to speculation.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:30:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:30:35 PM" ) )10:30 AM yesterday
Hello Dean!

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 4:30:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:30:11 PM" ) )10:30 AM yesterday
Hey too

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:30:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:30:01 PM" ) )10:30 AM yesterday

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U.N. atom agency calls nuclear safety summit
uk.reuters.com

by d_news at 3/28/2011 4:29:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:29:59 PM" ) )10:29 AM yesterday
Her Dean

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:29:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:29:57 PM" ) )10:29 AM yesterday
hi all

by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 4:29:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:29:55 PM" ) )10:29 AM yesterday
the glowing cannot be denied.

by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 4:29:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:29:52 PM" ) )10:29 AM yesterday
hi there

by Dean at 3/28/2011 4:29:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:29:48 PM" ) )10:29 AM yesterday
There is an interesting sentence in the NHK article (in Japanese) that I am trying to wrap my head around. If I'm reading it right it says "The level that was found (0.54 bq / kg) is about the same as the amount in normal Japanese soil and the level that was deposited from the domestic nuclear bomb tests in the past."

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 4:29:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:29:46 PM" ) )10:29 AM yesterday
by radioguy via I1087.photobucket at 3/28/2011 4:29:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:29:29 PM" ) )10:29 AM yesterday
Good question -- need to check historical wind-vs.-time to understand that.

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 4:29:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:29:25 PM" ) )10:29 AM yesterday
i1087.photobucket.com

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:29:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:29:17 PM" ) )10:29 AM yesterday
@markfm: would that correspond to the debris from the hydrogen explosion from r#3 in first few days?

by elise at 3/28/2011 4:28:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:28:14 PM" ) )10:28 AM yesterday
@tenzing- Great video...The orange-ish smoke? I don't know what that is- just that it's not steam.

by Maureen Burke at 3/28/2011 4:28:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:28:05 PM" ) )10:28 AM yesterday
Story about a body found containing high levels radiation. www.majiroxnews.com

by Stormy at 3/28/2011 4:27:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:27:30 PM" ) )10:27 AM yesterday
@marie rich Gotcha, I went through it all and saw your markings.
It is clearly Visible to me at least, that the Night Pictures are capable of capturing lights from Ships and planes / Helicopters.......and that the facility is definetly NOT always light up and the Light itself is not the same "and i would expect this" as bright as the others especially sine it should be reflecting but than again it might be behind buildings.
So we may have possible could have, likely a ........."drumroll".light.........

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:26:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:26:27 PM" ) )10:26 AM yesterday
@Pedro Jesus Don't think so.

by es at 3/28/2011 4:26:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:26:00 PM" ) )10:26 AM yesterday
@radioguy wind direction or slope, at a guess

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:25:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:25:36 PM" ) )10:25 AM yesterday
Amazing to read in the Japan Times that the PM's Cabinet approval ratings have risen 8%.

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 4:25:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:25:06 PM" ) )10:25 AM yesterday
@ All: xkcd.com helps to make sense of the ratiation levels - very useful! (Note: There are 8765.8 hrs. in one year).

by T&M at 3/28/2011 4:24:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:24:27 PM" ) )10:24 AM yesterday
@vasra good stuff, that diagram

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:24:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:24:09 PM" ) )10:24 AM yesterday
Is there any live translation available for that news conference on ustream.tv?

by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 4:23:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:23:52 PM" ) )10:23 AM yesterday
@radioguy The building at the top is the solid waste storage center (固体廃棄物貯蔵庫)

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 4:22:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:22:46 PM" ) )10:22 AM yesterday
Tepco as always perfect...

by john at 3/28/2011 4:21:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:21:40 PM" ) )10:21 AM yesterday
Did the line ru8n to the northwest, which seems to have been the predominant direction of general contamination so far? (those MP 31, 32, 33 sites)

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 4:21:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:21:06 PM" ) )10:21 AM yesterday
Reuters video update uk.reuters.com

by kgriff at 3/28/2011 4:20:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:20:36 PM" ) )10:20 AM yesterday
@Markfm Very good!

by es at 3/28/2011 4:20:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:20:03 PM" ) )10:20 AM yesterday
@Markfm Excatly!

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:19:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:19:52 PM" ) )10:19 AM yesterday
Do you suppose that line was chosen for wind direction?

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:19:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:19:37 PM" ) )10:19 AM yesterday
@Markfm LOL

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:19:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:19:23 PM" ) )10:19 AM yesterday
OK... 3 three are along that black line. Road or sampling line? one by that building to the south of R5. What's that other building?

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:18:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:18:56 PM" ) )10:18 AM yesterday
@VeenOui 21Mar at 5:oo am, 24Mar at 1900pm on this youtube it's at minute 5:22 and at minutes 7:19 and 7:20. www.youtube.com

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:18:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:18:55 PM" ) )10:18 AM yesterday
So, in PR-ese, "TEPCO was 100% successful in checking for plutonium."

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 4:18:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:18:51 PM" ) )10:18 AM yesterday
@radioguy Yes

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 4:18:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:18:19 PM" ) )10:18 AM yesterday
3 locations 500m from reactors, one 750m and one 1000m, the start point appear to be reactor no 1

by john at 3/28/2011 4:18:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:18:09 PM" ) )10:18 AM yesterday
@borrrden Five total?

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:17:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:17:49 PM" ) )10:17 AM yesterday
My neck hurts from looking at these pictures.....couldn't the uploader have rotated them? -___- Anyway, it was five locations that they sampled.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 4:16:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:16:51 PM" ) )10:16 AM yesterday
Diagram of the the Reactor/Turbine hall 2 trench and the high radio active water issue : i51.tinypic.com

by vasra via I51.tinypic at 3/28/2011 4:16:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:16:43 PM" ) )10:16 AM yesterday
@ marie rich it was posted here: plixi.com those are locations

by john via Plixi at 3/28/2011 4:16:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:16:04 PM" ) )10:16 AM yesterday
@marie rich That far left one looks like it's over by R5 & 6

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:15:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:15:48 PM" ) )10:15 AM yesterday
3*19 @5.00 seeing white light bottom right.still not the same

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:15:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:15:03 PM" ) )10:15 AM yesterday
I still want to know the all important fact that is unreported. 5 out of how many samples?

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:14:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:14:48 PM" ) )10:14 AM yesterday
www.mext.go.jp

by es at 3/28/2011 4:14:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:14:44 PM" ) )10:14 AM yesterday
@john thanks. i still want to know where the locations were vis a vis units

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:14:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:14:06 PM" ) )10:14 AM yesterday
I was just looking at it. I think the color is an artifact of the contrast push.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:13:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:13:48 PM" ) )10:13 AM yesterday
@all This is aerial footage from March 17, 2011 I'd like evaluations about what you see at minute 147. www.youtube.com

by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 4:13:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:13:33 PM" ) )10:13 AM yesterday
@Markfm Agreed...heat signature? some kind of luminesence? Idk

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:13:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:13:13 PM" ) )10:13 AM yesterday
Plutonium was in 5 of 5 locations, 239 and 240 in all locations and 238 in 2 locations

by john at 3/28/2011 4:12:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:12:32 PM" ) )10:12 AM yesterday

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I strongly doubt that stuff is Cerenkov radiation. If it was, to be visible on that cruddy webcam it would be a truly massive amount of energy.

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 4:12:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:12:29 PM" ) )10:12 AM yesterday
TEPCO press conference continues (Japanese only) www.ustream.tv

by es at 3/28/2011 4:12:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:12:17 PM" ) )10:12 AM yesterday
3-17 @ 5:00 i am seeing TWO white lights, not the same in complete darkness....

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:12:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:12:11 PM" ) )10:12 AM yesterday
@VeenOui It's NOT worklights, or it'd be there all the time. admittedly faint...like flouresence? some kind of luminescence. and here's the thing- check out on pin up top the data for unit 3 and notice when the spike in temp is..

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:12:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:12:02 PM" ) )10:12 AM yesterday
@vasra Th's a great pull someone did there too. What is that? It seems to have that characteristic Cherenkov blue glow, or is that an artifact?

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 4:11:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:11:40 PM" ) )10:11 AM yesterday
@Karen Warren added

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 4:10:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:10:16 PM" ) )10:10 AM yesterday
@VeenOui Check out 21Mar @ 5:oohr and 24Mar 19:00hr/5:00 hr. idk if it's imp. but it's why i've had the webcam fetish.. @SIN U THE BEST

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 4:09:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:09:41 PM" ) )10:09 AM yesterday
@Veen -- The tower lights would have a limited battery backup, and since the whole area is a restricted no-fly zone, restoration of ICAO AC warning lights would be way down in the list of priorities.

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 4:08:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:08:59 PM" ) )10:08 AM yesterday
Here is the link you are looking for Marie

by Sin at 3/28/2011 4:05:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:05:31 PM" ) )10:05 AM yesterday
www.hss.energy.gov

by Watching at 3/28/2011 4:03:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:03:58 PM" ) )10:03 AM yesterday
Details of Plutonium meassurements at plixi.com

by estacion via Plixi at 3/28/2011 4:03:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:03:52 PM" ) )10:03 AM yesterday
Here is a link to the human experiments of the Manhattan Projects. Various people were injected with plutonium around the country, although that fact was unkown to them. The report is from the Dept of Energy which wrote the report decades after the incidents. Anyway, it's a bit stomach churning to read, but maybe will add some information under the circumstances. I'm pretty familiar with this report because my grandfather was a scientist in the Manhattan project and my family grew up in Oak Ridge. We have some strange genetic issues. Anyway, the report can be found here:

by Watching at 3/28/2011 4:03:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:03:47 PM" ) )10:03 AM yesterday
Uhmm, i remember when i asked about that glow when i posted that picture questioning it..I THINK.doesn't matter, however, i never saw it when all black before......AND, normally all the Steam towers have lights on them for planes etc. right ?.So why arent we seeing them ever ?

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 4:03:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:03:46 PM" ) )10:03 AM yesterday
WolframAlpha Data for Pu-238, Pu-239, Pu-240 half-life, specific radioactivity and decay modes: www.wolframalpha.com

by vasra at 3/28/2011 4:01:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:01:23 PM" ) )10:01 AM yesterday
Did you guys see this? allthingsnuclear.org Perhaps this can help us understand the bad quality of information coming out.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 4:00:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:00:42 PM" ) )10:00 AM yesterday
@George: You might want to add this one to the list. Coverage is comprehensive. www.asahi.com

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 4:00:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:00:07 PM" ) )10:00 AM yesterday
@VeenOui Started doing image overlay, and found out somebody had already done it before on earlier days' photos : fukushima.wikispaces.com

by vasra at 3/28/2011 4:00:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:00:04 PM" ) )10:00 AM yesterday
@estacion Ah, thanks.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 4:00:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 4:00:03 PM" ) )10:00 AM yesterday
Ok, so in the meantime "i got 4hrs of sleep" .what does the Plutonium find now mean ? Raised level now to Chernobyl Status?......and if the core leaked "I assume this means it" than is there any hope to stop this without a Sarcopharg? "spelling" ??

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 3:59:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:59:42 PM" ) )9:59 AM yesterday
@Jim Carver units of plutonium meassurements Bq/kg

by estacion at 3/28/2011 3:59:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:59:30 PM" ) )9:59 AM yesterday
Plutonium (PU) is a concern in all Fukushima reactors. See en.wikipedia.org - read Overview section: MOX fuel assemblies start out with PU oxide in the Mix, whereas the other BWR reactors running on U-oxide accumulate PU in the fuel over their (approx) 3yr runtime. By the time the 'normal' U-fuel rods are finished and get placed in a spent fuel pool, they contain similar amounts of PU as fresh MOX fuel rods (and not just PU either). Which makes the spent fuel pools such a worry. The leakage continues and that is unstoppable for the time being. Even small levels of radiation - cumulatively and over time - will do damage to humans. Don't overlook those additional factors - it's time to extend the evacuation zone and well and truly time to inform the public.

by T&M at 3/28/2011 3:58:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:58:36 PM" ) )9:58 AM yesterday
I thought our consensus on that was it was most likely floodlights or work lights illuminating the outside of a building, barely detectable by the webcam?

by Sky at 3/28/2011 3:57:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:57:59 PM" ) )9:57 AM yesterday
I have to get to work.... otherwise, I'm might have to move in with one of you... :-) Catch you all later...

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 3:57:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:57:29 PM" ) )9:57 AM yesterday
@VeenOui No, You'd left. Trying to find youtube and will give you ralevant minute hashes. brb

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:56:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:56:45 PM" ) )9:56 AM yesterday
@VeenOui Almost did not catch that. Did you mean this (your webcam image save contrast changed and anomaly surrounded with red circle): i53.tinypic.com . It's very faint...

by vasra via I53.tinypic at 3/28/2011 3:56:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:56:20 PM" ) )9:56 AM yesterday
Ohh, i never saw a discussion of the BLACK photo's here..

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 3:55:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:55:54 PM" ) )9:55 AM yesterday
@veenOui, I saw this earlier when I checked the cam. I thought it was junk on my monitor screen! Hmm. Seems odd they would have just one light visible up that high.

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 3:55:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:55:32 PM" ) )9:55 AM yesterday
@borrden" That's the crux of the biscuit.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 3:54:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:54:50 PM" ) )9:54 AM yesterday
Union of Concerned Scientists live audio: www.ustream.tv

by es at 3/28/2011 3:54:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:54:46 PM" ) )9:54 AM yesterday
@VeenOui Heck no. There's a youtube video of all camera frames from t and there are two significant 'glows'. I sent a shout out for you last nite/earlie morn, but you were gone. Matsasouko looked at it. He saw it but we don't really know what it is or significance. Though we specuated

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:54:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:54:43 PM" ) )9:54 AM yesterday
@Jim Carver Yeah, it's absolutely silliness...the prime ministers' ratings are in the tank before they even have a chance to do anything.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:53:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:53:27 PM" ) )9:53 AM yesterday
Good catch veenOui... I've been ignoring the dark photos.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:53:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:53:08 PM" ) )9:53 AM yesterday
@borrrden I read that Kan was about to get outsed before this happened.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:52:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:52:25 PM" ) )9:52 AM yesterday
by VeenOui via Pointscope01.jp at 3/28/2011 3:52:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:52:05 PM" ) )9:52 AM yesterday
pointscope01.jp

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 3:51:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:51:45 PM" ) )9:51 AM yesterday
pointscope01.jp
NOTICE GLOW

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 3:51:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:51:36 PM" ) )9:51 AM yesterday
Hey all good morning.well.....morning i guess.I am posting the TEPCO WebCam picture
Which is completlely Black EXCEPT one glowing point...could be light but would be first time to see it ?

by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 3:51:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:51:16 PM" ) )9:51 AM yesterday
@Karen Warren Almost all Japanese prime ministers in the past decade have spent less than 2 years in office >_<

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:51:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:51:05 PM" ) )9:51 AM yesterday
But have no fear, monitoring will now be strengthened.

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 3:51:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:51:03 PM" ) )9:51 AM yesterday
@es K, it'll look that up. Prob micrograms.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:50:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:50:50 PM" ) )9:50 AM yesterday
Where in relation to the units was the testing done? I can't tell, and it's significant

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:50:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:50:43 PM" ) )9:50 AM yesterday
@Markfm That's my question. Only 5 samples and Pu in "at least 2 of them". 5 is at least 2.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:50:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:50:29 PM" ) )9:50 AM yesterday
If only 5 tested, then it looks like 5-of-5 had it.

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 3:50:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:50:27 PM" ) )9:50 AM yesterday
@borrrden I accept your hanaford site, and raise you hanaford sheep being fed radioactive food. upload.wikimedia.org

by kgriff via Upload.wikimedia.org at 3/28/2011 3:50:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:50:22 PM" ) )9:50 AM yesterday
@Jim Carver No further data

by es at 3/28/2011 3:49:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:49:54 PM" ) )9:49 AM yesterday

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@George: The JSDF numbered 239,430 in 2005[update] with 147,737 in the Ground Self-Defense Force, 44,327 in the Maritime Self-Defense Force, 45,517 in the Air Self-Defense Force, and 1,849 in the Joint Staff Office. Reserves numbered 57,899 en.wikipedia.org Another thing: Kan has been in office less than a year. I think that he's in over his head.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 3:49:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:49:46 PM" ) )9:49 AM yesterday
@Markfm The NHK article said out of 5 tested, at least 2 were positive.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:49:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:49:33 PM" ) )9:49 AM yesterday
es -- Did the conference say whether there were many more places tested, that only 5 found traces, or were there only 5 places checked (so 100% of tested sites were positive)

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 3:49:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:49:04 PM" ) )9:49 AM yesterday
@es units?

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:48:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:48:56 PM" ) )9:48 AM yesterday
NISA is saying that the fuel pellets themselves may have partially melted along with the rods in reactor 2 (sorry Japanese again) www3.nhk.or.jp

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:48:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:48:47 PM" ) )9:48 AM yesterday
Pu levels at Fukushima according to the TEPCO press conference which has just ended:

TEPCO Source: 1) Pu-238 (5.4+-0.62) x 10^-1 & Pu-239,Pu-240 (2.7+-0.42)x10^-1

TEPCO Source: 2) Pu-239,Pu-240 (2.6+-0.58)x10^-1

TEPCO Source: 3) Pu-239,Pu-240 1.2+-0.12

TEPCO Source: 4) Pu-239,Pu-240 1.2+-0.11

TEPCO Source: 5) Pu-238 (1.8+-0.33) x 10^-1 & Pu-239,Pu-240 (1.9+-0.34)x10^-1

by es at 3/28/2011 3:47:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:47:47 PM" ) )9:47 AM yesterday
can anybody tell which unit the test areas are?

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:47:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:47:22 PM" ) )9:47 AM yesterday
@borrrden "At least" two of them? Nice. Very scientific number in a finite quantity of samples.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:47:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:47:12 PM" ) )9:47 AM yesterday
Map of where the plutonium samples were found : plixi.com

by vasra via Plixi at 3/28/2011 3:46:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:46:23 PM" ) )9:46 AM yesterday
@borrrden Thing is, s**t happens, and it happens much easier around debris and in chaos. like I said, I over-identify because my son is the hero type- he'd definitely stay, and "go in" first.

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:46:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:46:17 PM" ) )9:46 AM yesterday
@marie rich Well, plutonium is an alpha-emitter, so as long as they wear masks that block particles from being inhaled, it won't hurt them.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:44:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:44:26 PM" ) )9:44 AM yesterday
@Karen Warren One thing to consider is how small of a force the SDF is and the magnitude of the disaster. Initially the search and rescue focus- opening roads up etc.

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:43:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:43:48 PM" ) )9:43 AM yesterday
@all I didn't mean to sound like it's the end of the world... I cn't help but think about the nuke workers- and take it rather personally because my son would be one of them, he's a radtech. :(

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:43:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:43:07 PM" ) )9:43 AM yesterday
@Sky It had the opposite effect on me, as I was unable to separate myself from it for things like 8 hours of sleep >_<.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:42:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:42:48 PM" ) )9:42 AM yesterday
@Jim Yep.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 3:42:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:42:46 PM" ) )9:42 AM yesterday
*too

by kgriff at 3/28/2011 3:42:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:42:32 PM" ) )9:42 AM yesterday
@Jim Carver Like Gorbachev said, "there can never be to much truth"

by kgriff at 3/28/2011 3:42:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:42:24 PM" ) )9:42 AM yesterday
It is a bad-news-fatigue. The first few days I could hardly sleep. When the Reuters news blog opened, and we started being able to mentally process some of the information, my sleep improved, not because of worrying less, but because of the sense of being able to do something constructive, and feeling that we had a handle on some of the information and a source to keep up with unfolding events in a timely way.

by Sky at 3/28/2011 3:42:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:42:00 PM" ) )9:42 AM yesterday
Another Kyodo news item -- Monitoring to be strengthened. (It took how much prodding to get TEPCO to look for it, and now they will strengthen the monitoring -- hopefully some semi independent group that actually is interested in seeing what is there.)

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 3:41:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:41:19 PM" ) )9:41 AM yesterday
I had mentioned that Pu is produced in the other reactors -- the latest Kyodo news flash states they are not sure which reactor sourced the Pu.

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 3:39:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:39:32 PM" ) )9:39 AM yesterday
@George: I saw that and remember the hospital that was left on its own. There were a few articles written that focused on the workers at the plant that are very telling. It's the kidos that break my heart. IMHO, the GoJ needs to call it a mandatory evacuation zone and do everything in its power to get the people out and do it NOW!

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 3:38:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:38:26 PM" ) )9:38 AM yesterday
@George Gibb Yeah guess it's a coping mechanism.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:38:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:38:13 PM" ) )9:38 AM yesterday
@Jim Carver Can't do much about a bad situation

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:36:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:36:48 PM" ) )9:36 AM yesterday
AH HA! I found it! The article I read before analyzing the effects of a terrorist attack using a dirty Plutonium bomb in an urban area. muller.lbl.gov

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:36:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:36:44 PM" ) )9:36 AM yesterday
Isn't it funny how we are resetting our BS meter every day? We're willing to compromise at little more each time.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:36:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:36:20 PM" ) )9:36 AM yesterday
www.cnn.com

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:34:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:34:32 PM" ) )9:34 AM yesterday
@shelia - there is a group rescuing animals around Fukushima City, Sendai, Iyate (sp?). They have been working outside of the evacuation zone. I worry about their exposure since they are outside for long periods of time trying to catch scared abandoned animals. I did see a few pictures of animals being scanned at evac. centers but that is the only place with equipment to test.

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 3:34:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:34:31 PM" ) )9:34 AM yesterday
@Karen Warren This one broke my heart

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:34:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:34:26 PM" ) )9:34 AM yesterday
@hans what is the source for that statistic?

by Joshua Diamond at 3/28/2011 3:34:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:34:26 PM" ) )9:34 AM yesterday
At Chernobyl thet had squads who had to go out and shoot all the animals they could find, including pets.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 3:33:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:33:57 PM" ) )9:33 AM yesterday
@Kat It's not to say that it isn't very bad for your health if you breathe a certain amount of it. It is just the chances of enough of it accumulating for you to breathe that amount are highly unlikely due to its heaviness.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:33:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:33:53 PM" ) )9:33 AM yesterday
@George: If you look, it's there. I'll try and find some relavent articles and post accordingly. I have to get to off and focus on my work. Thanks, buddy... :-)

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 3:33:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:33:53 PM" ) )9:33 AM yesterday
What about the INES scale? Level 5 with a "minuscule amounts of plutonium"?

by ilginger at 3/28/2011 3:33:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:33:50 PM" ) )9:33 AM yesterday
A millionth of a gram of radioactive heavy metal, inhaled into the lungs, is sufficient to cause cancer. In nature, the substance only in minimal amounts, but is produced artificially as you can to build bombs. Depending on the degree of purity sufficient for a nuclear bomb as five kilograms. Until the beginning of eighties of the last century, the world's reactors had been bred about 300,000 kilograms. Every year about 20,000 kilos.

by hans at 3/28/2011 3:33:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:33:46 PM" ) )9:33 AM yesterday
Reposting as link was broken: russp.org
Recapping:
-- Plutonium: fatal at 1 mg/kg
-- Botulinum toxin: fatal at < 1ng/kg (yes 1 nanogram)
Bottom line: There are lots of substances out there which are far more dangerous to public health. It all a matter of distribution [consider cigarettes/lung cancer, particulate automobile exhaust/asthma]...

by Joshua Diamond at 3/28/2011 3:33:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:33:19 PM" ) )9:33 AM yesterday
I'm really just reading that plutonium isn't much of a risk and no one has yet died from exposure. Good to know.

by Kat at 3/28/2011 3:33:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:33:03 PM" ) )9:33 AM yesterday
Could the plutonium have come from perhaps a spent fuel rod that was ejected from a cooling pool during the earthquake and tsunami? I understand that a small quantity of Pu is produced in regular Uranium fuel rods as a byproduct of operating a reactor? (Somebody correct me if this is wrong.)

by Sky at 3/28/2011 3:32:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:32:41 PM" ) )9:32 AM yesterday
A paper about Plutonium Contamination www.irpa.net

by Sin at 3/28/2011 3:32:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:32:11 PM" ) )9:32 AM yesterday
I'm wondering if they're going to have to go out and put-down all of the animals near the plant because they'll be contaminated? I presume people who evacuated had to leave pets behind? I haven't read anything about that, but of course animals shouldn't be a priority. I'm curious how they handle that?

by sheilatoulouse at 3/28/2011 3:31:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:31:53 PM" ) )9:31 AM yesterday
@borrrden I fold... " * News
* World news
* Spain

Spain demands US clears earth from site of 1966 nuclear bomb mishap

Obama administration is told to remove Palomares soil contaminated with half a tonne of plutonium 'without delay'" www.guardian.co.uk

by kgriff at 3/28/2011 3:31:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:31:22 PM" ) )9:31 AM yesterday
NHK's report on the plutonium (Japanese) www3.nhk.or.jp I will translate some key portions. The tests were conducted on 5 soil samples taken from March 21 - 22 and at least 2 of them had miniscule amounts of plutonium that could either have come as a byproduct of uranium fission, or from MOX fuel.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:31:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:31:10 PM" ) )9:31 AM yesterday
@Kat - Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease - Public Health Statement for Plutonium - www.atsdr.cdc.gov

by Cup at 3/28/2011 3:31:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:31:07 PM" ) )9:31 AM yesterday
@bobby1: i understand as well, and i agree with marie rich. borreden ~ one nuclear lake articles.latimes.com

by elise at 3/28/2011 3:31:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:31:01 PM" ) )9:31 AM yesterday
@Karen Warren Main media is focusing on nuc and dropped all the other issues

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:30:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:30:24 PM" ) )9:30 AM yesterday
George thank you tremendously for opening and moderating this site. Pinning the latest news articles by name is very, very helpful and a time saver for everybody. Much gratitude.

by Sky at 3/28/2011 3:29:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:29:56 PM" ) )9:29 AM yesterday

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thank you ES, and all. This blog is very informative, even for a layperson. I'm glad you continuted after reuters pulled the plug

by sheilatoulouse at 3/28/2011 3:29:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:29:10 PM" ) )9:29 AM yesterday
@George: Thanks for the links. Personally, I'd like to see a little more from the humanitarian side. If it weren't for the people, all this talk would be fruitless, IMHO.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 3:29:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:29:06 PM" ) )9:29 AM yesterday
@Jim carver tell that to the population of Ireland.the Irish sea is significantly contaminated with Pu thanks to sellafield, yet most people don't make a huge fuss about it for some reason.

by Sims at 3/28/2011 3:29:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:29:02 PM" ) )9:29 AM yesterday
@kgriff I see your crash and raise you a Hanford Site en.wikipedia.org

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:28:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:28:54 PM" ) )9:28 AM yesterday
Sorry my bad. From "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_I_nuclear_accident" re: presence of MOX fuel in No. 3

From September 2010, unit 3 has been fueled by mixed-oxide (MOX) fuel.[90]

At the time of the accident, reactor No. 1 contained 400 fuel assemblies, No. 2, No. 3, and No. 5 548 fuel assemblies, and No. 6 764 fuel assemblies in their respective reactors. Reactor No. 4 was empty of fuel assemblies in its reactor, but had 1,331 spent fuel assemblies in its cooling pool. Reactor No. 1 had 292, No. 2 587, No. 3 514, No. 5 946, and No. 6 876 spent fuel assemblies in their respective cooling pools.

by Sky at 3/28/2011 3:28:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:28:45 PM" ) )9:28 AM yesterday
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by Sky at 3/28/2011 3:27:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:27:41 PM" ) )9:27 AM yesterday
@Bobby: I understand. We all do.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 3:27:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:27:31 PM" ) )9:27 AM yesterday
If your looking for a plutonium contamination event, check out the 1966 Palomares crash en.wikipedia.org It resulted in an area of plutonium contaminated soil in Spain, and also some soil taken to the US.

by kgriff at 3/28/2011 3:27:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:27:25 PM" ) )9:27 AM yesterday
@sheilatoulouse The press conference is ongoing so details still emerging.

by es at 3/28/2011 3:27:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:27:16 PM" ) )9:27 AM yesterday
@george, thanks for all your work

by mainejen at 3/28/2011 3:26:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:26:57 PM" ) )9:26 AM yesterday
@Sin: I do. IAEA must have stepped it up the chain-of-command.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 3:26:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:26:29 PM" ) )9:26 AM yesterday
@jim sorry...it's just that I've read about some sub navy nuke guys, it was sad....

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:26:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:26:08 PM" ) )9:26 AM yesterday
@All Morning collection of news stories pinned

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:25:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:25:36 PM" ) )9:25 AM yesterday
"Plutonium has been detected in soil at five locations at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Monday." detected at 5 locations, but out of how many tested? At what precise levels? The lack of information is frustrating

by sheilatoulouse at 3/28/2011 3:25:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:25:29 PM" ) )9:25 AM yesterday
@all Can't overblow the significence of Pu.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:25:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:25:23 PM" ) )9:25 AM yesterday
OPINION: REMEMBER THIS? I believe it was decided then the situation was unmanageable. Notice we have heard no more about it. March 25, 2011

UN Insider

Category: UN Direct

Japan: this morning the SG convened a meeting of heads of agencies, funds and programs (including IAEA DG, UNDP Administrator, etc.), on the international response to the developments resulting from the situation at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. www.undispatch.com

by Sin at 3/28/2011 3:24:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:24:53 PM" ) )9:24 AM yesterday
@all at least it won't go far, unless there's a precipatating event- big fire, big explosion. It's heavy

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:24:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:24:51 PM" ) )9:24 AM yesterday
@john They're being careful to stress that as a by-product in could be coming from any of the units, not necessarily reactor 3.

by es at 3/28/2011 3:24:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:24:38 PM" ) )9:24 AM yesterday
@Karen Warren If the plutonium source was the fuel rods, it is likely that it has been spreading for some time.

by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 3:23:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:23:34 PM" ) )9:23 AM yesterday
@All Plutonium is really bad news. I feel like crying. when it's expose to *moist* air it oxidizes, that makes the sample expandby 70%, turning into a powder which can spontaneously *combust*! It's one of the main causes of military nuke accidents. It gets taken up by bone marrow- no getting rid of it- and causes blood cell generation to be severly impacted. Depending on which fissile isotope in the fuel, half life is either 376,000 yrs. or 24,100 yrs. omg...

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:23:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:23:31 PM" ) )9:23 AM yesterday
@radioguy...here is the ENTIRE statement... URGENT: Plutonium detected in soil at Fukushima nuke plant: TEPCO
TOKYO, March 28, Kyodo

Plutonium has been detected in soil at five locations at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Monday.

The operator of the nuclear complex said that the plutonium is believed to have been discharged from nuclear fuel at the plant, which was damaged by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami.

==Kyodo

by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 3:23:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:23:22 PM" ) )9:23 AM yesterday
The plutonium found in the plant made me think of the idiot British reporter they had on ABC this morning. He went up to the plant gate in his SUV wearing no protection at all, got out and started running around.

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 3:23:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:23:21 PM" ) )9:23 AM yesterday
240 is for weapons so I think that it is from mox

by john at 3/28/2011 3:23:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:23:00 PM" ) )9:23 AM yesterday
This Pu fear seems a bit overblown to me. Chernobyl also spread around quite a bit of the stuff, but most of the health damage and contamination came from plain old Cs. People should be more worried about how far that is being spread around tbh.

by Sims at 3/28/2011 3:22:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:22:38 PM" ) )9:22 AM yesterday
en.wikipedia.org Plutonium Toxicity

by john at 3/28/2011 3:21:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:21:44 PM" ) )9:21 AM yesterday
@Bobby: Speculation re: Chinese?? Curious to your rationale.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 3:21:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:21:44 PM" ) )9:21 AM yesterday
The fuel rod inventory has for a long time been enumerated in the JAIF reports, for example this one: www.jaif.or.jp It's about line 6-7 in the table.

by Sky at 3/28/2011 3:21:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:21:32 PM" ) )9:21 AM yesterday
@ borrrden thank you

by Kat at 3/28/2011 3:21:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:21:30 PM" ) )9:21 AM yesterday
@Bobby1 I only seen the news flash and it didn't specify what

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:21:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:21:11 PM" ) )9:21 AM yesterday
@radioguy Yeah all kinds of things, migratory birds, our own transportation systems, people themselves, pollen, you name it.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:21:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:21:03 PM" ) )9:21 AM yesterday
@Joshua Diamond - your link doesn't work.

by Lethbridgean at 3/28/2011 3:20:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:20:54 PM" ) )9:20 AM yesterday
@Kat www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:20:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:20:52 PM" ) )9:20 AM yesterday
@Markfm Just my opinion, but I would think sampling the soil outside the plant would be easier than testing for plutonium inside the facility.

by James Ward at 3/28/2011 3:20:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:20:39 PM" ) )9:20 AM yesterday
@George Gibb And remember the story of the travelers from Japan detained in China. Presumably plutonium contaminated them also.

by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 3:20:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:20:16 PM" ) )9:20 AM yesterday
Does anyone have a link to realiable sources on the health risks of plutonium?

by Kat at 3/28/2011 3:19:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:19:49 PM" ) )9:19 AM yesterday
@Jojo @Jim Carver - it isn't even close. See russp.org

by Joshua Diamond at 3/28/2011 3:19:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:19:35 PM" ) )9:19 AM yesterday
@Jeff I finally found something: allthingsnuclear.org This says that 32 units of MOX were loaded in Sept 2010. This www.ans.org says that there are 32 units in the reactor at the time of the accident. There aren't any articles explicitly stating that there are no MOX rods in the pool....to me it seems like the opposite should be true, they should say something if there are.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:19:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:19:02 PM" ) )9:19 AM yesterday
@Jim Carver Some salmon migrate west-east across the pacific and back later in their lives. What other fisheries share US and Japanese waters.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:18:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:18:52 PM" ) )9:18 AM yesterday
@Bobby1 Imagine the local contamination - price for becoming a manufacturing power

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:18:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:18:47 PM" ) )9:18 AM yesterday
@Markfm That might be next week's report.

by es at 3/28/2011 3:18:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:18:26 PM" ) )9:18 AM yesterday
@Sky Well put.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:18:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:18:19 PM" ) )9:18 AM yesterday
CNN reporting the story now...."Plutonium in soil at plant".

by James Ward at 3/28/2011 3:18:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:18:02 PM" ) )9:18 AM yesterday
Question is did they even sample outside the plant...

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 3:17:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:17:46 PM" ) )9:17 AM yesterday
@MaryMary Five locations. Out of how many tested?

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:17:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:17:34 PM" ) )9:17 AM yesterday
Pu can get dispersed my natural mechanisms. Takes a little longer is all.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:17:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:17:30 PM" ) )9:17 AM yesterday

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My heart is very heavy with the latest news. Like most of you, I have not been able to tear my eyes away from this incident since the tsunami because my mind extrapolates out the possible horrific consequences. I just want to go on record expressing love and compassion and sorrow for what is occurring and all of the human suffering that is occuring. This is such a tragedy.

by Sky at 3/28/2011 3:17:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:17:29 PM" ) )9:17 AM yesterday
@Jojo Thus far they're stressing it's at the plant only.

by es at 3/28/2011 3:16:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:16:17 PM" ) )9:16 AM yesterday
Plutonium soil pollution reporting is far more relevant if they tell you how many samples at what distances it took to find it.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:16:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:16:11 PM" ) )9:16 AM yesterday
What Kyodo has, not much. Can they tell the difference between plutonium from regular rods and plutonium from the MOX fuel? english.kyodonews.jp

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 3:16:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:16:07 PM" ) )9:16 AM yesterday
@borrrden That's funny, California has detected lead emissions from China, which is also heavy. www.environmentalhealthnews.org

by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 3:15:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:15:40 PM" ) )9:15 AM yesterday
@Sin: Well put. My concern is for the average person who are just trying to cope and keep some assemblance of normalcy to their every day life.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 3:15:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:15:11 PM" ) )9:15 AM yesterday
@Sin Agree

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:14:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:14:32 PM" ) )9:14 AM yesterday
@Markfm That's what I thought too. It wouldn't be just in the R3 SFP.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:14:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:14:14 PM" ) )9:14 AM yesterday
@Jojo The one saving grace about plutonium is that it can't spread far since it is so heavy.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:14:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:14:09 PM" ) )9:14 AM yesterday
@radioguy...the Kyodo article says 5 locations (very short, terse statement that)

by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 3:14:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:14:06 PM" ) )9:14 AM yesterday
@ALL OPINION: I think we all can read between the lines here. If we just accept the data as given to us, I would just be appalled at the lack of ability to handle this situation. Of course they have blueprints, and of course they know exactly the condition of everything that is going on....technology has come a long way since 1986. I think this is a situation where survival of the fittest equates to the fittest being the more intelligent segment of the local populace who can figure out that they need to relocate without being made to do so...and this situation currently is one of stalling and posturing while the wealthy relocate their assets and they put measures in place to ensure their own security.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 3:13:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:13:43 PM" ) )9:13 AM yesterday
Any estimates of how much Plutonium was spread, and how FAR??? In the ocean? Inland in towns???

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 3:13:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:13:05 PM" ) )9:13 AM yesterday
Another mention was Germany & France have sets of industrial large robots to deal with nuke disasters but have not sent them to Japan. Apparently the Japanese agency now in charge of industry and safety thought about creating a hazardous disaster type group of robots and just suddenly did an about face and scrapped the program. So all of their robot development has mostly been these fake human types for residential tasks

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 3:12:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:12:54 PM" ) )9:12 AM yesterday
Opinion: The weight of the burden is on TEPCO. The GofJ and all of its assorted agencies have been putting pressure on the company to not only ramp up its reporting, but also advised TEPCO to find 'replacement' workers (burn out is in full force now). Good news is that TEPCO has now enlisted the help of France. Hopefully, it will open the gateway to more international expert assistance.

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 3:11:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:11:59 PM" ) )9:11 AM yesterday
@Jase So are they showing they found it in three samples. ALL THREE SAMPLES?

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:11:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:11:54 PM" ) )9:11 AM yesterday
@Jase, one circle is on a structure with a label. Anyone knows what it says?

by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 3:11:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:11:45 PM" ) )9:11 AM yesterday
Plutonium is also a by-product in the other reactors (1,2,4) I thought, would be present in the old assemblies in all of the SFPs. That's why the Japanese have been working on their reprocessing center (not activated), to extract Pu from the old rods to use in the creation of new MOX rods. I could be wrong, but believe that is the case.

by Markfm at 3/28/2011 3:11:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:11:43 PM" ) )9:11 AM yesterday
Cyanide is also much more lethal than plutonium.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 3:11:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:11:35 PM" ) )9:11 AM yesterday
@Joshua Diamond And a microgram can kill you? Well maybe, at least my immune system has a chance.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:11:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:11:24 PM" ) )9:11 AM yesterday
@fitter. What I read over the weekend was that US was sending over a couple of large heavy equipment robots that belong to the DOE. IRobot also sent over a batch of various combat and industrial robots. IIRC these are the size of their combat robots (about human sized). They have them in Japan and were working with the teams to get things set to work in the environment. They refused to disclose more citing security.

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 3:11:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:11:13 PM" ) )9:11 AM yesterday
@Joshua Diamond Good point Joshua, Thanks

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 3:11:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:11:03 PM" ) )9:11 AM yesterday
@Joshua Diamond Can we say one of the most toxic, the most toxic element, etc?

by Jojo at 3/28/2011 3:10:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:10:56 PM" ) )9:10 AM yesterday
Can we PLEASE stop repeating the "plutonium is the most toxic substance known to man" trope? It was invented by Ralph Nader, and is NOT based upon actual science. In fact, the most toxic substance known to man is Botulinum toxin. See en.wikipedia.org and atomicinsights.com

by Joshua Diamond at 3/28/2011 3:10:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:10:11 PM" ) )9:10 AM yesterday
My heart breaks for the people of Japan.

by Debra Beckham at 3/28/2011 3:09:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:09:44 PM" ) )9:09 AM yesterday
@all I think the facade is near the breaking point.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:09:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:09:32 PM" ) )9:09 AM yesterday
The issue with the CL38 is that it has such a short half0life that if you find it outside a reactor it indicates ongoing fission.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:09:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:09:31 PM" ) )9:09 AM yesterday
Posted by Katz on his chat stream "TEPCO: Where TEPCO sampled the soil that had plutonium ->http://plixi.com/p/87602186

by Jase via Plixi at 3/28/2011 3:08:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:08:59 PM" ) )9:08 AM yesterday
@Jim Carver , yeah like the icons in Chernobyl.

by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 3:08:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:08:27 PM" ) )9:08 AM yesterday
@sin also we are very overextend...2/3 of my brother unit have been deploying the last two week for the"no fly zone"

by fitter at 3/28/2011 3:08:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:08:16 PM" ) )9:08 AM yesterday
and here comes the spin: Tepco says "no risk for health" (Reuters)

by Dom at 3/28/2011 3:07:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:07:36 PM" ) )9:07 AM yesterday
Plutonium i mean.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:07:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:07:32 PM" ) )9:07 AM yesterday
@Sin I believe they're there to go to the next phase of evac. should it become necessary

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:07:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:07:32 PM" ) )9:07 AM yesterday
I'm still stuck on this: If they found radioactivity in soil the first time they looked for it, think how much there is around the plant.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:07:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:07:25 PM" ) )9:07 AM yesterday
@Bobby1, we should not be surprised, since we were discussing the mysterious "neutron beams" since last Thursday.

by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 3:07:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:07:22 PM" ) )9:07 AM yesterday
@Sky Except for one thing. Things only become radioactive when bombarded with nuetrons.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:06:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:06:55 PM" ) )9:06 AM yesterday
@Sky You could be right. Either way it implies core leak

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:06:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:06:27 PM" ) )9:06 AM yesterday
has anyone heard news about robots to go in... france has some, so do we....

by fitter at 3/28/2011 3:06:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:06:12 PM" ) )9:06 AM yesterday
@ Jeff...The US has already withdrawn their troops away from the site and sent the women and children home. Given the financial repercussions they would not want to alarm the public outright with a evacuation, but I bet they are not drinking the tapwater, or eating the local food.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 3:06:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:06:08 PM" ) )9:06 AM yesterday
@Nancy @ Sin I'd never thought of that- vy good point

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:05:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:05:43 PM" ) )9:05 AM yesterday
@Jeff I think they abandoned the idea that there was no meltdown or release themselves a while back, and are only now publicly abandoning it.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:05:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:05:32 PM" ) )9:05 AM yesterday
I thought the thought process with the highly radioactive Chlorine isotope was that it would most likely have been produced inside the reactor(s) which were flooded with seawater for cooling before they switched over to freshwater a few days ago. Since seawater and sodium chloride were inside the reactors and had a chance to get bombarded with radiation, the chlorine isotope was thought to indicate recent leakage from inside of a reactor(s).

by Sky at 3/28/2011 3:05:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:05:29 PM" ) )9:05 AM yesterday
Anyone got more details on the plutonium finding? Like amounts, are they going to release findings for other areas outside the plant?

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 3:05:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:05:10 PM" ) )9:05 AM yesterday
So finally we hear the P-word.

by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 3:04:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:04:43 PM" ) )9:04 AM yesterday
@Kgriff if you get to the end of that NYT article it continues here books.google.com

by kgriff at 3/28/2011 3:04:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:04:38 PM" ) )9:04 AM yesterday
Thanks Sin, it seems very odd that something that has regulatory oversight, critical to disaster management and needed for any modifications was not put on computer systems. Tepco's corporate headquarters should have had those blueprints in both hard copy and data files.

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 3:04:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:04:29 PM" ) )9:04 AM yesterday

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Plutonium detected in soil at Fukushima plant (Kyodo News) 23:52

by Dom at 3/28/2011 3:04:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:04:25 PM" ) )9:04 AM yesterday
@marie: Just hoping that everything so far originated from the SPF, and that the reactors are intact....

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 3:03:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:03:26 PM" ) )9:03 AM yesterday
And yet they stopped including Cl-38 levels after that one report. Maybe they're trying to imply that those short-life isotopes were only found that one time. It all fall in with the "partial meltdown happened in the past and not going to happen again" line.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:03:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:03:18 PM" ) )9:03 AM yesterday
And yet they stopped including Cl-38 levels after that one report. Maybe they're trying to imply that those short-life isotopes were only found that one time. It all fall in with the "partial meltdown happened in the past and not going to happen again" line.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 3:03:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:03:10 PM" ) )9:03 AM yesterday
@Sky K Got it. Thanks.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:03:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:03:06 PM" ) )9:03 AM yesterday
It would be critical that blueprints and schematics were on computer since all engineering/architecture moved to CAD by the late 90's.

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 3:02:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:02:52 PM" ) )9:02 AM yesterday
@Jim Carver, Dean explained that effect the other day. I remember vaguely that water in the reactor begins to oscillate between steam and liquid, uncovering and covering the fuel rods periodically which could cause periodic criticality. I am sorry I cannot explain it any better.

by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 3:02:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:02:50 PM" ) )9:02 AM yesterday
@radioguy that's right

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:02:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:02:34 PM" ) )9:02 AM yesterday
You can follow press conference here iwakamiyasumi.com (only in Japanese, sorry)

by estacion at 3/28/2011 3:02:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:02:29 PM" ) )9:02 AM yesterday
@ Jeff, yes I know this. But critical data like that should have been scanned in by the late 90's. This is standard, most companies did this, ie: critical company documents were scanned and put into the corporate computer data.

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 3:02:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:02:13 PM" ) )9:02 AM yesterday
I am in network security and Nancy is correct in her statement about the redundancy issue in computer systems.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 3:02:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:02:08 PM" ) )9:02 AM yesterday
@JimCarver, the chugging phenomenon goes something like this. You have a subcritical (cannot fission) mass that is probably divided into smaller particles like pieces of decomposed fuel rod. Then due to physical movement that could be caused by steam or melting, for example, the nuclear configuration changes such that a small area of sustained criticality occurs with increase in radiation. Then the mass moves again and stops being critical. It is an on-again, off-again phenomenon where physical and temperature changes in a moving mass can cause it to cycle between criticality and non-criticality. At least that is my layperson's understanding.

by Sky at 3/28/2011 3:02:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:02:07 PM" ) )9:02 AM yesterday
@Jeff yes either reactor core or spf, but from #3

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:02:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:02:01 PM" ) )9:02 AM yesterday
@James Ward That's true except for detection. It's not that hard to detect.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 3:01:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:01:56 PM" ) )9:01 AM yesterday
Another possibility for partial meltdowns is liquid nitrogen injection, this was done with a Leningrad RMBK in 1975, one of the lesser known Soviet events. www.nytimes.com

by kgriff at 3/28/2011 3:01:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:01:22 PM" ) )9:01 AM yesterday
Interesting article published in the Asia Sentinel: "Radiation and You" www.asiasentinel.com QUOTE: "3) Uncontrolled radioactive emissions until today. As the Fukushima reactors use MOX fuel rods which include plutonium, it is highly probable that plutonium, the most poisonous substance known to man, has been released into the atmosphere.

We have been told by experts that plutonium is almost impossible to detect in small quantities but no less deadly. Will this area, or even Tokyo itself, become uninhabitable? If one factors in plutonium, we have to change the scale by which we view nuclear accidents. Fukushima could in fact become more deadly than Chernobyl."

by James Ward at 3/28/2011 3:00:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:00:38 PM" ) )9:00 AM yesterday
The chlorineisotope is significant to them because when radiation of high energy (like gamma) hits sea water it forms this isotope. If it's in the sea water, they're very probably getting run-off from the plant to the sea

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 3:00:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:00:20 PM" ) )9:00 AM yesterday
@Sin: Yeah but I strongly doubt the US wouldn't withdraw their troops if they know it would get really bad soon. I'm mean of course it's very bad, but it might be containable, still.

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 3:00:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 3:00:17 PM" ) )9:00 AM yesterday
@Nancy I know, it is so, god I can't think of a word. Bumbling.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 2:59:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:59:29 PM" ) )8:59 AM yesterday
OPINION @Jeff that would be my guess...but I know that they have the best nuclear damage control experts in the world advising and overseeing the operation. The US alone has minute details gleaned from satellites and highly sophisticated monitoring devices which they are sitting on.The world has a huge incentive to ensure this situation is brought under control, or at least manage the PR of it and keep us in ignorance as long as they can because when the severity of the situation comes out the consequences will have disastrous results for the world economy. I believe it is a sham, to keep the public guessing. Just think about what happens when the world's third largest economy in the world collapses.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 2:59:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:59:19 PM" ) )8:59 AM yesterday
Oh right. September.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 2:59:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:59:11 PM" ) )8:59 AM yesterday
@Nancy: Those plants were built when there weren't any computers :p

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:58:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:58:58 PM" ) )8:58 AM yesterday
@radioguy No, they were only put in less than half a year ago.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 2:58:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:58:54 PM" ) )8:58 AM yesterday
@borrrden They never removed MOX units since the 32 were put in? Then core.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 2:58:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:58:38 PM" ) )8:58 AM yesterday
@borrrden: Sure? I thought there was MOX fuel in the pools. You have a source?

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:58:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:58:34 PM" ) )8:58 AM yesterday
@ Jim, I read that last night and wondered why a company did not have blueprints etc. on a computer network these days? Something like that should have been on remote back ups and offsite servers. That is the norm. Keep critical data on servers in multiple locations including one far divorced from your local climate/region. For just these reasons.

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 2:58:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:58:18 PM" ) )8:58 AM yesterday
@NHK Listener Sorry significance is that at least some is leaking forom reactor 3; the mox fuel.. also, with Deans help last night (early this morning, i guess), I think figured out why they were looking for chlorine isotope.

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 2:58:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:58:03 PM" ) )8:58 AM yesterday
@fitter: We were talking about reactor water levels

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:57:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:57:56 PM" ) )8:57 AM yesterday
@fiona Inside the core of 3 or in the spent fuel rods.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 2:57:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:57:44 PM" ) )8:57 AM yesterday
@Jeff No chance....no MOX rods in the pool.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 2:57:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:57:39 PM" ) )8:57 AM yesterday
regarding pool levels... just guessing.. they do not have acurate measuring devices working, they are probaly guessing to a point... but also read an article that the pools have an air componient seal to increase the sealing pressure, but it would be unlikly that they have any gas/air lines still in operation to the seal.. don't know how true the seal contruction design is... i would think it would be more like a swimming pool so you don't have the worry of a leak.. all penetration would be above the fill line, but there are many reasons that they could be designed this way.. the person writting the article may have confused air blocks at the doors and other building penetration... has anyone seen much on design spec for the contaiment buildings and pools

by fitter at 3/28/2011 2:57:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:57:34 PM" ) )8:57 AM yesterday
@fiona MOX fuels is in 3.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 2:57:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:57:27 PM" ) )8:57 AM yesterday
@marie: Couldn't it still come from the SPF? I thought they also had those MOX things in there? Still hoping for the reactors to be intact...

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:57:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:57:05 PM" ) )8:57 AM yesterday
@all-embarrassed to ask this - but where exactly would the plutonium be coming from?

by fiona at 3/28/2011 2:56:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:56:52 PM" ) )8:56 AM yesterday
@borrrden Try here: iwakamiyasumi.com

by es at 3/28/2011 2:56:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:56:42 PM" ) )8:56 AM yesterday
yes, where is Katz watching the live press conference. Its not on www3.nhk.or.jp

by Yuri at 3/28/2011 2:56:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:56:27 PM" ) )8:56 AM yesterday
@NHK Listener The thing to me about that discovery just after they started testing for Pu is: How many samples did they have to take to detect it. One random sample? Five?

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 2:56:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:56:20 PM" ) )8:56 AM yesterday
@all Their offices were so badly damaged from the explosions that they can't even get to the blueprints and enginerring data. They had to contact vendors to get critical info about their own plant.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 2:56:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:56:18 PM" ) )8:56 AM yesterday
@NHK Listener The significance of the plutonium means at least some is k

by marie rich at 3/28/2011 2:55:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:55:54 PM" ) )8:55 AM yesterday
Apparantly it's Pu-238, Pu-239 and Pu-240

by es at 3/28/2011 2:55:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:55:48 PM" ) )8:55 AM yesterday
Where is Katz watching the press conference?! It is not on NHK here in Japan....

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 2:55:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:55:28 PM" ) )8:55 AM yesterday
BREAKING NEWS: Plutonium detected in soil at Fukushima nuke plant (23:52)
Not sure what to make of this. As per kyodo ticker

by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 2:54:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:54:47 PM" ) )8:54 AM yesterday
@Sin: Might even be that the construction is so complicated that the water level is a completely unimportant measurement that means nothing in this situation. Just some data, so they can release something. Kinda hilarious.

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:54:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:54:11 PM" ) )8:54 AM yesterday
@radioguy Good one.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 2:53:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:53:35 PM" ) )8:53 AM yesterday
@Jim Carver Yes, that's been obvious for a while now. My favourite little visual was from someone here: "It's like a duck, all calm and unruffled on the surface but underneath paddling like mad."

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 2:52:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:52:48 PM" ) )8:52 AM yesterday

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@Sin: One idea might be that the leak is on the height of the current water level, so that's why they cannot get the water any higher, and also the leaks. But what do I know, no one even really knows how the reactor looks. :-( Couple of days ago I saw the first photo of the operation level.

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:52:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:52:30 PM" ) )8:52 AM yesterday
@radioguy Yeah, surprise surprise.

by es at 3/28/2011 2:52:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:52:12 PM" ) )8:52 AM yesterday
@Peter Melzer I don't understand the chugging thing.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 2:51:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:51:55 PM" ) )8:51 AM yesterday
@Jim Carver, or critical again! Could not this be the result of chugging?

by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 2:51:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:51:11 PM" ) )8:51 AM yesterday
@Sin: So probably it's a combination of missing data, extrapolated data and guessed data. :-)

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:50:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:50:59 PM" ) )8:50 AM yesterday
@es Imagine. They "start testing for it" and the next day its found.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 2:50:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:50:57 PM" ) )8:50 AM yesterday
@radioguy ya, after being one of the first leaders to halt extensions on older plants.

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 2:50:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:50:37 PM" ) )8:50 AM yesterday
@Jeff I check those figures as soon as they come in, and yes, there is not explanation for it. Either the figures are guess-timates....they are lying...or they are leaking...but they just can't determine where the contaminated water all over the place is coming from. Its scandalous.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 2:50:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:50:17 PM" ) )8:50 AM yesterday
@all We have to consider they are desparate and just on the edge of losing it.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 2:50:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:50:03 PM" ) )8:50 AM yesterday
Katz is translating the current TEPCO conf - Plutonium has been detected: yokosonews.com

by es at 3/28/2011 2:49:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:49:58 PM" ) )8:49 AM yesterday
@Jim: But they are pumping in different amounts, the level wouldn't be so stable...?!

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:49:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:49:57 PM" ) )8:49 AM yesterday
@Sin: But then again, the pressure seems to be changing, certainly there must be some correlation between the water level and the pressure/temperature?

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:49:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:49:28 PM" ) )8:49 AM yesterday
Merkel was insane to announce new radioactivity limits in food the day before an election. What was she thinking? Incumbents and more-of-the-samers are already going down all over the world.

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 2:49:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:49:20 PM" ) )8:49 AM yesterday
@Jeff Not if there just able to put enough in the make uo what is lost.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 2:48:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:48:49 PM" ) )8:48 AM yesterday
@Sin: Yeah maybe they cannot monitor it, so the level might just be some number from two weeks ago.

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:48:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:48:30 PM" ) )8:48 AM yesterday
Good morning: My concern for the Japanese people is increasing exponentially. News reporting that people are returning to the area - "because of exhaustion and concern for their homes."

by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 2:48:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:48:27 PM" ) )8:48 AM yesterday
In chernobyl they were very focused on tunnelling UNDER the reactor to prevent it from 'melting down' into the ground water. Why is there no such worry here?

by sheilatoulouse at 3/28/2011 2:47:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:47:52 PM" ) )8:47 AM yesterday
@Sin: But the levels are extremely constant, check the graphs in the sticky post. If it were leaking, it would go down, wouldn't it?

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:47:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:47:52 PM" ) )8:47 AM yesterday
@Sin Agreed.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 2:47:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:47:29 PM" ) )8:47 AM yesterday
@borrrden, yup state elections were held in the state of Baden Wuerttemberg yesterday. The incumbent pro-nuc conservative government lost and The Greens, staunchly opposed to nuclear power since their founding, will be the majority partner in any government at that level for the first time in history. It is a significant change for a traditionally very conservative state. Ill-foreboding for Prof. Merkel.

by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 2:47:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:47:21 PM" ) )8:47 AM yesterday
Morning all. Anything critical before I go back and read the scroll?

by radioguy at 3/28/2011 2:47:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:47:14 PM" ) )8:47 AM yesterday
OPINION: I do not think the have the means to accurately monitor the water levels, but If I am wrong, the reports indicate that either their are significant leaks, or it is boiling away faster than their temperatures as reported would account fo.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 2:46:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:46:47 PM" ) )8:46 AM yesterday
@Jeff oops

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 2:46:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:46:42 PM" ) )8:46 AM yesterday
@Jim: If they were leaking, how can they keep the level so constant? Doesn't make any sense

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:46:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:46:40 PM" ) )8:46 AM yesterday
@George: The reactors, not the SPF.

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:46:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:46:26 PM" ) )8:46 AM yesterday
@Jeff They appear to be leaking and can't fill them up.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 2:46:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:46:08 PM" ) )8:46 AM yesterday
@Jeff One of the factors is that since the spent fuel pond is not being cooled externally a lot of water is boiled off - I seen some calculations somewhere??? and it was substantial.

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 2:45:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:45:48 PM" ) )8:45 AM yesterday
Great job, @George_Gibb. I think I will get some rest after a rather long day off and on. A great pleasure to be here. Can't wait to be back after recharging. Stay good and great.

by alblee at 3/28/2011 2:44:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:44:55 PM" ) )8:44 AM yesterday
@Sin: Maybe less water means less fission? But honestly, no one ever answered this question for me. :-( Any insight is appreciated.

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:43:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:43:44 PM" ) )8:43 AM yesterday
@borrrden thanks, I think that was the one I read

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 2:43:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:43:25 PM" ) )8:43 AM yesterday
But any mention of I-134 means the reactor is still critical.

by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 2:43:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:43:16 PM" ) )8:43 AM yesterday
Good question Jeff, been asking that since the beginning, but no explanation.

by Sin at 3/28/2011 2:42:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:42:38 PM" ) )8:42 AM yesterday
I have a question. Why is the water level in the reactors so low if they keep pumping water into it, especially now with the freshwater? One meter doesn't seem so much, can't they just fill it up? Or is the measuring wrong?

by Jeff at 3/28/2011 2:39:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:39:50 PM" ) )8:39 AM yesterday
@George Gibb That story is getting around quite fast. www.washingtonpost.com

by borrrden edited by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 2:39:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:39:05 PM" ) )8:39 AM yesterday
@Nancy Yes, I am very aware of this, I just wanted to make that point so that people didn't think that more than 1 was found. :)

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 2:38:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:38:26 PM" ) )8:38 AM yesterday
@Peter Melzer Yes, I was living in North Wales at the time of the Chernobyl releases and many farms are still affected there. I agree that where we have a choice we should try to be personally responsible for what we consume.

by es at 3/28/2011 2:38:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:38:22 PM" ) )8:38 AM yesterday
@borrden, google translate is very crude. It does not account for some language subtleties and will do things like that sometimes.

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 2:37:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:37:24 PM" ) )8:37 AM yesterday
@Optim I read an interesting story yesterday about German election results. I'll see if I can find it again

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 2:36:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:36:56 PM" ) )8:36 AM yesterday
@elainekirk2001 Maybe you could pin this, after you check the out? www.ask
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by marie rich edited by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 2:35:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:35:22 PM" ) )8:35 AM yesterday
@Nancy The translated version says "bodies" but the actual Japanese is only one body.

by borrrden at 3/28/2011 2:34:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:34:32 PM" ) )8:34 AM yesterday
@George Gibb: Thanks a bunch. Good to see Japanese protesting finally. WE have a nuclear plant proposed 160 km from my hometown in India and 160km from Mumbai, India. The farmers and other folks are up in arms against it.

by Optim at 3/28/2011 2:34:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:34:12 PM" ) )8:34 AM yesterday
Thanks for the post bomb test radiation reports.

by Brad at 3/28/2011 2:32:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:32:54 PM" ) )8:32 AM yesterday
@Jeff: I concur strongly with you. The first signs of things getting real bad will be indicated by US evacuation of it's personnel from bases near Tokyo and up north.

by Optim at 3/28/2011 2:32:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:32:33 PM" ) )8:32 AM yesterday
Google translate version of the Japanese only NHK article about the radioactive body. translate.google.com

by Nancy at 3/28/2011 2:32:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:32:26 PM" ) )8:32 AM yesterday
@All Today's collection of news stories now updated and pinned

by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 2:32:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 2:32:20 PM" ) ) Monday, March 28, 2011 8:32 AM

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