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by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 9:53:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:53:11 PM" ) ) Monday, March 28, 2011 3:53 PM
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Newly released aerial footage from the day of Japan's devastating earthquake and tsunami, shows both the immediate damage to the Fukushima nuclear plant and the massive tsunami wave heading inshore. Can somebody put the video on here
www.channel4.comby elainekirk at 3/28/2011 9:52:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:52:37 PM" ) )3:52 PM yesterday
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by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 9:52:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:52:00 PM" ) )3:52 PM yesterday
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I posted this link before. Interesting spin on things from various experts. You will have to filter through some of the OT discussions, but definitely worth your time.
bravenewclimate.comby Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 9:51:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:51:51 PM" ) )3:51 PM yesterday
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"Newly released aerial footage from the day of Japan's devastating earthquake and tsunami, shows both the immediate damage to the Fukushima nuclear plant and the massive tsunami wave heading inshore."
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 9:51:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:51:48 PM" ) )3:51 PM yesterday
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@marie rich It's such carefully scaled layers of admission, I keep thinking back tot he "grandma's on the roof" discussion the other day.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 9:51:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:51:40 PM" ) )3:51 PM yesterday
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by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 9:51:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:51:13 PM" ) )3:51 PM yesterday
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@Karen: what is scary is that I'm not even sure that Tepco knows more than what they say. They always seem to act as in total panic.
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 9:50:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:50:57 PM" ) )3:50 PM yesterday
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Sorry got first part of message cut off. @ Jim Carver my family also has problems possibly related to Oak Ridge - 4 generations - grandfather was a Manhattan project scientist, his children grew up there. Mitochondrial issues. Any similarities? Sorry so OT, but wanted to ask, it's almost impossible to connect the dots.
by watching at 3/28/2011 9:50:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:50:43 PM" ) )3:50 PM yesterday
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by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 9:50:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:50:34 PM" ) )3:50 PM yesterday
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@Marie Rich: "Many commercial nuclear power plants in Europe operate hybrid cores of low-enriched uranium (LEU)
and mixed-oxide (MOX) fuel assemblies, complicating material verification and safeguards."
www.ornl.govby Tenzing at 3/28/2011 9:50:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:50:18 PM" ) )3:50 PM yesterday
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@JMV There was a guy from Canada (Ontario I think) working #4 when the quake hit. I can't find an online source. I watched him being interviewed on tv
by d_news at 3/28/2011 9:50:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:50:06 PM" ) )3:50 PM yesterday
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Does it strike anyone else that right about now there must whole wings of buildings doing some serious word parsing for their next series of news releases?
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 9:50:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:50:00 PM" ) )3:50 PM yesterday
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by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 9:49:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:49:32 PM" ) )3:49 PM yesterday
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interview but no real info except that he wants his identity concealed ttp://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-19/world/japan.one.man_1_daiichi-plant-fuel-rods-kashiwazaki?_s=PM:WORLD
by Pat at 3/28/2011 9:49:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:49:21 PM" ) )3:49 PM yesterday
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@@Jim Carver My family too... I stepped away for a minute. Missed something
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 9:49:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:49:16 PM" ) )3:49 PM yesterday
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@sims This was posited by our blog days ago. we are good! But at least they're admitting it, finally
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 9:49:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:49:14 PM" ) )3:49 PM yesterday
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@sims : this sounds new - 3 reactor breaches ?
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 9:49:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:49:05 PM" ) )3:49 PM yesterday
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@sims They have officially admitted that possibility for over a week now, so that is old news. They haven't admitted that it has actually happened but since there is still no proof of it having happened we will have to wait for confirmation.
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 9:49:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:49:04 PM" ) )3:49 PM yesterday
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by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 9:48:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:48:57 PM" ) )3:48 PM yesterday
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@Karen: EDF is experienced with MOX, that may be the reason TEPCO ask for their help. [Ironical] They also have great experience of annoying facts hiding... May it help ?
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 9:48:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:48:23 PM" ) )3:48 PM yesterday
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@Jo Lindien Hello
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 9:48:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:48:22 PM" ) )3:48 PM yesterday
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hi all
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 9:47:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:47:06 PM" ) )3:47 PM yesterday
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@Jojo: Mixed-oxide (MOX) fuel performance benchmarks
L. J. Ott a,*, Terje Tverberg b, Enrico Sartori c
a Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, U.S.A.
b OECD Halden Reactor Project, Halden, Norway
c OECD/NEA Data Bank, Paris, France
Abstract
www.ornl.govby Tenzing at 3/28/2011 9:47:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:47:06 PM" ) )3:47 PM yesterday
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has problems poss. related to Oak Ridge - 4 gen's - grandfather was Manhattan project scientist, his children grew up there. Mitochondrial issues. Any similarities? Sorry so OT, but wanted to ask, it's almost impossible to connect the dots.
by @Jim Carver My family too... at 3/28/2011 9:46:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:46:54 PM" ) )3:46 PM yesterday
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by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 9:46:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:46:50 PM" ) )3:46 PM yesterday
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@sims recycled ap story
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 9:46:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:46:28 PM" ) )3:46 PM yesterday
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So have any bloodhounds here run down the chances of plutoniu oxide/hydrate exploding? I've been gone awhile
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 9:45:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:45:40 PM" ) )3:45 PM yesterday
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Is this new?
www.asahi.com <-- TEPCO admitting that RPVs are breached.
by sims at 3/28/2011 9:45:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:45:19 PM" ) )3:45 PM yesterday
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I don't have link...thought there was a tepco employee that went to another plant...daini? not sure maybe I'm confused
by Pat at 3/28/2011 9:45:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:45:15 PM" ) )3:45 PM yesterday
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Of course, TEPCO, knows more than its releasing. If it doesn't, better don your tin foil hat.
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 9:44:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:44:22 PM" ) )3:44 PM yesterday
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Have any of the workers inside the building when the earthquake struck been interviewed besides this guy?
www.reuters.comby JMV at 3/28/2011 9:43:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:43:51 PM" ) )3:43 PM yesterday
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@fitter tepco subcontactor interview
www.reuters.com I wonder why there's no sign of tsunami damage around the plant. If anyone has photos showing pre explosion debris please post
by Pat at 3/28/2011 9:43:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:43:33 PM" ) )3:43 PM yesterday
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@Pedro Jesus Fukushima Daiichi Unit 3 was operating with 32
mixed oxide (MOX) fuel assemblies and 516 low enriched uranium (LEU) fuel assemblies in its
reactor core. In other words, less than 6% of the fuel in the Unit 3 core was MOX fuel
by Arin Murtagh at 3/28/2011 9:43:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:43:31 PM" ) )3:43 PM yesterday
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@NHK Listener Hmmm...curioser...
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 9:43:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:43:10 PM" ) )3:43 PM yesterday
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@marie rich Yeah there are usually 3 by now..
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 9:42:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:42:45 PM" ) )3:42 PM yesterday
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ethier TEPCO knows more than they are releasing, OR they don't want to know the answers to some questions.
by fitter at 3/28/2011 9:42:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:42:39 PM" ) )3:42 PM yesterday
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@Gordon, et al: I was curious why TEPCO reached out to EDF, a French utility company, for assist. Old PR: On January 8, 2003, the consortium consisting of Electricite de France
(EDF),Sumitomo Corporation and TEPCO started construction of the natural
gas ACC (Advanced Combined Cycle) power plant so as to commence commercial
operation in September 2004 in respect of the Phu My 2-2 Project, the first
IPP project in Vietnam.
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 9:40:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:40:05 PM" ) )3:40 PM yesterday
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@peter the interview of employees between quake and isumai he was inside #3 when quake hit and they complained of steam/smoke (were locked in for 10 min) and they had trouble breathing.... so something was going on before the wave......
by fitter at 3/28/2011 9:40:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:40:00 PM" ) )3:40 PM yesterday
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by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 9:39:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:39:53 PM" ) )3:39 PM yesterday
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@NHK Listener Thanks. I thought they posted them there, but nothing!!
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 9:39:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:39:53 PM" ) )3:39 PM yesterday
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by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 9:38:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:38:14 PM" ) )3:38 PM yesterday
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@Jojo I think we all hope that. What really gets me going is how the "authorities" in Japan can so quickly and easily discount sound scientific evidence of a reactor vessel breach just because no one has a photo of it or no one has actually seen it! To me that would seem to be insanity in action and if so it doesn't bode well for a good outcome. (yes my opinion only).
by Gordon at 3/28/2011 9:38:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:38:11 PM" ) )3:38 PM yesterday
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@marie rich NISA reports? Yeah no new ones yet
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 9:37:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:37:59 PM" ) )3:37 PM yesterday
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So, MOX fuel would roughly count at about 6.1% of the overall fuel used in #3 reactor. That's only slightly above the 5% mentioned before. Could anyone confirm this?
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 9:37:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:37:52 PM" ) )3:37 PM yesterday
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does anyone know where I can find the current plant status parameters? Not JAIF, but the actual pressures and temp.s , etc. ?
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 9:37:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:37:25 PM" ) )3:37 PM yesterday
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@Peter Melzer: sorry, mistaken, please don't observe the post before.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 9:36:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:36:48 PM" ) )3:36 PM yesterday
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@Peter Melzer : yes but because of the earthquake. this means that the pipes ripped before the tsunami, so the plant did not withstand the earthquake (they were so proud of that).
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 9:35:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:35:28 PM" ) )3:35 PM yesterday
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@dean i don't know if you looked or listened to the #3 explosion.... but the noise was very loud and the camera equipment recording does not look that close..
by fitter at 3/28/2011 9:35:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:35:12 PM" ) )3:35 PM yesterday
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I need to take a break.. be back in a bit...
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:34:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:34:41 PM" ) )3:34 PM yesterday
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that's what I think too PETER... A LOCA which began the fuel damage before the tsunami
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:34:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:34:06 PM" ) )3:34 PM yesterday
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No nisa reports is disconcerting
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 9:33:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:33:46 PM" ) )3:33 PM yesterday
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fitter.. in the reports of those shipments that were sent back.. on of the ships that had some barrels of the mox fuel oxide fell or something and broke open and they basically had an emergency on their hands from that...
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:33:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:33:28 PM" ) )3:33 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko, I cannot read the values on the ordinate well. But the professor says that much. The reactor vessels are usually running at 7 MegaPascal. The earliest readings he could obtain for reactor 1 indicated 0.8 MegaPascal at 2:45 on Mar. 12, that is on the day after the quake. He clearly associates the drop in pressure to a loss of coolant in the reactor vessel, owing to ruptured pipes.
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 9:33:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:33:19 PM" ) )3:33 PM yesterday
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have seen several reports that france was preparing to ship "new" fuel to japan, but the gov't request it not ship due to the "lack of security" do not know what plant it was meant for... but thier ports are barley operational and i think they are "tied up with other problems" at the moment
by fitter at 3/28/2011 9:32:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:32:10 PM" ) )3:32 PM yesterday
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@NHK Listener I missed that one. Could you retrieve that information and check which are which so we can do some maths based on all these facts?
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 9:31:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:31:59 PM" ) )3:31 PM yesterday
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Did anyone find the wind records for the explosion days days to compare with their Pu sampling line? It might tell us what they considered to be the critical day.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 9:31:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:31:52 PM" ) )3:31 PM yesterday
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by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 9:31:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:31:40 PM" ) )3:31 PM yesterday
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I do hope that the international community of experts begins to play in to this accident and that the Japanese government is receptive ... somehow.. I feel we may not have seen all of the potential things from the reactors..
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:31:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:31:36 PM" ) )3:31 PM yesterday
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According to TEPCO, #3 reactor has 518 fuel rods. If they're all the same size we can easily estimate the percentage of MOX fuel rods, then
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 9:30:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:30:53 PM" ) )3:30 PM yesterday
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@Jay77 I grew up there 60's 70's. It was quite a debate. When they came up with the wildlife refuge, I said What!?, But, I still think it's kinda weird. My wife's Father worked there after he had worked at Oak Ridge. He met his wife at Oak Ridge, TN and they moved to Colorado. They didn't have any problems, but the kids did. He was pretty famous in science circles. Richard (Dick) Woodard.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 9:30:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:30:52 PM" ) )3:30 PM yesterday
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@Pedro Jesus There are 2 different size rods. I posted the story below
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 9:30:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:30:48 PM" ) )3:30 PM yesterday
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pretty much pedro, the way the fuel is dispersed in MOX versus UR would probably be different..
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:29:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:29:50 PM" ) )3:29 PM yesterday
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@Gordon Wings melting because you get too close to the sun (a ball of nuclear reactions)...a bit close to home, eh? I just hope it turns out well, or at the very least not catastrophic. I really really do.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 9:29:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:29:35 PM" ) )3:29 PM yesterday
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@Jojo Icarus...perfect.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 9:29:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:29:32 PM" ) )3:29 PM yesterday
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@dean Are the rods all of the same volume?
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 9:29:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:29:18 PM" ) )3:29 PM yesterday
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fitter good point plus.. the flash of the blast... must have been a tremoundous load on the floor of that building and sent shock wave through out the area...
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:28:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:28:58 PM" ) )3:28 PM yesterday
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@Pedro Jesus as I said the information in that comment is from the link
www.youtube.com I forgot to use quotation marks, I apologize.
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 9:28:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:28:42 PM" ) )3:28 PM yesterday
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@OPTIM i have posted link of exposion several times about 5 pgs back, they were not always showing this angle... but take all known buildings/towers into scale to give a better perseption of the 1)height 2)force - look at core as the plume rises 3) as the debris comes back down you will see on the left side very visable debris .... it is still breaking up.... REMEBER size of what is on the screen vs. the builds/towers.. these have to be quite large to still be visable and still be breaking up
by fitter at 3/28/2011 9:27:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:27:46 PM" ) )3:27 PM yesterday
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@Pedro Jesus 32 Rods of MOX
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 9:27:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:27:44 PM" ) )3:27 PM yesterday
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@Jojo I think that might be lost on them, or they might take it as praise! ... This would be hilarious if it weren't so deadly.
by Gordon at 3/28/2011 9:27:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:27:35 PM" ) )3:27 PM yesterday
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wow nancy...
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:27:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:27:20 PM" ) )3:27 PM yesterday
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@Tenzing Reactor #3 is using MOX and low-enriched Uranium. Do you know what percentage of each?
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 9:27:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:27:09 PM" ) )3:27 PM yesterday
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@Tenzing: AFAIK, only a fairly small percentage of the fuel in reactor 3 is MOX, would take a bit to dig up a source though, they were only recently licensed to use MOX there.
by sims at 3/28/2011 9:27:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:27:08 PM" ) )3:27 PM yesterday
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?O-O?... trifocals on ... DANG.. I think I see some plutonium
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:26:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:26:57 PM" ) )3:26 PM yesterday
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by Nancy at 3/28/2011 9:26:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:26:57 PM" ) )3:26 PM yesterday
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@ALL: I forgot to use " " in the last comment.
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 9:26:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:26:50 PM" ) )3:26 PM yesterday
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@Gordon They should call it Icarus Nature Reserve
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 9:25:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:25:31 PM" ) )3:25 PM yesterday
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@dean please don't don the trifocals you may see me for the complete novice I am and then where would my cred be ? ooo just thought, I don't have any cred - carry on my man don the trifocals :)
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 9:25:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:25:19 PM" ) )3:25 PM yesterday
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got ya rob... ty ..
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:25:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:25:12 PM" ) )3:25 PM yesterday
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People don't understand. Fukishima Reactor 3 has MOX as fuel. US and Europe use only upto 1/3 of rods as MOX per reactor. Japan use 50% in some and and are the only country to use 100% MOX. MOX has 5% weapons grade plutonium. In other words the plume at Chernobyl was spectacular. Fukishima's can be a virtual mist, or an almost invisible amount to cause even worse effects.
@ALL:
www.youtube.com
Procharmo 2 weeks ago
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 9:25:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:25:06 PM" ) )3:25 PM yesterday
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@Tenzing LOL that video about MOX "Making a safer world for our children"
by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 9:23:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:23:32 PM" ) )3:23 PM yesterday
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@Jojo Something similar to the Chernobyl Nature Reserve I suspect !!!
by Gordon at 3/28/2011 9:22:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:22:53 PM" ) )3:22 PM yesterday
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@Jay77 There will be a Fukushima Nature Reserve, it's just a matter of how large.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 9:21:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:21:57 PM" ) )3:21 PM yesterday
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by d_news at 3/28/2011 9:21:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:21:02 PM" ) )3:21 PM yesterday
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@Debra Beckham : in fact the reactor vessel in #1 lost its pressure before the tsunami.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 9:20:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:20:59 PM" ) )3:20 PM yesterday
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I just came across this video of the plant taken 11/3/27
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by d_news at 3/28/2011 9:20:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:20:52 PM" ) )3:20 PM yesterday
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Just learned about my own local plutonium accident from the late 1950s... Rocky Flats
en.wikipedia.org - I only knew it as 'Rocky Flats Wildlife Refuge'... Comforting...
by Jay77 at 3/28/2011 9:20:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:20:51 PM" ) )3:20 PM yesterday
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@dean, i never said that, but all depends on a few things, plutonium by its nature is heavy and will settle to the ground quite quick, if it was one blast then that plutonium will be mostly on the ground, or in the sea, bar what gets wipped up in the wind, but at the moment plutonium in these sorts of numbers is not the biggest worry, it is the the other 2 isotops that pose a bigger threat to the public of japan,
by rob at 3/28/2011 9:20:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:20:22 PM" ) )3:20 PM yesterday
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@Pedro Jesus I don't think it's worldwide, it's just naive to think that a company would not try to withhold bad information. For example in the Pu levels: in their press release they say it's possible it's from atomic testing (repeated by CNN news reporter), but in their PDF they clearly admit it's "their" Pu. And then there is the "magic" re-assessment of reactor 2 w/o any explanation whatsoever.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 9:20:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:20:17 PM" ) )3:20 PM yesterday
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elainekirk.. your going to make me put my trifocals on .. ha ha ... I have 2 power glasses and I see the little circles... and probably vapor...
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:20:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:20:10 PM" ) )3:20 PM yesterday
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I can see three plumes
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 9:18:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:18:38 PM" ) )3:18 PM yesterday
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Sorry, I have no idea where the person who expressed that idea got his info from. Would like to know.
by Sky at 3/28/2011 9:17:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:17:55 PM" ) )3:17 PM yesterday
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very good one gordon
by Optim.. study the video of... at 3/28/2011 9:17:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:17:29 PM" ) )3:17 PM yesterday
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@rob : do you really think there is no plutonium in the air and in the water ???
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 9:17:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:17:07 PM" ) )3:17 PM yesterday
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@VeenOui Only for those who believe in a world wide conspiracy around the Fukushima-Daiichi situation... I have yet to see any evidence of that before I will entertain that conjecture. I'm more interested in facts right now than in theories although I keep paying attention to every comment and every piece of news.
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 9:16:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:16:47 PM" ) )3:16 PM yesterday
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@Debra Beckham Can you confirm that debris fell back on R#3. Just because it exploded from R#3 does not mean it has to fall on r#3 again...
by Optim at 3/28/2011 9:15:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:15:32 PM" ) )3:15 PM yesterday
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@Debra Beckham I tend to agree with you. Its a nice sunny spring day today in the Rogue Valley wouldn't you say :)
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 9:14:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:14:20 PM" ) )3:14 PM yesterday
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@dean Yes that is my understanding, whereas in the US I understand the maximum removed for fuel rotation is 1/3 of the total core. This is then re assembled with the requisite new fuel and inserted into the core and the reactor re started. I have read several articles (not published papers though) that say that the Japanese Industry as a whole remove and re assemble the whole core with the required new rods then insert into the reactor. At any given time during the refueling process 3x more rods are at risk in Japan.
by Gordon at 3/28/2011 9:13:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:13:03 PM" ) )3:13 PM yesterday
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@sky, I can't find any news source saying that yet. Any idea where he got it? His twitter page didn't have any clues
by Nancy at 3/28/2011 9:12:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:12:53 PM" ) )3:12 PM yesterday
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In watching the video of the overhead flight the one glaring thing that caught my attention
is the massive upheaval of the road directly behind one of the reactors. Various news sources have said the critical damage was caused by the tsunami, not the earthquake. After seeing this, it is hard to believe that reactors could be built to withstand it. At 1:49
www.youtube.com US scientists opinion source:
www.foxnews.comby Debra Beckham at 3/28/2011 9:12:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:12:44 PM" ) )3:12 PM yesterday
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CalFire tweets say: #Japan #SDF #Fukushima Unit #3 fuel storage pool may have crushed storage racks which could lead to criticality. #FukNuke
12 minutes ago via web .#Japan #SDF #Fukushima video shot yesterday shows large crane collapsed into unit #3 reactor fuel storage pool. #FukNuke
14 minutes ago via web
by Sky at 3/28/2011 9:12:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:12:05 PM" ) )3:12 PM yesterday
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by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 9:11:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:11:01 PM" ) )3:11 PM yesterday
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@dean. o i know there a bloody long long time for it, but at the moment radation in the air is more risk than the PU on the ground,
by rob at 3/28/2011 9:10:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:10:37 PM" ) )3:10 PM yesterday
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@Pedro Jesus IAEA.those are fightin words round here :-)
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 9:10:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:10:18 PM" ) )3:10 PM yesterday
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@Nancy did you get the video with the progressive TEMPCO webcam shots? here it is just in case maybe that will help you.
www.youtube.comby Tenzing at 3/28/2011 9:09:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:09:26 PM" ) )3:09 PM yesterday
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@rob : look up its half time.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 9:09:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:09:23 PM" ) )3:09 PM yesterday
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@Dean so does more plutonium escape via MOX rods or a more volatile plutonium. I assumed more of it since it actually is in the rods vs. just a byproduct of fission.
by Nancy at 3/28/2011 9:08:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:08:57 PM" ) )3:08 PM yesterday
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yw dennis
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:08:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:08:45 PM" ) )3:08 PM yesterday
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IAEA update of the situation at Fukushima. Lot's of reliable information to go through that will answer many of the questions posed here during the day.
www.iaea.orgby Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 9:08:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:08:43 PM" ) )3:08 PM yesterday
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can you all imagine the power of the blast on #3.. the explosion was not only bigger in magnitude to lift that debris so high.. "the towers are 250 feet or so".. and then all that junk came right back down ... ALL OVER THE MAIN FLOOR OF THE BUILDING,, spent fuel pools etc.. crashing in things... I'd be amazed at if the whole of the fuel pool didn't get some damage from that..
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:08:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:08:42 PM" ) )3:08 PM yesterday
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@elainekirk Use this link for CalFireNews
bit.lyby VeenOui at 3/28/2011 9:08:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:08:34 PM" ) )3:08 PM yesterday
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@ElaineKirk - Yes that gets me to a bunch of CalFire tweets. Many thanks.
by Sky at 3/28/2011 9:08:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:08:20 PM" ) )3:08 PM yesterday
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@dean -- thank you! very concise statement.
by DennisV at 3/28/2011 9:07:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:07:52 PM" ) )3:07 PM yesterday
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@dean, just looked now. to be honest the water and the air is more of a worry than the Pu in the soil, IMO
by rob at 3/28/2011 9:07:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:07:51 PM" ) )3:07 PM yesterday
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@Nancy I think its No. 3 because the what's left of the roof line of No. 4 appears to be in the foreground of the plume. thats what I see.
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 9:07:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:07:04 PM" ) )3:07 PM yesterday
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plutnium is the main player that if it gets in the soil it renders it uninhabitale.. it's really a big deal and they need to continue with a wider sampling of plutonium in soil
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:06:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:06:47 PM" ) )3:06 PM yesterday
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@George Gibb; @MaryMary: Thanks to Mary also! Now I'll be flagspotting - hmmm, could be of educational value? ;)
by Paul (UK) at 3/28/2011 9:06:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:06:03 PM" ) )3:06 PM yesterday
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@sky does this work ?
twitter.com!/CalFireNews I use google mostly but watching twitter
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 9:05:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:05:50 PM" ) )3:05 PM yesterday
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nancy.. INDEED it is... much more of an issue..
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:05:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:05:41 PM" ) )3:05 PM yesterday
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rob.. did you read that link I put there on the plutonium..
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:05:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:05:21 PM" ) )3:05 PM yesterday
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@ dean. The plutonium in MOX is more of an issue than the plutonium generated by typical uranium rods?
by Nancy at 3/28/2011 9:04:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:04:53 PM" ) )3:04 PM yesterday
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Look between the towers, there is the dip in the trees and a ball of steam right there. about where the light spots have been. Anyone know about what reactor building is in that position?
by Nancy at 3/28/2011 9:04:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:04:07 PM" ) )3:04 PM yesterday
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that ans link talked around the issue... sure MOX has been used and is used and if all goes well.. no problems.. but.. if a fuel elements melts and releases it's source term of plutonium.. that's a problem
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:03:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:03:33 PM" ) )3:03 PM yesterday
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Elaine I don't know how to use twitter and when I click your link I get the twitter home page, not CalFire, but I would be interested in following up that one. Wish I knew where to find the info besides twitter.
by Sky at 3/28/2011 9:02:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:02:58 PM" ) )3:02 PM yesterday
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by
VeenOui via
Pointscope01.jp at 3/28/2011 9:02:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:02:55 PM" ) )3:02 PM yesterday
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by
Mina via
Pointscope01.jp at 3/28/2011 9:02:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:02:50 PM" ) )3:02 PM yesterday
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by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 9:02:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:02:41 PM" ) )3:02 PM yesterday
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@dean. they were PU 238 PU 239 and PU 240. all alpha, so not a hazad to the naked skin. nut if you inhale them they can cause problems
by rob at 3/28/2011 9:01:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:01:58 PM" ) )3:01 PM yesterday
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Not keeping up very well have we got this info
twitter.com !/CalFireNews #Japan #SDF #Fukushima Unit #3 fuel storage pool may have crushed storage racks which could lead to criticality.
by elainekirk edited by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 9:01:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:01:38 PM" ) )3:01 PM yesterday
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@Yuri Look omn top above reply box
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 9:00:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:00:21 PM" ) )3:00 PM yesterday
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gordon.. I thought they did the replacement of fuel and left fuel in that was going to continue to more burnup.. do they take all out and do that. .and then put the loaded back in?
by dean at 3/28/2011 9:00:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:00:13 PM" ) )3:00 PM yesterday
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Dumb question. How do you make the flag be your avatar?
by Yuri at 3/28/2011 8:59:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:59:36 PM" ) )2:59 PM yesterday
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by Arin at 3/28/2011 8:59:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:59:35 PM" ) )2:59 PM yesterday
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by Scillak at 3/28/2011 8:59:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:59:29 PM" ) )2:59 PM yesterday
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@Paul (UK) Thanks, It was MaryMarys idea.
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 8:58:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:58:21 PM" ) )2:58 PM yesterday
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@Pedro Jesus: very good and valid point, thank you.
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:57:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:57:38 PM" ) )2:57 PM yesterday
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en.wikipedia.org check this out for the types of reactor grade Plutonium used in reactors versus detonation testing
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:57:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:57:38 PM" ) )2:57 PM yesterday
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Hey, good idea the flag avatars George, just spotted the link about it at the top of the page. Can see at a glance where people on the board are from. Just testing mine :) Tons of flags on the link you gave. Come on all you 'silhouette' people, may as well wear your flag instead - only takes a few seconds.
by Paul (UK) at 3/28/2011 8:57:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:57:28 PM" ) )2:57 PM yesterday
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I think the light is a reflection of something burning, a yellow light at night looks green
by oli333 at 3/28/2011 8:57:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:57:21 PM" ) )2:57 PM yesterday
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@dean Contrary to normal practice in the US, it is common in the Japanese nuclear industry to remove and replace the total fuel assembly as one unit. It has been a major concern of many US industry commentators for decades.
by Gordon at 3/28/2011 8:57:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:57:09 PM" ) )2:57 PM yesterday
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@dean Must be 32 Large rods
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 8:56:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:56:56 PM" ) )2:56 PM yesterday
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@Tenzing Or when it is scientifically confirmed in order to avoid further mistakes from their part.
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 8:56:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:56:31 PM" ) )2:56 PM yesterday
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@dean You are making me work
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 8:55:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:55:37 PM" ) )2:55 PM yesterday
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GOOD FIND NHK.. so now.. how many in the core of the reactor also
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:55:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:55:11 PM" ) )2:55 PM yesterday
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@dean regardibng TEPCO Pu sampling, I'm looking at
www.atsdr.cdc.gov (Toxicological Profile For Plutonium, U.S. Department Of Health And Human Services, November 2010) around page 176 and don't see much science regarding Pu238 / 239 & 240 ratios and emmissions events. Just thought you might know off the top of your head...
by DennisV at 3/28/2011 8:54:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:54:56 PM" ) )2:54 PM yesterday
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The reactor pressure, temperature and water level curves are pinned at the very top of this page, the link says Plots of reactor data - Fukushima Daiichi - Units #1--#3 www.ic.unicamp.br -- and yes indeed they are very interesting.
by Sky at 3/28/2011 8:54:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:54:40 PM" ) )2:54 PM yesterday
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yes Tenzing...
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:54:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:54:40 PM" ) )2:54 PM yesterday
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According to Tokyo Electric, 32 of the 514 fuel rod assemblies in the storage pond at reactor No. 3 contain mox.
www.nytimes.comby NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 8:54:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:54:36 PM" ) )2:54 PM yesterday
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there is a bridge crane over the spent fuel pool that is green and I believe that's it.. unless some one disagrees or has other thoughts
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:54:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:54:26 PM" ) )2:54 PM yesterday
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@Dean: I have to ask this ;) have you ever been to the Idaho National Laboratory? They have tours don't they?
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:54:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:54:23 PM" ) )2:54 PM yesterday
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Here is a timeline of events at Fukushima...
en.wikipedia.org It is current through yesterday at this time, but I assume it will be kept up to date...
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 8:54:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:54:04 PM" ) )2:54 PM yesterday
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I belive the green in the videos is of the spent fuel canal crane..
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:53:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:53:37 PM" ) )2:53 PM yesterday
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@Peter Melzer : so the pressure in #1 dropped before the tsunami ?
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 8:52:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:52:59 PM" ) )2:52 PM yesterday
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@dean, thanks. I am not an engineer, but sometimes I just sense significance, don't ask me how.
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 8:52:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:52:48 PM" ) )2:52 PM yesterday
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@Pedro Jesus: seemingly false as in uncertain if the information is accurate do to lack of disclosure and forthcomingness, information that is made ready when wanted or needed.
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:51:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:51:22 PM" ) )2:51 PM yesterday
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as the decay is going down
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:50:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:50:23 PM" ) )2:50 PM yesterday
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like energy is lost over time..
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:50:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:50:18 PM" ) )2:50 PM yesterday
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about l i can say off the cuff is the activity ration of fresh plutonium found is greater that that which has been around since testing and atmosphere brought particles of Pu in same areas..
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:49:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:49:53 PM" ) )2:49 PM yesterday
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by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 8:48:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:48:32 PM" ) )2:48 PM yesterday
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@Tenzing Yea, that I have absolutely no clue.
by Natalie at 3/28/2011 8:47:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:47:13 PM" ) )2:47 PM yesterday
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@Tenzing If we disregard the two mistakes they have made with a couple of readings and that have been corrected within a couple of days, what false information are you talking about?
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 8:47:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:47:10 PM" ) )2:47 PM yesterday
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@dean, then they must be able to reconstruct the time line of events for all kinds of parameters during the first hours after the quake hit, right? Until the lights went out, of course.
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 8:46:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:46:56 PM" ) )2:46 PM yesterday
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@dean / peter : please, a link to the pressure curves ?
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 8:46:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:46:19 PM" ) )2:46 PM yesterday
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@Natalie I'm referring to the green in this video, not the tempco webcam
www.youtube.comby Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:46:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:46:17 PM" ) )2:46 PM yesterday
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@elise I guess my point is because of the seemingly false information coming from TEMPCO why are we so willing to believe the information about where the MOX fuel is/was located?
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:45:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:45:19 PM" ) )2:45 PM yesterday
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taking a minut to read everything.. whewwwwwwww
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:45:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:45:19 PM" ) )2:45 PM yesterday
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by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:44:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:44:59 PM" ) )2:44 PM yesterday
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I wish they would say what the isotope of pu they found.. they can take a soil sample and put it in a multi channel analyzer to give the energy levels and pinpoint the isotope
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:44:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:44:24 PM" ) )2:44 PM yesterday
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Not sure if this has been posted before. A pretty detailed wikipedia article on what happens when corium is formed and melts through the RPV. Answered my question from yesterday "
the dynamics of the movement of corium in and outside of the reactor vessel is highly complex, and the number of possible scenarios is wide; slow drip of melt into an underlying water pool can result in complete quenching, while a fast contact of large mass of corium with water may result in destructive steam explosion."
en.wikipedia.org(nuclear_reactor)
by Jay77 at 3/28/2011 8:44:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:44:21 PM" ) )2:44 PM yesterday
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@Tenzing img.photobucket.com Same image pushed even farther, showing that all of the artifacts that appear are green. Which is why I don't see any reason to be concerned that its green.
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Natalie via
Img.photobucket at 3/28/2011 8:43:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:43:43 PM" ) )2:43 PM yesterday
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Dennis.. I'll write that question down and have to research it more..
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:43:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:43:41 PM" ) )2:43 PM yesterday
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@dean They give themselves away in one of their supporting documents though:
www.tepco.co.jp Down at the bottom it states: "thus these Pus are considered to come from the recent incident"
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:42:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:42:33 PM" ) )2:42 PM yesterday
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@Meretisa : i don't know at all.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 8:42:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:42:27 PM" ) )2:42 PM yesterday
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@dean@Natalie what do you think of green in this video this
www.youtube.comby Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:42:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:42:23 PM" ) )2:42 PM yesterday
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@tenzing: mox fuel was loaded into reactor #3'adter a long debate within the prefecture. the article I read was dated august 20 2010 fo approval. it was then loaded in the fall sometime.
by elise at 3/28/2011 8:42:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:42:17 PM" ) )2:42 PM yesterday
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@dean -- question: regarding ratio of Pu238 to 239/240, can you extrapolate any meaningful information for us from the TEPCO Pu samplings?
by DennisV at 3/28/2011 8:42:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:42:15 PM" ) )2:42 PM yesterday
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i was wondering if the absense of water moderating the fast neutrons to thermal neutrons could allow the P240 and 242 in the older fuel asssemblies to udergo an increased rate of fission.
by Treiagonaut at 3/28/2011 8:42:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:42:01 PM" ) )2:42 PM yesterday
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The others weren't inspected/certified for MOX, IIRC. Apparently #3 just went to Mox this past fall:
www.nucpros.comby Markfm at 3/28/2011 8:41:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:41:28 PM" ) )2:41 PM yesterday
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by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 8:41:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:41:02 PM" ) )2:41 PM yesterday
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@Tenzing I have absolutely no clue. Like I said, I think the coloration is because its dark. And it just happened to pick up a small bit of green. It happens a lot when you try to brighten really dark images. Areas will pick up artifacts of green. I don't think the green part is anything to worry about. I was more interested in the glow in general.
by Natalie at 3/28/2011 8:40:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:40:49 PM" ) )2:40 PM yesterday
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Peter,,, I want to take my hat off to you .. for getting that data on the pressure curves which was such an important find.. WAY TO GO MAN..
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:40:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:40:36 PM" ) )2:40 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko What kind of presentation of data would help you guys understand this better? Seeing all of the elements found in the reactor over time, pressure in each reactor over time, heat, radiation readings, ?
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:40:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:40:35 PM" ) )2:40 PM yesterday
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@Nancy see dean comment @1:32
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:40:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:40:26 PM" ) )2:40 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko could it be due to being covered by boronwater?? could that shift color?
by Meretisa at 3/28/2011 8:40:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:40:24 PM" ) )2:40 PM yesterday
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Radiation detected in NEOhio
www.newsnet5.com ...had to chuckle at the second paragraph...According to a news release from CWRU, Professor Gerald Matisoff detected tiny amounts of iodine-131 on the top of the A.W. Smith Building, but said the presence of it is not dangerous to humans.
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 8:40:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:40:22 PM" ) )2:40 PM yesterday
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Tenzing.. I'm not certain of what has to be done to a reactor in total to burn mox fuel but the others were not burning any of it... would haev to research that
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:39:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:39:48 PM" ) )2:39 PM yesterday
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@Nancy : if it is true that the now found plutonium caused the "neutron beams" i am willing to believe that #3 glows in the dark ..... but the glowing seemed green, cherenko light is blue.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 8:39:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:39:17 PM" ) )2:39 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko, this must have taken them that long. Alpha analyses may be technically quite involved. Perhaps they had to send the samples somewhere offsite. When I watch the press conferences, I often feel they know more, but won't say anything, because they are not sure yet, and then, of course, the tell you only what they must.
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 8:39:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:39:01 PM" ) )2:39 PM yesterday
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I didn't like the report saying.. oh well . there have been readings from past nuclear detonations of Plutonium... dang it.. this isn't before .. this is now and every effort needs to be done to prove.. it's NOT from the reactor accidents ...
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:39:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:39:01 PM" ) )2:39 PM yesterday
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@dean right, That is what TEMPCO states. My question is can you use MOX in any of the other reactors, do they require some form of modification to use MOX fuel, if not how do we know MOX isn't in they other reactors?
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:38:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:38:53 PM" ) )2:38 PM yesterday
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@tenzig, #4 was empty. Only rods in the sfp
by Nancy at 3/28/2011 8:37:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:37:45 PM" ) )2:37 PM yesterday
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Treiagonaut.. as far as I know they are thermal neutron reactors
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:37:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:37:31 PM" ) )2:37 PM yesterday
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So SNL a skit on " How to date Pu" " Japanese dating Pu" " Would you like to date some Pu" I know I;m topic and raving mad, but these TEPCO guys trying to weasel their way out of Plutonium in the soil (as normal, background radiation) got to me!
by quantman07 at 3/28/2011 8:37:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:37:19 PM" ) )2:37 PM yesterday
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@Treiagonaut I don't think so. Not sure of your question
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 8:37:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:37:17 PM" ) )2:37 PM yesterday
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Tenzing.. reactor and core on one in the same.. inside the reactor metal vessel
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:37:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:37:02 PM" ) )2:37 PM yesterday
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not sure on that questions NHK.. I assume they would put a mixture of NEW fuel and recycled fuel in ...
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:36:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:36:12 PM" ) )2:36 PM yesterday
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@NHK Listener Could a dry BWR reactor be considered a fast neutron reactor ?
by Treiagonaut at 3/28/2011 8:36:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:36:10 PM" ) )2:36 PM yesterday
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by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:35:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:35:54 PM" ) )2:35 PM yesterday
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no mox fuel in #4 I thought the only reactor that has MOX fuel was #3
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:35:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:35:32 PM" ) )2:35 PM yesterday
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Just to lighten the thread............Here's some more fodder for an SNL kit (suggested a few yesterday with Edano, NISA, Kan et al).
by quantman07 at 3/28/2011 8:34:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:34:49 PM" ) )2:34 PM yesterday
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hi Peter.. good seeing you .. they don't have black boxes but.. they have very sophisicated computer systems for gathering data and printing out sequence of events...
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:34:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:34:40 PM" ) )2:34 PM yesterday
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@dean in the reactor/core?
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:34:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:34:40 PM" ) )2:34 PM yesterday
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@dean What were they going to load in number 4?\
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 8:34:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:34:09 PM" ) )2:34 PM yesterday
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@dean does that mean there may have been fuel in NO. 4?
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:33:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:33:59 PM" ) )2:33 PM yesterday
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I thought the other day we came to the conclusion that the MOX fuel was in the reactor and not in the spent fuel pool.. however I'd have to confirm that. .
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:33:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:33:26 PM" ) )2:33 PM yesterday
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@matsuoko, makes me wonder about the artifacts on the night shots.
by Nancy at 3/28/2011 8:32:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:32:50 PM" ) )2:32 PM yesterday
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TENZING, the only reason I can possibly think of for discharge of all the fuel would be some sort of inservice inspection in the core other than that.. they usually only discharge and replace 1/3 of the fuel or so
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:32:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:32:48 PM" ) )2:32 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko Spent nuclear fuel from normal light water reactors contains Plutonium, but it is a mixture of Plutonium-242, 240, 239 and 238. The mixture is not sufficiently enriched for efficient nuclear weapons, but can be used once as MOX fuel. Accidental neutron capture causes the amount of Plutonium-242 and 240 to grow each time the Plutonium is irradiated in a reactor with low-speed "thermal" neutrons, so that after the second cycle, the Plutonium can only be consumed by fast neutron reactors.
en.wikipedia.orgby NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 8:32:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:32:42 PM" ) )2:32 PM yesterday
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by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 8:32:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:32:38 PM" ) )2:32 PM yesterday
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Hey Dean, are reactors equipped with a black box like airplanes?
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 8:32:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:32:15 PM" ) )2:32 PM yesterday
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@Peter Melzer : i remember the neutron beams but i did not connect them with the recent findings. this all is strange. i think they know much more than they admit us to know.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 8:31:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:31:57 PM" ) )2:31 PM yesterday
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by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:31:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:31:38 PM" ) )2:31 PM yesterday
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MARIE.. I didn't get a chance to spend a whole lot of time as I had meetings until I came for lunch.. .i will ask them tho... if we look at the evidence on what happened at #2 I'd say... combination of the quake damage and the explosion and subsequent fuel melt
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:31:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:31:19 PM" ) )2:31 PM yesterday
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last picture and an older one combined (position of steam visible) i.imgur.com
by
ifz via
I.imgur at 3/28/2011 8:30:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:30:59 PM" ) )2:30 PM yesterday
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Hope you don't get mad site-wise, but National Volunteer Fire Council
www.nvfc.org has set up a fund for Japanses Firefighters Association. (following up on NHK video of son of a firefighter that who died trying to get the Tsunami gates closed).
by Pat at 3/28/2011 8:30:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:30:35 PM" ) )2:30 PM yesterday
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No way, central NY, just Idaho tickled my one or two remaining brain cells.
by Markfm at 3/28/2011 8:30:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:30:25 PM" ) )2:30 PM yesterday
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@MaryMary Not as alarming as you think. The artifacts that show up if you push it further are also green. So the color might be coming from that.
by Natalie at 3/28/2011 8:30:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:30:22 PM" ) )2:30 PM yesterday
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yes markfm.. are you in IDAHO too
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:29:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:29:43 PM" ) )2:29 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko, in my understanding they must have surveyed the plant premises with a crude detection method first. Remember last week, when the first reports on the neutron "beams" came out? Japanese news reported more than five occurrences recorded at a distance to the reactor buildings of 1,500m. After that survey, they must have collected samples from the hottest sites for detailed analysis and now they have got the results.
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 8:29:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:29:16 PM" ) )2:29 PM yesterday
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@dean are you aware of what type of maintenance would have been taking place on reactor No. 4 at time of quake/tusnami? Also in reactor No. 3 are there MOX rods in the SFP and is it possible that MOX could be in any of the other reactors besides No. 3? Thanks
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:29:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:29:02 PM" ) )2:29 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko OK, so this might be a more localized exposure of Pu due to the low water in the spent fuel pool?
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:28:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:28:11 PM" ) )2:28 PM yesterday
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@Natalie ....uuuuhhhh...that's alarming....that is definately green
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 8:27:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:27:24 PM" ) )2:27 PM yesterday
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Idaho, home of the INL.
by Markfm at 3/28/2011 8:26:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:26:50 PM" ) )2:26 PM yesterday
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@dean Hi, sure you'll be bombarded soon, so let me ask quick. Did your peers have any ideas what might have caused#2 torus to rupture?
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 8:26:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:26:37 PM" ) )2:26 PM yesterday
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yes.. veen.. it's 2:26 my time p.m. here
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:26:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:26:12 PM" ) )2:26 PM yesterday
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img.photobucket.com That is what I was getting when I adjusted the levels in Photoshop. Sorry for the delay, had to ask my teacher something.
by
Natalie via
Img.photobucket at 3/28/2011 8:26:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:26:08 PM" ) )2:26 PM yesterday
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@Jojo : from a core breach or from a melting fuel pool.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 8:26:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:26:08 PM" ) )2:26 PM yesterday
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@dean Oh, hey Dean :-)
Was just wondering of TZ when you will be back from meeting....since you just up and left this AM
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 8:25:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:25:17 PM" ) )2:25 PM yesterday
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when dating pu what is the time range years or can they tell if it was expelled within a few days.. ie the equake 3/11 vs the expolosion vs last year?
by fitter at 3/28/2011 8:25:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:25:14 PM" ) )2:25 PM yesterday
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hello to all.. VEEN I saw your question about where I am from.. I live in USA in Idaho
by dean at 3/28/2011 8:24:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:24:21 PM" ) )2:24 PM yesterday
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@elainekirk The 5 soil samples in question were taken on the 21ST and 22ND according to TEPCO. And the Pu readings are available on their website and have been posted and reposted here several times. No trace of Strontium has been found so far.
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 8:24:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:24:18 PM" ) )2:24 PM yesterday
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@janet-k We know, if you scroll down, we post pictures every hour :-)
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 8:24:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:24:11 PM" ) )2:24 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko So is this Pu represent a container breach with an "active" (don't know the term) core? If so could this Pu be wherever the Iodine/Cesium is MILES from the plant as part of the radioactive gas they vented?
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:23:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:23:54 PM" ) )2:23 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko I asked this question before I will look it up again
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 8:23:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:23:36 PM" ) )2:23 PM yesterday
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dawn on the tepco webcam- amazing the smoke/steam that can be seen:
www.tepco.co.jpby janet-k at 3/28/2011 8:23:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:23:28 PM" ) )2:23 PM yesterday
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@NHK Listener : if pu240 is found, it cannot come from an "unburnt" rod. pu240 is a fission (chain reaction) product.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 8:22:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:22:29 PM" ) )2:22 PM yesterday
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@VeenOui From what I have seen, TEPCO was hedging on WHERE the Pu was from: I saw news reports (CNN) suggesting it might be from background Pu (atomic testing). Clearly it's from this incident.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:22:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:22:22 PM" ) )2:22 PM yesterday
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by Jill in Sweden at 3/28/2011 8:21:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:21:53 PM" ) )2:21 PM yesterday
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by janet-k at 3/28/2011 8:21:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:21:34 PM" ) )2:21 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko And it was the SAME activity level .5 km and .75 km. That can't be good either.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:21:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:21:19 PM" ) )2:21 PM yesterday
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@Jojo nono, this is just to give a certain point for the distance.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 8:20:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:20:37 PM" ) )2:20 PM yesterday
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@Jill in Sweden Thank you.
by Meretisa at 3/28/2011 8:20:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:20:29 PM" ) )2:20 PM yesterday
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@Jojo i think you are right. it seems they only took 5 samples. so they found pu in every single sample. this is bad.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 8:20:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:20:03 PM" ) )2:20 PM yesterday
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Can I put forward the suggestion that figures for strontium and plutonium are not being published because from what I can find the area did have some contamination from previous atomic testing and they are dating the samples???
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 8:19:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:19:46 PM" ) )2:19 PM yesterday
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@Jojo I thought everyone knew that ??
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 8:19:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:19:36 PM" ) )2:19 PM yesterday
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@NHK Listener In their measurements, their distance is "from unit 1 /unit 2 exhaust stack". Perhaps they suspect Unit 2 of spewing Pu and so tested for that.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:19:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:19:34 PM" ) )2:19 PM yesterday
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english.kyodonews.jp: headline: Plutonium Detected In Soil At Kukushima Nuke Plant, March 29,2011
by MaryW at 3/28/2011 8:19:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:19:07 PM" ) )2:19 PM yesterday
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I thing this steam/smoke from 4 reactor
by oli333 at 3/28/2011 8:18:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:18:59 PM" ) )2:18 PM yesterday
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@Jojo taking my time to post now;-) yes I agree totally -@Meretisa
bit.ly it is in Swedish and I don't know if Google Translate is good enough (eg mil in Swedish means 10 km and sometimes gets translated to miles)
by Jill in Sweden at 3/28/2011 8:18:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:18:37 PM" ) )2:18 PM yesterday
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@VeenOui Man, that is NOT good news. If they are distributing that NOW, they are betting FOR having to use them.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:18:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:18:35 PM" ) )2:18 PM yesterday
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looks like a fair amount of smoke/vapor rising in this photo
by fitter at 3/28/2011 8:18:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:18:31 PM" ) )2:18 PM yesterday
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@Jojo @Matsuoko Would be my guess that they could test anywhere around that site and find it. Could be from the spent fuel rods. Caused from the fire/explosion in 4 or from the explosions in 1 or 3
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 8:18:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:18:26 PM" ) )2:18 PM yesterday
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@suits Mar. 17: "The US Navy's 7th Fleet said '100 nuclear, biological, chemical (NBC) firefighting suits and masks were delivered from the USS George Washington to the government of Japan this morning for use at the Fukushima power plant.' "..."The US Energy Department's National Nuclear Security Administration has reportedly sent 33 experts to Japan with 7,700kg of equipment to assist Japanese authorities.
The US experts will help monitor and survey areas of the country for possible radiation.
www.straitstimes.com See if I can find out what they're doing.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 8:18:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:18:13 PM" ) )2:18 PM yesterday
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March 26 American Embassy in Tokyo Begins Distributing Potassium Iodide
flyjin.comby VeenOui at 3/28/2011 8:17:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:17:36 PM" ) )2:17 PM yesterday
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Here is a map of where they took samples. Fartherst away was 1 km
www.tepco.co.jp by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:17:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:17:08 PM" ) )2:17 PM yesterday
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taken just after midnight BST on the 28th
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 8:16:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:16:45 PM" ) )2:16 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko -- they only published 5 samples that I've seen, and 3 of the samples were missing Pu238...
by DennisV at 3/28/2011 8:16:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:16:38 PM" ) )2:16 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko According to TEPCO 5 samples were tested and 3 of them will be retested to try and ascertain the origin of the Pu.
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 8:16:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:16:30 PM" ) )2:16 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko I think they only did 5 samples, because on another link they show the locations of each of the 5. THey found Pu in all 5.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:16:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:16:05 PM" ) )2:16 PM yesterday
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by dtinla at 3/28/2011 8:15:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:15:00 PM" ) )2:15 PM yesterday
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still i don't know if they found plutonium in ALL samples (5 of 5) or just in 5 of 5000. this makes a bit difference. you cannot estimate if they just found some hotspots accidentally or if a wider area is contaminated.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 8:14:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:14:55 PM" ) )2:14 PM yesterday
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Does anyone know where Dean is from ?
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 8:14:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:14:32 PM" ) )2:14 PM yesterday
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by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 8:13:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:13:43 PM" ) )2:13 PM yesterday
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Great page for biologicaleffects of ionizing radiation. My prior post was faulty.
web.princeton.edu by LM at 3/28/2011 8:12:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:12:46 PM" ) )2:12 PM yesterday
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@DennisV Absolutely. This link is buried on a sub-page in a tiny footnote at the bottom, and it's only in passing that they admit the plutonium is from "the incident". That said, cat's out of the bag now. It's plutonium from "the incident", so now the question is: how did it get there?
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:12:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:12:17 PM" ) )2:12 PM yesterday
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Last night was not of this light/steam
by oli333 at 3/28/2011 8:12:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:12:12 PM" ) )2:12 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko -- good point.
by DennisV at 3/28/2011 8:11:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:11:22 PM" ) )2:11 PM yesterday
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@DennisV : quite right. i may raise the question why they use Bq/kg soil and not Bq/m2 ? kg u only use for food. m2 would be much clearer because you will only find plutonium in the suface and not deep in the soil.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 8:10:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:10:24 PM" ) )2:10 PM yesterday
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@Jill in Sweden Having some difficulty posting....USG has stated the evacuation zone is 50 miles, which looks similar to Sweden's.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:10:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:10:15 PM" ) )2:10 PM yesterday
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@Jill in Sweden It's so tragic that the GoJ hasn't even recommended Iodine for kids living in surrounding towns.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:10:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:10:12 PM" ) )2:10 PM yesterday
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@ifz There was speculation earlier about a glowing spot in an otherwise black image from the tepco webcam - whether it was a digital artifact, a unicorn, chernekov radiation, etc.... turns out to have been steam.
by Jay77 at 3/28/2011 8:09:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:09:21 PM" ) )2:09 PM yesterday
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@Natalie. That is the 3rd incident of light in that area. More were found on a video of tepco camera shots someone compiled. It is really odd. A spotlight like from a fire truck shining into that area "could" create a light like that if there was enough moisture etc. in the air to create the circle where the light reflects. Otherwise it starts to get into the hmmm. territory. They are only using a concrete boom on one building. We need to figure out what area that is on the tepco cam. That would help sort out what it is. If that is nowhere near the unit they are using the concrete boom it may be something of interest.
by Nancy at 3/28/2011 8:09:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:09:15 PM" ) )2:09 PM yesterday
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@LM fail link / repost plz
by kgriff at 3/28/2011 8:09:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:09:14 PM" ) )2:09 PM yesterday
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@Jill in Sweden link please?? english version?? thanks
by Meretisa at 3/28/2011 8:08:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:08:57 PM" ) )2:08 PM yesterday
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Sorry again - new try @Jojo maybe you would be interested in the recommendations of Swedish Radiation Safety Authority All Swedes within 80 km should leave and those within 250 km should take Iodine
by Jill in Sweden at 3/28/2011 8:08:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:08:26 PM" ) )2:08 PM yesterday
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@Jojo -- my other thought, fwiw, was that the statement was relatively technical and the masses would be baffled by the numbers, etc. So, for the record, the info was passed on but would not be understood.
by DennisV at 3/28/2011 8:08:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:08:11 PM" ) )2:08 PM yesterday
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@Natalie I think it might be a substantial plume of smoke/steam not an artifact. I don't remember seeing a plume this early before does anyone else?
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 8:07:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:07:49 PM" ) )2:07 PM yesterday
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@natalie artifact?
by ifz at 3/28/2011 8:07:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:07:32 PM" ) )2:07 PM yesterday
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Yes this is steam on tepco cam.
by oli333 at 3/28/2011 8:06:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:06:45 PM" ) )2:06 PM yesterday
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The artifact I was picking up was near that little light plume of steam. I"m not sure if it was exactly one top of it. But it was near there. @VeenOui
by Natalie at 3/28/2011 8:06:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:06:00 PM" ) )2:06 PM yesterday
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@robots Just out 1 hour ago.
www.benzinga.com "QinetiQ North America Sends Unmanned Systems to Japan"
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 8:06:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:06:00 PM" ) )2:06 PM yesterday
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by LM at 3/28/2011 8:05:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:05:44 PM" ) )2:05 PM yesterday
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Sorry keep hitting return key and all Swedes within 250 km should take Iodine
by Jill in Sweden at 3/28/2011 8:05:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:05:09 PM" ) )2:05 PM yesterday
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VeenOui via
Pointscope01.jp at 3/28/2011 8:05:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:05:08 PM" ) )2:05 PM yesterday
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@Karen Warren I thought it might just be an artifact, but it showed up before the other artifacts did. @Nancy The latest image from tepco's camera. But I'm thinking now that it may just be some form of artifact, or just work lights.
by Natalie at 3/28/2011 8:04:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:04:37 PM" ) )2:04 PM yesterday
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@you All Swedes within 80 km should leave
by Jill in Sweden at 3/28/2011 8:04:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:04:35 PM" ) )2:04 PM yesterday
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by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:04:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:04:28 PM" ) )2:04 PM yesterday
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For any who would like to show their national flag as an avatar, they are available here.. commons.wikipedia.org To add an avatar: logout, then use the Avatar browse (just left of the Login button) then log back in
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 8:04:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:04:26 PM" ) )2:04 PM yesterday
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by lisat131 at 3/28/2011 8:02:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:02:49 PM" ) )2:02 PM yesterday
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Has anyone found data to indicate what the evaporation rate for that trench was, and given the time (15 days?), how much radiation has gone into the air just from that trench?
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:02:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:02:44 PM" ) )2:02 PM yesterday
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@Jojo -- my thought also. the admission was amizingly transparent.
by DennisV at 3/28/2011 8:02:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:02:43 PM" ) )2:02 PM yesterday
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first light
by lisat131 at 3/28/2011 8:02:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:02:37 PM" ) )2:02 PM yesterday
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I have a link to boric acid and freshwater being injected into Unit 2, but scribble keeps saying my message looks like spam.
by dtinla at 3/28/2011 8:02:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:02:15 PM" ) )2:02 PM yesterday
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they do not say how many samples they have taken (5 out of 5 or 5 out of 5000 ?) and they do not say if they took just the soil surface.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 8:02:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:02:03 PM" ) )2:02 PM yesterday
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Comprehensive site for biological effects of ionizing radiation
by LM at 3/28/2011 8:01:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:01:49 PM" ) )2:01 PM yesterday
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@DennisV Obviously the report wasn't prepared by a TEPCO official, or it would have been "may have come from this incident". Had to be a regular guy doing his job. :)
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:01:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:01:44 PM" ) )2:01 PM yesterday
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"
But that dangerous scenario looked likely to happen when TEPCO later told reporters that radiated water had been found in an area called “the trench” outside the No. 2 turbine building the day before. NISA’s Nishiyama later described the trench to reporters as a deep concrete tunnel used to carry electric cables and pipes for the turbine room. Originally he said the cables and pipes had been laid on the ground, but to prevent accidents they were housed inside this tunnel. At one end of the trench there is 16-meter shaft with an inspection manhole and when the manhole was removed, water was found to have leaked into the trench and risen “to a height of 14.9 meters and is increasing,” Nishiyama said. Radiation readings were taken and found to be more than 1000 millisieverts per hour on the surface—similar to the radiation found pooling in the turbine room, from where it has presumably leaked." full article in Spectrum ieee
spectrum.ieee.orgby elainekirk at 3/28/2011 8:01:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:01:20 PM" ) )2:01 PM yesterday
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@Natalie, that is a good thought. Unless, you know the part of the spectrum you are interested in, gray scale may work best.
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 8:00:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:00:51 PM" ) )2:00 PM yesterday
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@Jojo -- true...
by DennisV at 3/28/2011 8:00:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:00:39 PM" ) )2:00 PM yesterday
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Kyodo News: TOKYO, March 28, Kyodo
The government on Monday urged residents of the 20-kilometer exclusion zone around the quake-stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant not to return for the time being.
''It is very likely that anywhere within 20 km of the plant is contaminated and there is a big risk (to human health) at the moment,'' Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told a news conference, stressing that residents should not enter the area before the government gives the green light to do so.
by oli333 at 3/28/2011 8:00:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:00:38 PM" ) )2:00 PM yesterday
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@DennisV Actually, in their own link
www.tepco.co.jp they don't even equivocate. They state: "those Pus are considered to come from this incident".
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 8:00:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 8:00:05 PM" ) )2:00 PM yesterday
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@Markfm True but what data they produce may be classified based on capabilities.. Just a thought
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 7:59:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:59:50 PM" ) )1:59 PM yesterday
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@Jojo they're saying that the artio of Pu238 to 239/240 is disproportionate to historical fallout, and are "admitting" that it may be a result of the incident. I find the absence of Pu238 readings from sites 2, 3 and 4 disturbing.
by DennisV at 3/28/2011 7:58:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:58:53 PM" ) )1:58 PM yesterday
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@NHK Listener I don't know, it doesn't specify in the article. And it was 50 MILES, not km. The FOIA was asking why they needed such a HUGE area of evacuation, when Japan was recommending only a 12 mile radius.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:58:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:58:28 PM" ) )1:58 PM yesterday
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@Natalie. I just came back. What image, what are you looking for. I might be able to photomanipulate and pull something out.
by Nancy at 3/28/2011 7:58:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:58:11 PM" ) )1:58 PM yesterday
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GlbalHawk isn't classically set for radiation monitoring -- it's a radar and camera package. Constant Phoenix is the radiation sniffer.
by Markfm at 3/28/2011 7:58:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:58:10 PM" ) )1:58 PM yesterday
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commons.wikimedia.org
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 7:57:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:57:58 PM" ) )1:57 PM yesterday
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@Richard @Reuters: No TV - I see a story in the making... go for it. We promise to read it... :-) @Natalie: I worked in x-ray (CT/MRI) and I believe that it's an artifact. It happens in medical imaging too.
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 7:57:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:57:42 PM" ) )1:57 PM yesterday
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@Jojo Data obtained by Globalhawk?
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 7:56:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:56:36 PM" ) )1:56 PM yesterday
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@NHK Listener Not sure, that's possible. I haven't heard any update to it. The impetus of the FOIA request was that the USG wanted an evacuation zone of 50 miles (km?) as a result of the data.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:56:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:56:01 PM" ) )1:56 PM yesterday
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@Jojo FOIAs typically take some time to process, especially if the questioned group doesn't want to answer.
by James Ward at 3/28/2011 7:55:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:55:25 PM" ) )1:55 PM yesterday
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@Natalie If you go 4 hours back, images and Video collage was posted......interesting post's .
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:54:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:54:51 PM" ) )1:54 PM yesterday
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@Jojo Some of it was from a drone that is classified by its nature?
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 7:54:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:54:37 PM" ) )1:54 PM yesterday
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@ SKy : Japan refuse the help of french robots, judging there were inadequates for such environment, and would be able to operate them
by Daedelus at 3/28/2011 7:54:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:54:15 PM" ) )1:54 PM yesterday
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@Sky Okay. It was just a random thought I had that maybe you could see something by changing the contrast in the image. I wasn't sure if it had been brought up or not yet. Thank you.
by Natalie at 3/28/2011 7:53:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:53:24 PM" ) )1:53 PM yesterday
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Has anyone seen the update to this?
www.vancouverobserver.com They files a FOIA act to get the DOE data they took over Japan. Why won't they release that?
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:52:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:52:51 PM" ) )1:52 PM yesterday
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@Yuri without boron water could increase reactor power and temperature, water is moderator so its slow down neutrons
by john at 3/28/2011 7:52:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:52:49 PM" ) )1:52 PM yesterday
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@Sky Sounds like we need someone to sniff this out. I'll try and be back.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 7:51:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:51:58 PM" ) )1:51 PM yesterday
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@Natalie, that has been discussed a lot, some 6-8 hours ago and some several days prior. I think the consensus was that we cannot really any anything worthwhile out of looking for glows in the nighttime webcam images.
by Sky at 3/28/2011 7:51:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:51:45 PM" ) )1:51 PM yesterday
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@Yuri: When they were using seawater, afaik it was borated as well.
by sims at 3/28/2011 7:51:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:51:13 PM" ) )1:51 PM yesterday
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@Natalie It went off at 7pm JST. If you look close enough I can see unicorns.
by gabe at 3/28/2011 7:51:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:51:02 PM" ) )1:51 PM yesterday
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I suspect by "you" you mean me (Markfm) -- something weird in how my posts are going through. Yes, the levels are measurable, but apparently still reasonably small, and TEPCO acknowledges that they are from things happening at the TEPCO site.
by Markfm at 3/28/2011 7:51:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:51:00 PM" ) )1:51 PM yesterday
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@Yuri Not sure. I don't know about the spent fool pools either.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:50:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:50:43 PM" ) )1:50 PM yesterday
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There has been no follow-up on the robots, radiation-protective suits, and other gear to help working in hazardous conditions that the media initially reported a few days after the nuclear accident was apparent. Could an inquisitive reporter could dig up info on what has happened to all these offers of help?
by Sky at 3/28/2011 7:50:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:50:07 PM" ) )1:50 PM yesterday
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I thought that they were only using fresh water on some of the reactors. It's still not clear if boron is being used.
by Yuri at 3/28/2011 7:50:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:50:00 PM" ) )1:50 PM yesterday
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Interesting thing coming out of the tepco camera. Even though it is dark, is it really turned off? If you take the image in to Photoshop and bring the levels out, you get a slight green glow. (Which may be because of the camera at night, because that's one of the two colors that come out, green and blue) But it looks like its near one of the reactors. It may just be a play of the image, but I was wondering if anyone had looked at that before.
by Natalie at 3/28/2011 7:49:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:49:49 PM" ) )1:49 PM yesterday
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by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 7:49:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:49:45 PM" ) )1:49 PM yesterday
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@Jojo Exactly
by gabe at 3/28/2011 7:49:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:49:09 PM" ) )1:49 PM yesterday
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@Yuri Isn't it freshwater now since the US has been providing that via aircraft carriers?
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:48:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:48:57 PM" ) )1:48 PM yesterday
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@Jim Carver Looks like it, I really am curious to see the more recent results. Hope fully they are <.5km-1km from Reactors we would get a clearer picture of actual release amounts.
by gabe at 3/28/2011 7:48:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:48:39 PM" ) )1:48 PM yesterday
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@you So what I (believe) this report
www.tepco.co.jp is saying is that the amount of Plutonium is small, but it's definitely OUR plutonium.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:48:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:48:27 PM" ) )1:48 PM yesterday
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by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 7:46:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:46:36 PM" ) )1:46 PM yesterday
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@erkan I agree.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:46:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:46:34 PM" ) )1:46 PM yesterday
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www.tepco.co.jp TEPCO admits plutonium is from recent incident. " thus those Pus are considered to come from the recent incident." So we can put to bed this is natural radiation, there has definitely been a release of Plutonium from this incident.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:45:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:45:45 PM" ) )1:45 PM yesterday
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I ahvent read any news reports about all the boron that the French sent to Japan. Is it assumed that the boron is being mixed with the seawater?
by Yuri at 3/28/2011 7:45:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:45:17 PM" ) )1:45 PM yesterday
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Plutonium should be from the same sources, just that as a heavier element it has less travel range.
by Markfm at 3/28/2011 7:45:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:45:14 PM" ) )1:45 PM yesterday
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Could everyone please abstain from social comments, such as "agree", "nice one" etc. The strength of the Reuters site was that they filtered out all useless comments. Here half of the comments are irrelevant. This distracts from the substance and from those comments that actually contribute something. I hope you now realize what enormous amount of work the Rueters team put into maintaining the blog. They took out all the nonsense. Please. this is not a chat club.
by erkan at 3/28/2011 7:44:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:44:48 PM" ) )1:44 PM yesterday
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@Pat Thank you for voicing what we'd all like some answers to!
by Lisa at 3/28/2011 7:44:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:44:46 PM" ) )1:44 PM yesterday
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by Bobby1 at 3/28/2011 7:43:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:43:59 PM" ) )1:43 PM yesterday
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@fiona I don't know, I'd defer to Matsuoko et al. on that. I believe all this radiation in outlying areas is from venting the radioactive gas + explosions(?) from before, but I don't know if that's the same cause of the plutonium.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:43:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:43:47 PM" ) )1:43 PM yesterday
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by gabe at 3/28/2011 7:43:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:43:38 PM" ) )1:43 PM yesterday
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@all I think he's lurking.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 7:43:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:43:06 PM" ) )1:43 PM yesterday
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@Pat - you have scared him off
by fiona at 3/28/2011 7:42:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:42:00 PM" ) )1:42 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko NP
by gabe at 3/28/2011 7:41:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:41:41 PM" ) )1:41 PM yesterday
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@Richard Baum @ Reuters Still awaiting your reply, The Japanese Govt pretty much turned over the disaster relief to the NGO's. Did this affect the ability to get sources? Why is the understanding from your point of view on the decreased coverage? Was ther any pressure about the radiation coverage?
by Pat at 3/28/2011 7:41:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:41:35 PM" ) )1:41 PM yesterday
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@George Gibb maybe use an off-site one, and have a link at the to gather the survey information you want for it?
by Natalie at 3/28/2011 7:41:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:41:24 PM" ) )1:41 PM yesterday
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@Salvador None [Strontium 90] detected (or reported to have been detected) so far.
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 7:41:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:41:18 PM" ) )1:41 PM yesterday
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@Jojo - but you wouldn't expect plutonium would you?
by fiona at 3/28/2011 7:41:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:41:07 PM" ) )1:41 PM yesterday
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@gabe thanks a lot. finally something !
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 7:40:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:40:40 PM" ) )1:40 PM yesterday
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I wish I could program some surveys in the Scibble API =(
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 7:40:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:40:35 PM" ) )1:40 PM yesterday
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@jojo thank you for explaining it so well
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 7:40:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:40:29 PM" ) )1:40 PM yesterday
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@George Gibb Yes, the number of people with no TV amazed me.......
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:39:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:39:56 PM" ) )1:39 PM yesterday
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by gabe at 3/28/2011 7:39:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:39:28 PM" ) )1:39 PM yesterday
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I have found a few interesting things about the group, probably one of the most interesting items was the number of people who do not watch tv.
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 7:39:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:39:13 PM" ) )1:39 PM yesterday
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@Matsuoko Yes, the only stats I have seen is for Iodine 131 and Cesium 137. Is that just the easiest to measure, the most common, they wouldn't find anything else, ?
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:38:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:38:40 PM" ) )1:38 PM yesterday
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@Karen - Nice one
by fiona at 3/28/2011 7:37:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:37:44 PM" ) )1:37 PM yesterday
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@Jojo everything but plutonium ....
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 7:37:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:37:42 PM" ) )1:37 PM yesterday
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Mine was a joke :-)
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:37:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:37:32 PM" ) )1:37 PM yesterday
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@Jojo agree 100%
by fiona at 3/28/2011 7:37:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:37:11 PM" ) )1:37 PM yesterday
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@Jojo Thanks!
by Meretisa at 3/28/2011 7:37:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:37:04 PM" ) )1:37 PM yesterday
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@fiona It's in the water, in the air, on the food. They need to evacuate those people.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:36:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:36:42 PM" ) )1:36 PM yesterday
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@Richard Baum: If one of your journalists writes an award-winning piece based on info that's extrapolated from this feed, please make sure that George gets a credit... :-)
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 7:36:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:36:33 PM" ) )1:36 PM yesterday
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@VeenOui It seems this board has been useful for letting people express themselves. We have learned much from one another and most commenters have been self moderating.
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 7:36:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:36:21 PM" ) )1:36 PM yesterday
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by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:36:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:36:19 PM" ) )1:36 PM yesterday
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by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:35:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:35:53 PM" ) )1:35 PM yesterday
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What we are seeing now are higher CESIUM levels as the Iodine levels fade but the radiation continues.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:35:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:35:33 PM" ) )1:35 PM yesterday
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@Jojo - just makes you wonder how many villages and people that applies too.
by fiona at 3/28/2011 7:35:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:35:28 PM" ) )1:35 PM yesterday
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@Jojo link please?
by Meretisa at 3/28/2011 7:35:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:35:20 PM" ) )1:35 PM yesterday
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@fiona They just posted the release for spinach in Iitate Village, it's the highest reading yet for Cesium (not Iodine). 2,870,000 Bq/ Kg. That is freakin' amazing, I have never seen levels so high. I think the limit for Japan is 500 Bq / kg, this is 2870000 Bq / kg.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:34:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:34:31 PM" ) )1:34 PM yesterday
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@Richard Baum @ Reuters I am not saying you should BUT it would be nice to have some of you guys in private posting....
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:34:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:34:15 PM" ) )1:34 PM yesterday
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@Richard Baum @ Reuters I have a buring question...It seems like to me all US media dropped the story at the same time... What is your perception about what happened? Why did all major news agencies sign off at seemingly the same time? Were they following the lead on some one particualr agency? What was the talk and the word on the story?
by Pat at 3/28/2011 7:33:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:33:36 PM" ) )1:33 PM yesterday
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Press Release (Mar 28,2011)
Detection of radioactive material in the soil in Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station
www.tepco.co.jpby NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 7:32:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:32:57 PM" ) )1:32 PM yesterday
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@Jojo - well i will be polite and not write what I think of that....
by fiona at 3/28/2011 7:32:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:32:46 PM" ) )1:32 PM yesterday
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@George Gibb You should clarify BOARD ISSUE.........God knows, many here have Issues ....lol
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:32:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:32:45 PM" ) )1:32 PM yesterday
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It's still our lead story on Reuters.com. Business as usual in the Tokyo bureau. One of my colleagues in NYC has just landed in Tokyo to help out.
by Richard Baum @ Reuters at 3/28/2011 7:32:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:32:22 PM" ) )1:32 PM yesterday
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@sheilatoulouse OK thanks. Also might be less fear because France doesn't have any radiation from Fukushima, we are already seeing some in the US.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:32:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:32:20 PM" ) )1:32 PM yesterday
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@Treiagonaut Me too, When i read and watched the Video's #Chernobyl, it was apparent to me, that they had major troubles estiguishing the "damm,. forgot " Mod GAUCK, yes that's it...so Plutonium was it.hence the question arose.
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:31:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:31:40 PM" ) )1:31 PM yesterday
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@fiona Not at all. I saw a news report yesterday on NHK, they had the mayor of Iitate Village on; he was informed of high radiation levels because the MEDIA came to his village asking him about it! No information to evacuate or anything else.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:31:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:31:26 PM" ) )1:31 PM yesterday
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@jojo re: the tone of french news report. they seem critical of the ineptitude and disorganization in general. but less fearful than americans re: radiation
by sheilatoulouse at 3/28/2011 7:30:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:30:19 PM" ) )1:30 PM yesterday
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@jojo I agree with you - I don't understand why they are dragging there feet on this - are they doing it slowly and quietly? or not at all.
by fiona at 3/28/2011 7:29:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:29:53 PM" ) )1:29 PM yesterday
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@All email gibbgeor@hotmail.com with any issues.
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 7:29:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:29:33 PM" ) )1:29 PM yesterday
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@Jay77 We all wrtite in English as is, i was just testing something :-)
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:29:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:29:22 PM" ) )1:29 PM yesterday
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So, they have found plutonium and we still don't know if that indicates a containment breach or not. Anything new about Strontium 90?
by Salvador at 3/28/2011 7:28:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:28:32 PM" ) )1:28 PM yesterday
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@VeenOui Bugged me more than anything,i wanted to know. I love questioning things
by Treiagonaut at 3/28/2011 7:28:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:28:22 PM" ) )1:28 PM yesterday
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@Richard Baum @ Reuters That really you ?.What's the mood #your Dept. ?.I am sure some are pretty engaged outside of Duties ?
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:28:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:28:12 PM" ) )1:28 PM yesterday
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@Richard Baum @ Reuters I'm glad to see that we have found our way to your radar. All of us here are still very interested in the subject, and were sad to see the Reuters live blog taken down.
by Natalie at 3/28/2011 7:27:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:27:34 PM" ) )1:27 PM yesterday
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@you They really need to evacuate those small towns, radiation levels are above EPA limits for pregnant women.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:27:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:27:05 PM" ) )1:27 PM yesterday
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@Richard Baum @ Reuters WELCOME!
by Jay77 at 3/28/2011 7:27:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:27:02 PM" ) )1:27 PM yesterday
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@Richard Baum @ Reuters Thanks Richard, You guys have done a remarkable job and we thank you!
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 7:27:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:27:02 PM" ) )1:27 PM yesterday
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@VeenOui It appears to translate, but only if you switch back and forth between languages. It really muddies the comments, so I'm thinking we'd better just stick with english... Of course, it can't hurt to tell people on german message boards that they can read this site in german (or any other language) if they want to.
by Jay77 at 3/28/2011 7:26:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:26:35 PM" ) )1:26 PM yesterday
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@Treiagonaut Oh WOW, .i didn't think that could be subject to further worry after you posted.
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:26:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:26:29 PM" ) )1:26 PM yesterday
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www.mext.go.jp Update on the radiation levels: fallout has been falling across all prefectures, drinking water getting better in the outlying prefectures. FOr the small towns outside the 30 km zone, radiation levels dropping slightly, but soil/food/water contamination growing worse.
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:26:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:26:25 PM" ) )1:26 PM yesterday
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Great to see the live blog lives on. Richard Baum, Reuters.com
by Richard Baum @ Reuters at 3/28/2011 7:26:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:26:02 PM" ) )1:26 PM yesterday
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Was going to say very frustrated with traditional media's short attention span and the lack of resources and investigative reporting on this important story.
by Dee at 3/28/2011 7:25:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:25:58 PM" ) )1:25 PM yesterday
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A few days ago on the border between Croatia and Slovenia came twice to the failure of the nuclear power plant, power plant is quite old, the defect seems to be a generator and there was an automatic interruption of work, worry, because this old bucket is close to me.
by oli333 at 3/28/2011 7:25:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:25:57 PM" ) )1:25 PM yesterday
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West Tennessee
by DonnerT at 3/28/2011 7:25:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:25:48 PM" ) )1:25 PM yesterday
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Two of the 3 reactors 30 miles from me are GE Mark 1, while the third reactor is a GE Mark 2, combined 95 operating years.
by Markfm at 3/28/2011 7:25:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:25:20 PM" ) )1:25 PM yesterday
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@VeenOui Been researching the possibility of the oxidation of PuO2. Plutonium oxide can form higher oxides, Pu2O3 for example, so it is possible for it to burn. Could not read the science because the pages were open to subscribers only.
www.nature.com and
www.sciencemag.org I have no idea what it implies here. But it does sugest plutonium oxide can be subject to further oxidation under the right circumstances.
by Treiagonaut at 3/28/2011 7:24:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:24:41 PM" ) )1:24 PM yesterday
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I've also been following Reuters and now here since they shut down. I have an exchange student from Oarai Japan and 2 children scheduled to study in Japan this summer. We are from California. Very fre
by Dee at 3/28/2011 7:24:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:24:00 PM" ) )1:24 PM yesterday
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hmmm, didn't translate.......oh well
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:23:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:23:46 PM" ) )1:23 PM yesterday
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@LM, are you checking for BWRs in operation? I was surprised to find out that Japan is loaded with them. In the US, I believe, there is only one plant left, in Wash. state.
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 7:22:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:22:57 PM" ) )1:22 PM yesterday
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am from Bangalore, India
by dervish at 3/28/2011 7:22:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:22:02 PM" ) )1:22 PM yesterday
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@sheilatoulouse What is the tone? Is it fearful, blase, a mix of a bunch of tones?
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:21:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:21:47 PM" ) )1:21 PM yesterday
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It's still officially a 5, I believe.
by Markfm at 3/28/2011 7:21:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:21:40 PM" ) )1:21 PM yesterday
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"""WITZ""""
Fukushima Baeckerei verkauft kein normales Brot mehr, es gibt ab sofort nur noch TOAST :-)
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:21:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:21:35 PM" ) )1:21 PM yesterday
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@George did u do that? magic. thx
by fiona at 3/28/2011 7:20:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:20:59 PM" ) )1:20 PM yesterday
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I think the french were the first to call it a 5 or 6, remember? so the reports seem to be about the same as everything mainstream..with a side dish of 'told you so!'
by sheilatoulouse at 3/28/2011 7:20:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:20:34 PM" ) )1:20 PM yesterday
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So, overall the translation function works, though it is hard to tell what it would be like with a lot of technical jargon.
by Markfm at 3/28/2011 7:20:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:20:28 PM" ) )1:20 PM yesterday
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NYC
by elise at 3/28/2011 7:20:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:20:28 PM" ) )1:20 PM yesterday
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@sheilatoulouse, ça fonctionne vachement bien!
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 7:20:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:20:04 PM" ) )1:20 PM yesterday
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cool...
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 7:19:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:19:22 PM" ) )1:19 PM yesterday
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by kgriff at 3/28/2011 7:18:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:18:53 PM" ) )1:18 PM yesterday
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@sheilatoulouse Hi Sheila, how is the media in France portraying this?
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:18:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:18:38 PM" ) )1:18 PM yesterday
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@VeenOui Unit 1 at San Onofre was dismantled and now stores spent fuel. Units 2 & 3 are fully functioning.
by LM at 3/28/2011 7:18:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:18:06 PM" ) )1:18 PM yesterday
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Croatia
by oli333 at 3/28/2011 7:18:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:18:00 PM" ) )1:18 PM yesterday
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@Hank Scorpio Perfect...
by Jojo at 3/28/2011 7:17:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:17:56 PM" ) )1:17 PM yesterday
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french to english works
by sheilatoulouse at 3/28/2011 7:17:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:17:12 PM" ) )1:17 PM yesterday
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@Markfm, vier!
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 7:17:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:17:12 PM" ) )1:17 PM yesterday
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french to english works
by sheilatoulouse at 3/28/2011 7:17:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:17:06 PM" ) )1:17 PM yesterday
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@MaryMary
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 7:17:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:17:01 PM" ) )1:17 PM yesterday
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by es at 3/28/2011 7:16:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:16:54 PM" ) )1:16 PM yesterday
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@Karen Warren .....LOL...GEORGE!!!! Help!!!...we would have to have access to a file of national flags....
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 7:16:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:16:37 PM" ) )1:16 PM yesterday
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@ifz Aber sicher doch!
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 7:16:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:16:33 PM" ) )1:16 PM yesterday
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testen, testen, eins, zwei, drei
by Markfm at 3/28/2011 7:16:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:16:32 PM" ) )1:16 PM yesterday
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c'est juste pour voir si l'autotraduction marche
by sheilatoulouse at 3/28/2011 7:16:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:16:22 PM" ) )1:16 PM yesterday
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ここに日本から誰か？
Don't answer in Japanese, I can't read it :-)
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:16:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:16:20 PM" ) )1:16 PM yesterday
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@Markfm I wonder if you have it set to german, then you make a comment in german, if it would translate to english for us? (Sorry everyone if this is a distracting topic - just trying to see if we can enlarge our pool of knowledge to non-english speakers)
by Jay77 at 3/28/2011 7:15:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:15:13 PM" ) )1:15 PM yesterday
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A Reuters article for the 28th
wrs.comby kgriff edited by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 7:15:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:15:09 PM" ) )1:15 PM yesterday
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Only the oldest one at the plant has been shut down.
by LM at 3/28/2011 7:14:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:14:47 PM" ) )1:14 PM yesterday
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Im in Washington DC
by Yuri at 3/28/2011 7:14:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:14:41 PM" ) )1:14 PM yesterday
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I'm back on the field.
by Salvador at 3/28/2011 7:14:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:14:13 PM" ) )1:14 PM yesterday
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@MaryMary: Absorutree... How do you add one?
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 7:13:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:13:47 PM" ) )1:13 PM yesterday
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Le Monde says that French Minister of INdustry Eric Besson is thrilled that TEPCO has asked for assistance, but hasn't indicated what kind of specific help they need. They've asked for help from utility companies
by sheilatoulouse at 3/28/2011 7:13:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:13:45 PM" ) )1:13 PM yesterday
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@George - glad you like it - moved rooms and computer avatar on other one
by fiona at 3/28/2011 7:13:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:13:34 PM" ) )1:13 PM yesterday
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(Under Options I set it to German and all comments on the page were re-written, in German)
by Markfm at 3/28/2011 7:13:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:13:28 PM" ) )1:13 PM yesterday
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No.. it's still running
by LM at 3/28/2011 7:13:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:13:16 PM" ) )1:13 PM yesterday
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NYT article: Tainted Water at 2 Reactors...
Asked on Sunday at a news conference what was the company’s projected timeline for emerging from the crisis, Sakae Muto, a vice president for Tokyo Electric Power, said, “We don’t have a concrete schedule.”
Mr. Muto declined to answer a journalist’s question about a possible worst-case outcome, saying, “The important thing is to keep cooling the reactor and prevent the current situation from getting worse.”
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 7:12:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:12:51 PM" ) )1:12 PM yesterday
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i was in Haiti at the time of the earthquake there, about 30 miles from the epicenter. Got home--USA--5 days later. I was "shook" from the experience for weeks afterwards. i can only imagine the state of shock that people are in in Japan. Hibakusha is the word i think for victims the atomic bombings. Now there are new Hibakusha. i hope we can all take time to send energy, hopes, wishes, to all those who suffer from this.
by billmcd at 3/28/2011 7:12:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:12:47 PM" ) )1:12 PM yesterday
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You need to go into Options first, select, say, German, then type a sentence in German as a comment.
by Markfm at 3/28/2011 7:12:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:12:43 PM" ) )1:12 PM yesterday
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@Karen Warren ...Cool, huh? Would be great if we could use our national flags as our avatar...
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 7:12:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:12:38 PM" ) )1:12 PM yesterday
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@LM I thought they shut the Reactor down ?
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:12:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:12:28 PM" ) )1:12 PM yesterday
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First post here. I am reading this blog from the day it was started, when Reuters closed theirs. I hereby would like to thank everybody for posting all the usefull information, news and links. It's good to have all the info clustered on one site. By the way, I'm from the Netherlands.
by Dutch at 3/28/2011 7:12:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:12:28 PM" ) )1:12 PM yesterday
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New York
by JMV - New York at 3/28/2011 7:12:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:12:21 PM" ) )1:12 PM yesterday
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@fiona Your avatar looks like i'm staring in a mirror lol
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 7:12:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:12:12 PM" ) )1:12 PM yesterday
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@Joshua Diamond You don't even need static electrical discharge. It will self-ignite given the right conditions. I posted a link back there.
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 7:12:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:12:08 PM" ) )1:12 PM yesterday
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@Veen Oui, nix "he,he". Na klar!
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 7:12:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:12:00 PM" ) )1:12 PM yesterday
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by
Hank Scorpio via
Images.icanhascheezburger at 3/28/2011 7:11:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:11:56 PM" ) )1:11 PM yesterday
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San Diego, CA ....33 miles from San Onofre nuke plant
by LM at 3/28/2011 7:11:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:11:45 PM" ) )1:11 PM yesterday
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@ifz Ja, hat n9icht uebersetzt....so Auto translate doesn't work per text
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 7:11:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 7:11:21 PM" ) ) Monday, March 28, 2011 1:11 PM
