think they will never ever get any pump to be working again.
by Matsuoko at 3/29/2011 1:06:16 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:06:16 AM" ) ) Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:06 PM
Thanks
by Markfm at 3/29/2011 1:05:46 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:05:46 AM" ) )7:05 PM yesterday
@Scilla, thanks for the diagram.....It looks like those trenches were put in for emergency overflow protection. Scary part is the distance from the open end of the trenches to the ocean, with a downhill tilt towards the ocean. Most of the water is just within feet of the top of the trench. If it overflows it will dump right into the ocean below the site. I really suspect that there may have initially been some earthquake damage done to the reactors or pressure vessels, all before this situation came to being. It may have split the walls or cracked some of the reactor piping, which is now leaking because of the increase in the pressure from the overheating.
by wtm at 3/29/2011 1:05:31 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:05:31 AM" ) )7:05 PM yesterday
@Markfm link works
W7VOA Steve Herman
TEPCO shares untraded Tuesday morning amid glut of sell orders. lol
by gabe at 3/29/2011 1:05:25 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:05:25 AM" ) )7:05 PM yesterday
And that they have to keep it cool, so they have to keep adding water, but they're out of room in the trench so they have to be very careful with amounts till they drain it.
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 1:05:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:05:22 AM" ) )7:05 PM yesterday
@Markfm link works
by VeenOui at 3/29/2011 1:05:18 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:05:18 AM" ) )7:05 PM yesterday
Oh deary me, Oh deary deary me poooor Tepco are in the .... twitter.com!/W7VOA Steve Herman
TEPCO shares untraded Tuesday morning amid glut of sell orders.
by elainekirk at 3/29/2011 1:05:16 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:05:16 AM" ) )7:05 PM yesterday
@Meretisa Not alot. NHK will probably repeat the key points, for the next few hours anyway.
by es at 3/29/2011 1:05:14 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:05:14 AM" ) )7:05 PM yesterday
Damaged reactor may be leaking radioactive water, Japan says
By the CNN Wire Staff
March 28, 2011 7:26 p.m. EDT www.cnn.com
by Sin at 3/29/2011 1:04:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:04:59 AM" ) )7:04 PM yesterday
@Jojo weren't you looking for trench information? www3.nhk.or.jp
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 1:04:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:04:49 AM" ) )7:04 PM yesterday
It didn't really say anything new. But he flat out said (at least in the translation) that the water comes from the reactor vessel.
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 1:04:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:04:22 AM" ) )7:04 PM yesterday
by Markfm edited by George Gibb at 3/29/2011 1:04:19 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:04:19 AM" ) )7:04 PM yesterday
every day a different problem ....
by Matsuoko at 3/29/2011 1:04:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:04:06 AM" ) )7:04 PM yesterday
by VeenOui via Pointscope01.jp at 3/29/2011 1:03:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:03:49 AM" ) )7:03 PM yesterday
Thanks to all of you for keeping me informed.
by Sin at 3/29/2011 1:03:34 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:03:34 AM" ) )7:03 PM yesterday
@Sin They might release another video tonight some time
by George Gibb at 3/29/2011 1:03:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:03:02 AM" ) )7:03 PM yesterday
@is there somewhere I can watch it over again? the sound didn't work at all for me. what happened??
by Meretisa at 3/29/2011 1:03:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:03:02 AM" ) )7:03 PM yesterday
Ah, so TEPCO gets the next slot to repeat the "small, not harmful" meme.
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 1:02:50 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:02:50 AM" ) )7:02 PM yesterday
I wish I would have had that link to have been able to listen to it sooner.
by Sin at 3/29/2011 1:02:17 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:02:17 AM" ) )7:02 PM yesterday
@Sin Transcripts are also available at that site, if anyone's unable/unwilling to listen to the audio files.
by es at 3/29/2011 1:01:38 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:01:38 AM" ) )7:01 PM yesterday
@Sin ~ this is so awesome...he is spending 3-4 hours a day researching questions sent into his daughter evelyns blog.
by elise at 3/29/2011 1:01:34 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:01:34 AM" ) )7:01 PM yesterday
@George Gibb Will do, thank you.
by Duncan at 3/29/2011 1:01:15 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:01:15 AM" ) )7:01 PM yesterday
That was the most straight-forward report yet.
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 1:01:11 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:01:11 AM" ) )7:01 PM yesterday
@fitter: TEPCO's Damage Cover-up and Data Falsification this is a what you want its an accident falsification revealled chart (GE Related) cnic.jp
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 1:01:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:01:08 AM" ) )7:01 PM yesterday
Wow, not sure this news conference being broadcase on NHK sounds good...Pu part scares the daylights out of me.
by pj at 3/29/2011 1:00:21 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:00:21 AM" ) )7:00 PM yesterday
by George Gibb at 3/29/2011 1:00:04 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 1:00:04 AM" ) )7:00 PM yesterday
@Duncan you may like to watch this presentation
by George Gibb at 3/29/2011 12:59:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:59:59 AM" ) )6:59 PM yesterday
Hey guys...someone posted this link yesterday. This is daily phone interviews with a nuclear engineer / retired US navy commander (who has the technical knowledge to explain the Fukushima crisis) by his daughter and posted on YouTube. I have been listening to these interviews and it has proven to be very informative and spot-on. Unbiased and factual and very good explanations as to what is going on by a knowledgeable expert. I encourage you all to take a listen. Thanks to the original poster of this link. This link is to the daughter's blog, with links http://georneys.blogspot.com/ its also interested to listen from the 1st one to go back and review how this has developed.
by Sin at 3/29/2011 12:59:41 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:59:41 AM" ) )6:59 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy 3000m3, as I recall
by es at 3/29/2011 12:58:41 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:58:41 AM" ) )6:58 PM yesterday
How much water in that R1 trench? anyone see the size?
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 12:58:07 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:58:07 AM" ) )6:58 PM yesterday
woo hoo. thanks. will bookmark this time.
by Meretisa at 3/29/2011 12:56:38 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:56:38 AM" ) )6:56 PM yesterday
by George Gibb at 3/29/2011 12:55:55 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:55:55 AM" ) )6:55 PM yesterday
That's good. He said it comes from the plant and didn't even muddy the waters with that "nuclear history' line
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 12:55:43 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:55:43 AM" ) )6:55 PM yesterday
what is good link for live nhk? nico nico not working and can't find other. thanks
by Meretisa at 3/29/2011 12:55:22 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:55:22 AM" ) )6:55 PM yesterday
@George Gibb: Thank you so much for doing this. I only actually found this blog today and it is such a god send to be able to filter through the reports coming out. Every news story now (on Reuters/BBC for example) seems to be one small paragraph of new information followed by two pages of old.
by Duncan at 3/29/2011 12:54:40 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:54:40 AM" ) )6:54 PM yesterday
@Duncan I am starting to pin the morning news reports, and as reports are released throughout the day many people here gather them and post. Every so often we have Dean drop in and he answers as many of the nuclear questions we have and provides insight into some of the reports. The rest of the time we discuss almost everything.
by George Gibb at 3/29/2011 12:53:14 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:53:14 AM" ) )6:53 PM yesterday
They did the same thing again on March 26 2009 Fukushima No. 1 Reactor No.3 "During testing of control rod drive hydraulic system, 1 Control rod inserted too far (beyond the fully inserted position).cnic.jp
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:53:03 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:53:03 AM" ) )6:53 PM yesterday
by Salvador via I.imgur at 3/29/2011 12:52:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:52:49 AM" ) )6:52 PM yesterday
I'll repost two pictures. Maybe someone here could tell me what the round object to the left of the screenshots is? Picture No. 1: i.imgur.com
by Salvador via I.imgur at 3/29/2011 12:52:36 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:52:36 AM" ) )6:52 PM yesterday
@all...Edano on now with announcement (NHK.live)
by MaryMary at 3/29/2011 12:51:55 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:51:55 AM" ) )6:51 PM yesterday
@Duncan George has been posting the new stuff atthe top of the page, so check there first.
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 12:49:56 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:49:56 AM" ) )6:49 PM yesterday
I'm hoping that incident sheet from R1 isn't typical. An average of two "significant incidents" per month in 2001.
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 12:48:39 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:48:39 AM" ) )6:48 PM yesterday
AND THERES MOREMajor Incidents at Japanese Nuclear Facilities this is from 2009 April 6 Fukushima No. 1 reactor No. 3 " During restoration work after inspection of a hydraulic control unit for the control rod drive hydraulic system, 1 control rod inserted too far (beyound the fully inserted position" cnic.jp
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:48:20 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:48:20 AM" ) )6:48 PM yesterday
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It's so frustrating trying to follow news on this, especially since the official blogs all went down. Half the time I don't know what is new or recycled information.
by Duncan at 3/29/2011 12:47:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:47:58 AM" ) )6:47 PM yesterday
Chief Cabinet Secretary Edano due to give live conference shortly (NHK world)
by es at 3/29/2011 12:47:56 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:47:56 AM" ) )6:47 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy Like whateva dude!
by gabe at 3/29/2011 12:47:39 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:47:39 AM" ) )6:47 PM yesterday
@marie rich Actually it is Walter from 'The Big Lebowskii', but I do appreciate that you can make out a 1911 from that tiny pic.
by gabe at 3/29/2011 12:47:18 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:47:18 AM" ) )6:47 PM yesterday
@gabe Parsing all your words takes ever so much more time to prepare.
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 12:46:17 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:46:17 AM" ) )6:46 PM yesterday
@Tenzing But none on that list are the reactors we are watching...
by gabe at 3/29/2011 12:45:29 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:45:29 AM" ) )6:45 PM yesterday
@Tenzing Wow...that is one checkered history.
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 12:45:09 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:45:09 AM" ) )6:45 PM yesterday
@gabe for sure... is that a 1911 your racking in avatar?
by marie rich at 3/29/2011 12:44:40 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:44:40 AM" ) )6:44 PM yesterday
@wtm here's a drawing I saw in another forum. saposjoint.net
by Scilla at 3/29/2011 12:44:36 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:44:36 AM" ) )6:44 PM yesterday
@wtm ...there is one here, but probably not to scale... www3.nhk.or.jp
by MaryMary at 3/29/2011 12:43:56 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:43:56 AM" ) )6:43 PM yesterday
@marie rich No problem will post as soon as they do. Information has slowed with each passing day.
by gabe at 3/29/2011 12:43:11 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:43:11 AM" ) )6:43 PM yesterday
Here we go i'm beginning to think the events at TEMPCO'S Fukushima No. 1 on March 22, 2011 were inevitable and I'm shocked it didn't happen sooner. DATA: Significant incidents at Nuclear Facilities (2001) www.cnic.jp
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:43:03 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:43:03 AM" ) )6:43 PM yesterday
Goodnight/morning/ afternoon to all, where ever you maybe.
by audi at 3/29/2011 12:42:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:42:10 AM" ) )6:42 PM yesterday
@radioguy- :0)
by Maureen Burke at 3/29/2011 12:40:59 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:40:59 AM" ) )6:40 PM yesterday
@kt39 yes, thks
by fitter at 3/29/2011 12:40:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:40:44 AM" ) )6:40 PM yesterday
@gabe Thanks for looking :)
by marie rich at 3/29/2011 12:40:25 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:40:25 AM" ) )6:40 PM yesterday
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 12:39:14 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:39:14 AM" ) )6:39 PM yesterday
@marie rich Unfortunately there is not an English version yet.
by gabe at 3/29/2011 12:38:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:38:58 AM" ) )6:38 PM yesterday
@es thank you!
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:37:30 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:37:30 AM" ) )6:37 PM yesterday
@openmind Yeah. Quite some blast.
by es at 3/29/2011 12:37:24 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:37:24 AM" ) )6:37 PM yesterday
Has anyone come across a diagram of the nuclear site in relation to the vertical height of the Turbine building, the maintenance tunnel and the reactor unit ???
by wtm at 3/29/2011 12:37:14 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:37:14 AM" ) )6:37 PM yesterday
@es ="Good sequence of shots. Thanks. So that was the SFP?"
Good question, remember, these shots are before very large heavy pieces of machinery and the building were sent flying 100s of feet into the air! www.flickr.com
by openmind at 3/29/2011 12:35:50 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:35:50 AM" ) )6:35 PM yesterday
@fitter let me know what else you need, there is a plethora of info on this site :0) my trust in TEMPCO has diminished substantially ;(
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:35:28 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:35:28 AM" ) )6:35 PM yesterday
@Tenzing This article from April 2008 concerns Rokkasho Reprocessing Plant, don't know if you've seen it: www.smh.com.au
by es at 3/29/2011 12:35:27 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:35:27 AM" ) )6:35 PM yesterday
Possible reason why number 4 wasn't running...http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-23/fukushima-engineer-says-he-covered-up-flaw-at-shut-reactor.html
by Maureen Burke at 3/29/2011 12:35:14 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:35:14 AM" ) )6:35 PM yesterday
Just want to say again how much I appreciate this community! I have wonderful smart conscious friends and yet not one of them seems to understand the importance and enormity of this event. But you do, so thanks.
by ariadne at 3/29/2011 12:35:11 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:35:11 AM" ) )6:35 PM yesterday
@gabe can you direct me to english version?
by marie rich at 3/29/2011 12:33:13 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:33:13 AM" ) )6:33 PM yesterday
@tenzing YES YES thank you so much... I am lost without drawings and diagrams, they show so much, and you can anticipate the variables bette... thanks again
by fitter at 3/29/2011 12:33:08 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:33:08 AM" ) )6:33 PM yesterday
@Tenzing There is always something exasperating about their data releases. That Shroud replacement document, It lists dosages in person-Sieverts, but doesn't say how many people involved, just the number who received over 15mSv, though given that even back in 2002, R3 seems to have been hotter than the others that may have been all of the workers.
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 12:32:16 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:32:16 AM" ) )6:32 PM yesterday
by KT39 at 3/29/2011 12:32:10 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:32:10 AM" ) )6:32 PM yesterday
@fitter
by KT39 at 3/29/2011 12:32:03 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:32:03 AM" ) )6:32 PM yesterday
@marie rich R#1 RPV temp was ~300C @ Nozzle as of 0200 on 3/29, at least that is what the Japanese lang. report read earlier today.
by gabe at 3/29/2011 12:32:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:32:02 AM" ) )6:32 PM yesterday
@fitter Public Involvement in Japan's Nuclear Power Licensing Systemwww.cnic.jp
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:31:49 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:31:49 AM" ) )6:31 PM yesterday
@fitter Mechanism of Core Shroud and its Function cnic.jp is this what you want?
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:30:25 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:30:25 AM" ) )6:30 PM yesterday
@fitter Mechanism of Core Shroud and its Function
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:29:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:29:35 AM" ) )6:29 PM yesterday
*observations on latest unit parameters* #1.) RPV temp has risen a bit since ystd @ head 146.3C to 143.4C: it has risen significantly at the nozzle 195.3C to 224.8C. #2.) RPV Pressure continues to drop a bit 0.085mPa to 0.083mPa {I believe normal is 0.42747mPa(?)} :RPV nozzle temp has increased 107C to 123.6C #3.) RPV nozzle (appears) to have dropped alot 37.6C to 13.6C (under survey); C/V pressure has gone up a bit ) 0.1066mPa to 0.1076mPa.
by marie rich at 3/29/2011 12:25:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:25:58 AM" ) )6:25 PM yesterday
Prophetic, "attempting to recover trust of the local residents"
by Markfm at 3/29/2011 12:23:16 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:23:16 AM" ) )6:23 PM yesterday
@tenzing look at first paragraph in section two... not all data is included (i think) because they were on some units replacing what was there with the same.. therefore not having an effect on the "design" criteria.. may not need reegineered/recertified.. also in our codes and contracts " should" "shall" and "may" are different legally..... good info.. if you find any drawings... of shroud.. system.. please let me know fitter
by fitter at 3/29/2011 12:22:24 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:22:24 AM" ) )6:22 PM yesterday
@Meretisa this is what you want I think www.cnic.jp
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:21:43 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:21:43 AM" ) )6:21 PM yesterday
@d_news yw
by George Gibb at 3/29/2011 12:21:41 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:21:41 AM" ) )6:21 PM yesterday
@George Gibb Thanks George, after posting I realized I didn't register here and wondered how I could post lol Then realized Reuters used the same format. BTW, thanks for starting this forum, I needed somewhere to go after Reuters as a lot of others did as well.
by d_news at 3/29/2011 12:21:19 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:21:19 AM" ) )6:21 PM yesterday
On the pu plan for 2010, read the third row, tokyo, about tepco.
by Markfm at 3/29/2011 12:21:09 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:21:09 AM" ) )6:21 PM yesterday
@Meretisa There should be links on the comments. Its CNIC - heres one more Japan to the Rescue of Sellafield MOX Plant "The first Japanese company to have MOX fuel fabricated at SMP will be Chubu Electric, subcontracted via Global Nuclear Fuel Japan. Asahi Shimbun reported on May 13 that fabrication would begin in about 2012. However, before that can happen, an order for a German utility must be completed and engineering changes have to be made."
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:20:26 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:20:26 AM" ) )6:20 PM yesterday
@Tenzing I mean the link about the exposure. Thanks.
by Meretisa at 3/29/2011 12:20:09 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:20:09 AM" ) )6:20 PM yesterday
Got it - always logged in, so I never noticed the avatar button
by Markfm at 3/29/2011 12:18:15 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:18:15 AM" ) )6:18 PM yesterday
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@Tenzing- do you have a link on that info?
by Meretisa at 3/29/2011 12:17:36 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:17:36 AM" ) )6:17 PM yesterday
@Duncan: I see. All the best to you, your partner and her mother. Seems like you have done all you can do. If you have made up your mind to a decision it is always best to stick to it and not doubt it unless the situation changes.
by ben at 3/29/2011 12:16:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:16:44 AM" ) )6:16 PM yesterday
Japan's Plutonium Utilization Plans for 2010www.cnic.jp
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:15:52 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:15:52 AM" ) )6:15 PM yesterday
@Markfm ...click on Avatar browse to upload...then fill in name box....dialog box should open with your avatar showing....
by MaryMary at 3/29/2011 12:13:52 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:13:52 AM" ) )6:13 PM yesterday
@d_news The login on the top right corner is not for posting comments. It is for writers, editors etc. for logging in. The login for comments occurs when you pick a display name.
by George Gibb at 3/29/2011 12:13:40 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:13:40 AM" ) )6:13 PM yesterday
@Tenzing Very interesting.
by es at 3/29/2011 12:13:29 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:13:29 AM" ) )6:13 PM yesterday
@Tenzing Good find, so #2 has had pipe damage in 2002 and subsequent replacement.
by gabe at 3/29/2011 12:13:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:13:06 AM" ) )6:13 PM yesterday
Workers' Radiation Exposure Data for FY2009 "NISA's data shows a top dose of 19.5 milli-sieverts incurred at the Ohi Nuclear Power Station, while the highest dose for an electric power company employee was 12.9 milli-sieverts at Fukushima I Nuclear Power Station. The highest dose for an electric power company employee in the previous fiscal year was 14.6 milli-sieverts, also at Fukushima I. NISA's data shows a top dose of 19.5 milli-sieverts incurred at the Ohi Nuclear Power Station, while the highest dose for an electric power company employee was 12.9 milli-sieverts at Fukushima I Nuclear Power Station. <b>The highest dose for an electric power company employee in the previous fiscal year was 14.6 milli-sieverts, also at Fukushima I."</b>
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:12:44 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:12:44 AM" ) )6:12 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien bye
by marie rich at 3/29/2011 12:10:48 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:10:48 AM" ) )6:10 PM yesterday
Like Dean said earlier, "the flash of the blast... must have been a tremendous load on the floor of that building and sent shock wave through out the area" farm6.static.flickr.com
by openmind via Farm6.static.flickr at 3/29/2011 12:10:40 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:10:40 AM" ) )6:10 PM yesterday
got to go to sleep. Thanks to all of you. Will come back tomorow.
by Jo Lindien at 3/29/2011 12:10:21 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:10:21 AM" ) )6:10 PM yesterday
oops, sorry I was wrong. I didn't register here and don't really recall how I started posting on the Rueters blog.
by d_news at 3/29/2011 12:09:52 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:09:52 AM" ) )6:09 PM yesterday
If I plug in an email addy it just tells me I am not registered.
by Markfm at 3/29/2011 12:09:17 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:09:17 AM" ) )6:09 PM yesterday
@Markfm If you click on Login via Twitter or Facebook i know it works, it will direct you to scribble and you can use your logins through them.works dandy
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by VeenOui at 3/29/2011 12:08:34 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:08:34 AM" ) )6:08 PM yesterday
@marie rich: well choosen illustration, no doubt.... So ironical...
by Jo Lindien at 3/29/2011 12:08:13 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:08:13 AM" ) )6:08 PM yesterday
@Markfm No, before you log in, chose one 50x50 or less in the login box.
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 12:08:07 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:08:07 AM" ) )6:08 PM yesterday
@Markfm at the top of this page on the right
by d_news at 3/29/2011 12:08:01 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:08:01 AM" ) )6:08 PM yesterday
Ot, but does someone have a link to register on scribble, so that you can get an avatar?
by Markfm at 3/29/2011 12:07:21 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:07:21 AM" ) )6:07 PM yesterday
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 12:05:50 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:05:50 AM" ) )6:05 PM yesterday
@ben My partner says she can't leave her mother, which is completely understandable, and I feel horrible and selfish even asking her. If it was my mother I'd be doing exactly the same thing. If I was there I'd just feel better as I would have more control and could "protect" her (even though realistically me being there does nothing). We've looked in to transfering hospitals but it just isn't possible and if she leaves she loses her chance to do rehabiliatation (she had a stroke). I'm pretty much lost at the moment. Thanks for the advice. I will look in to some stuff I can send her.
by Duncan at 3/29/2011 12:05:07 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:05:07 AM" ) )6:05 PM yesterday
HELLO: Workers' Radiation Exposure from Replacing Reactor Core Shroud and Recirculation System Pipeswww.cnic.jp
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:04:37 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:04:37 AM" ) )6:04 PM yesterday
@All Oh, the irony! I've been using this one diagram of bwr cause I liked it, but never scrolled down past it til just now... You've got to check this out. LOL www.craftysue.com
by marie rich at 3/29/2011 12:04:27 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:04:27 AM" ) )6:04 PM yesterday
www.windows2universe.org worldwide ocean currents. But note that local currents may run in the opposite direction. Big currents also tend to throw off rings, i.e. eddies that spin off to the sides and tend to entrap parcels of water.
by Alaskan at 3/29/2011 12:04:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:04:06 AM" ) )6:04 PM yesterday
So, the trench is filling and suddenly they have a new variable. They have to put enough water into the reactor for cooling, but they can't let outflow overfill the trench. R1 trench is worse, the one with the pressure and temperature issues.
by RadioGuy at 3/29/2011 12:03:48 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:03:48 AM" ) )6:03 PM yesterday
Japan's Plutonium Utilization Plans for 2010 "FEPCO also released data on the plutonium holdings of each electric power company at the end of 2009. See FEPCO's translation below. (Note that there is some plutonium owned by the Japan Atomic Energy Agency which is not counted in this table. There also appear to be some other discrepancies with the annual data of Japan's total plutonium inventory.)" www.cnic.jp
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:03:33 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:03:33 AM" ) )6:03 PM yesterday
@Alaskan Yeah and then down the Western Coast.
by Jim Carver at 3/29/2011 12:03:19 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:03:19 AM" ) )6:03 PM yesterday
by VeenOui via Pointscope01.jp at 3/29/2011 12:02:58 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:02:58 AM" ) )6:02 PM yesterday
@Duncan That is basically what we are doing. Another good thing you can do if you want to help is send bottled water/some veggies her way - Bottled water is still hard to get and at least we watch which veggies we get.
by ben at 3/29/2011 12:02:50 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:02:50 AM" ) )6:02 PM yesterday
@Jim, I know there's a strong current (Kuroshio) running to the NE offshore of Honshu but don't know how close inshore it comes. That current turns into the N. Pacific current heading east, then changes direction to head NW as the Alaska current to come by me.
by Alaskan at 3/29/2011 12:01:35 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:01:35 AM" ) )6:01 PM yesterday
did anyone see a article that this plant apperantly had elevated levels approx two weeks before quake... i had read somthing to this in the beging but can't find now
by fitter at 3/29/2011 12:01:27 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:01:27 AM" ) )6:01 PM yesterday
Optim, Thanks for tip, and James Ward thanks to you also for your link.
by audi at 3/29/2011 12:01:26 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:01:26 AM" ) )6:01 PM yesterday
@Alaskan Some might say that is a good reason to dump things like this in the deep ocean. (Not me!)
by Jim Carver at 3/29/2011 12:00:38 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:00:38 AM" ) )6:00 PM yesterday
Japanese Inventory of Separated Plutonium (2008) www.cnic.jp
by Tenzing at 3/29/2011 12:00:06 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:00:06 AM" ) )6:00 PM yesterday
@Duncan We left for a few days to Osaka but in the end I had to decide on whether to go back or not and my company finally decided to open up their reasoning why to stay in TK and that was sufficiently convincing for me. Now as said, think it through for yourself - if you feel save to get out before you get severe radioactivity go back, otherwise work on getting your partner out (e.g. can they move the mother to a different hospital). Personally I actually feel safer right now than a week ago as I feel that I have a grasp on how the situation is evolving.
by ben at 3/29/2011 12:00:02 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:00:02 AM" ) )6:00 PM yesterday
Everything I hear from my partner says things in Tokyo are pretty much going on as normal, though I can tell she is hiding the fact she is a bit scared, which is heart-breaking. Luckily she lives in Kanagawa and their water supply is different to that of Tokyo's. Still I ask her to drink bottled water if she can, and to have a bag packed with an exit strategy. I don't even think it will come to anything that drastic, but when it comes to those you love, you don't want to take any chances.
by Duncan at 3/29/2011 12:00:01 AMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/29/2011 12:00:01 AM" ) )6:00 PM yesterday
@ben- that was on this site-later deleted.
by Maureen Burke at 3/28/2011 11:59:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:59:00 PM" ) )5:59 PM yesterday
The contamination will decay at the same rate in water as in soil or air. Heavier isotopes may eventually fall to the sea floor, but what most folks don't understand is that the top 100m or so of the ocean doesn't mix much with the water below due to the effects of wind shear.
by Alaskan at 3/28/2011 11:58:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:58:51 PM" ) )5:58 PM yesterday
@fitter The heavy ones will settle and be radioactive for millenia... the lighter ones will not settle as readily, and may make their way into the food chain.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:58:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:58:45 PM" ) )5:58 PM yesterday
@Alaskan Doesn't look like that's going to be the case here as the geography lends itself for good circulation throughout the ocean basin. Correct?
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 11:58:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:58:32 PM" ) )5:58 PM yesterday
by James Ward at 3/28/2011 11:57:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:57:50 PM" ) )5:57 PM yesterday
@Maureen - that you tube video of the crying guy in the apartment - I posted a coment
by ben at 3/28/2011 11:57:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:57:35 PM" ) )5:57 PM yesterday
@Audi: I would not trust Indian media a lot. They have a habit of sensationalizing every small bit of news. They will do ANYTHING to get TRP (viewership). On the other hand indiatoday is most of the time reliable. You posted link from indiatoday so that lends a lil bit of credence to the story. This comes from an Indian btw.
by Optim at 3/28/2011 11:57:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:57:29 PM" ) )5:57 PM yesterday
@Alaskan Thanks. Good to have such info.
by es at 3/28/2011 11:57:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:57:23 PM" ) )5:57 PM yesterday
@ben- what was the fake post on the facebook page?
by Maureen Burke at 3/28/2011 11:57:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:57:06 PM" ) )5:57 PM yesterday
by openmind via Farm6.static.flickr at 3/28/2011 11:56:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:56:49 PM" ) )5:56 PM yesterday
will the containates eventually settle into the ocean floor??? or will it break down
by fitter at 3/28/2011 11:56:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:56:36 PM" ) )5:56 PM yesterday
@James Ward Agree!
by d_news at 3/28/2011 11:56:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:56:27 PM" ) )5:56 PM yesterday
@ben Interesting, are you even so close to the "hotzone" getting more information here than from loval friends / media ??
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 11:56:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:56:26 PM" ) )5:56 PM yesterday
Many large organizations and most governments self-insure. Reinsurance companies (SwissRe, LLoyds, etc.) have really raised their premiums.
by Alaskan at 3/28/2011 11:56:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:56:08 PM" ) )5:56 PM yesterday
Energy shortage causes 15%-25% productivity cuts, affecting even companies elsewhere. The yen change is making it worse. Broad companies affected, even ones with only 5% parts from the North. With the plant still uncertain, it's hard to knwo when this will change.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:56:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:56:04 PM" ) )5:56 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy Yeah 25%loss in overall production :-0
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 11:55:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:55:43 PM" ) )5:55 PM yesterday
by audi at 3/28/2011 11:54:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:54:59 PM" ) )5:54 PM yesterday
@Alin, as an oceanographer I think the biggest effects of seawater contamination will be local to Japan in the short term. Longer term, there could be bioconcentration in long-lived species a the top of the food chain (marine mammals, seabirds like Wisdm the Laysan albatross, etc.) but only if the contamination stays concentrated in inshore waters, tide marshes, etc.
by Alaskan at 3/28/2011 11:54:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:54:50 PM" ) )5:54 PM yesterday
@Duncan & @VeenOui: Yes I sit in Tokyo right now in my apartment (unlike that fake post that ended up on the group Facebook page).
by ben at 3/28/2011 11:54:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:54:47 PM" ) )5:54 PM yesterday
@d_news Somehow knowing that the TEPCO chief was hiding in his office makes it much worse.
by James Ward at 3/28/2011 11:54:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:54:02 PM" ) )5:54 PM yesterday
how does japan run there health insurance.. is it free, priviate combo ????
by fitter at 3/28/2011 11:53:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:53:52 PM" ) )5:53 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy Cliffnotes..one sentence or less !
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 11:53:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:53:17 PM" ) )5:53 PM yesterday
'Japan ignored warning on reactors'
March 17, 2011
Wikileaks reveals that the Fukushima nuclear power plant disaster could have been averted had Japan heeded to an IAEA warning about two years ago. Read story
Didnt hear this before.?
by audi at 3/28/2011 11:53:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:53:11 PM" ) )5:53 PM yesterday
The NHK discussion of the economic and energy implications for Japan was interesting.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:52:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:52:26 PM" ) )5:52 PM yesterday
@ben You're in Tokyo now ??
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 11:51:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:51:48 PM" ) )5:51 PM yesterday
@ben: I understand the risks but at the same time, having read pretty much everything published since the earthquake, I feel safe going back. Any fears I had would be heavily outweighed by just being able to be with my partner again. Are you over there uninsured as well then? I've looked in to so many options, but just seem to hit dead ends.
by Duncan at 3/28/2011 11:51:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:51:16 PM" ) )5:51 PM yesterday
Not too long a doc and it is well worth a look because this act is what they will have to abide by www.oecd-nea.org Act on Compensation for Nuclear Damage
(Act No. 147 of 1961)
As Amended by Act No. 19 of 17 April 2009
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 11:50:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:50:49 PM" ) )5:50 PM yesterday
www.cnn.com Tepco chief spent week secluded in office
by d_news at 3/28/2011 11:50:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:50:15 PM" ) )5:50 PM yesterday
@Duncan: I had to go back to TK as well and have basically been in the same situation. The main thing you have to see is if YOU feel save enough to be in TK. Personally I consider the risk of the situation changing gravely from one second to another rather low, at the moment there is no radioactivity in the air and you can avoid drinking water (personally that is what I am most careful about). I instilled that believe in my relatives and they are slightly calmed down now.
by ben at 3/28/2011 11:49:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:49:21 PM" ) )5:49 PM yesterday
Tepco's chief knew what was going on. He caught the first flight to Aruba.
by Bev at 3/28/2011 11:48:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:48:48 PM" ) )5:48 PM yesterday
@James Ward I was shocked by the idea of burning your engineers, the only ones who know the whole history, right at the beginning. I know that's a catch-22, but it's something you pay for later.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:48:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:48:46 PM" ) )5:48 PM yesterday
@Karen Warren: don't know for Japan either. I just know that if in France, or the tax would pay or people could only cry on what they would have lost due to nuclear accident.
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 11:48:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:48:30 PM" ) )5:48 PM yesterday
in flordia, Va and other states it is very common for the "unscupules" to hire the homeless and illegal, they are considered "disposibles" won't turn you into OSHA/ect. no training or workerscomp insurance and very seldom will show up on the book... We were almost "sited" because we x-raying at night, so not to expose plant personal... there was a sub on site who worked his men 5 hours over quittng time, they did't speak english, did not understand the universal roping of red tape on our ditch and "cut through" to get to the gate.
by fitter at 3/28/2011 11:48:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:48:25 PM" ) )5:48 PM yesterday
@Karen Warren The shareholders will likely be wiped out, but investors are only on the hook for their investment. Litigation in Japan is NOTHING like it is in the US, and the losses will certainly exceed the shareholder equity. The TEPCO well will run dry very quickly.
by George at 3/28/2011 11:46:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:46:49 PM" ) )5:46 PM yesterday
@audi I don't have any sympathy for TEPCO's chief. While he had the luxury to take a break, his engineers, workers, and contractors were trying hard to control the situation at Fukushima at great personal risk.
by James Ward at 3/28/2011 11:46:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:46:22 PM" ) )5:46 PM yesterday
Neither did Marie Antoinette, and we know how well that turned out.
by Bev at 3/28/2011 11:46:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:46:16 PM" ) )5:46 PM yesterday
@fitter ... I think your posts will always say "by you"...cause you already know who you are and that you said it....
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 11:46:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:46:16 PM" ) )5:46 PM yesterday
i jest, but it is going to have a profound effect i think: "Tokyo Electric Lighting, was Japan's first electric utility, established only 15 years after Japan left behind feudalism. Nationalized during the war effort, TEPCO was reconstituted under its present name in war-devastated Tokyo of 1951.
As Japan built its postwar economic miracle, TEPCO was at the center of planning for the vast industrial installations that sprang up, needing gigantic amounts of electricity to produce the industrial bounty that made Japan a rich nation. Industry consumed as much as 80% of the electricity generated in Japan by the 1970s, when TEPCO ranked as the largest private electric utility in the world (it ranks fourth today, and industry's share has declined)." www.americanthinker.com
by elise at 3/28/2011 11:45:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:45:52 PM" ) )5:45 PM yesterday
Ironically enough, it was probably seeing BP skate through that crisis that convinced them they could get away with dropping their insurance. It was June of last year, just as the spill had faded from the news.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:45:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:45:35 PM" ) )5:45 PM yesterday
@Duncan I can understand your moms concern but I also see yours...you seem to be between a rock and hard place. Wish there was an easy solution
by d_news at 3/28/2011 11:45:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:45:31 PM" ) )5:45 PM yesterday
@ Jo L: The burden of TEPCO's liability will be placed on the shareholders. Don't know anything about Japan's legal system and compensation for punitive damages. If it were in the US, class action lawyers would already be advertising on TV.
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 11:44:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:44:37 PM" ) )5:44 PM yesterday
@audi Yes, but they took great pains to say that he never fell down or needed intervenous feeding.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:43:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:43:07 PM" ) )5:43 PM yesterday
@elaine: That is already something completely different, isn't it ?
by ben at 3/28/2011 11:43:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:43:00 PM" ) )5:43 PM yesterday
@matsuoko: Exactly - "homeless" has a very different set of meanings right now
by Alin at 3/28/2011 11:42:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:42:08 PM" ) )5:42 PM yesterday
@ben the lads who stepped in the puddle were not tepco employees they were not nuclear trained they were subcontracted from an electrical contracter!! I cannot verify the homeless story but the insurance is solid
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 11:41:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:41:39 PM" ) )5:41 PM yesterday
I'm just wondering. What next for workers? There aren't 340,000 troops coming back fresh from their drubbing in Afghanistan.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:41:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:41:38 PM" ) )5:41 PM yesterday
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Chief got sick during crisis: Tepco
Compiled from Kyodo, Staff report
Masataka Shimizu, the president of Tokyo Electric Power Co., fell ill March 16 and took some time off from the utility's liaison office with the government, Tepco officials said Sunday. search.japantimes.co.jp
by audi at 3/28/2011 11:41:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:41:21 PM" ) )5:41 PM yesterday
can someone tell me how come my name comes up as "fitter" and other times it says "by you" from fitter
by fitter at 3/28/2011 11:41:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:41:19 PM" ) )5:41 PM yesterday
@elise homeless electricans maybe.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 11:40:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:40:52 PM" ) )5:40 PM yesterday
Thanks guys. I'm on the verge of just going uninsured, despite of how foolish that could be. It's just hard when your mother is in tears begging you not to go.
by Duncan at 3/28/2011 11:39:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:39:59 PM" ) )5:39 PM yesterday
electricians, not homeless people are wiring the building....
by elise at 3/28/2011 11:39:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:39:37 PM" ) )5:39 PM yesterday
@elainekirk: Don't believe every bad rumor.
by ben at 3/28/2011 11:39:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:39:26 PM" ) )5:39 PM yesterday
@elainekirk That brings up a good point. Aren't their current group of workers pretty much burned through their lifetime doses?
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:39:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:39:25 PM" ) )5:39 PM yesterday
@James Ward Yes he is. Yes it is. I had to put him down for a while. I was walking about grinding my teeth.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:38:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:38:25 PM" ) )5:38 PM yesterday
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I miss hearing from people directly effected in Japan and else where.
by d_news at 3/28/2011 11:38:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:38:25 PM" ) )5:38 PM yesterday
@veenOui the business sites are saying tepco are hiring homeless through contractors for the clean up that is why they don't know they shouldnt step in puddles, they are untrained
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 11:37:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:37:36 PM" ) )5:37 PM yesterday
@Jim Carver Greg Palast is excellent, and that is a very good article.
by James Ward at 3/28/2011 11:37:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:37:11 PM" ) )5:37 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy: just look elainekirk post below...
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 11:37:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:37:08 PM" ) )5:37 PM yesterday
@Duncan No worries - glad to hear from you
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 11:37:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:37:01 PM" ) )5:37 PM yesterday
@Duncan No apologies needed !!
by d_news at 3/28/2011 11:36:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:36:59 PM" ) )5:36 PM yesterday
@Duncan no apologies necessary.
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 11:36:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:36:49 PM" ) )5:36 PM yesterday
Thanks got it!
by fitter at 3/28/2011 11:36:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:36:46 PM" ) )5:36 PM yesterday
@elainekirk WOW, no insurance for NUCLEAR ??.How can the Goverment allow this ?
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 11:36:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:36:45 PM" ) )5:36 PM yesterday
@elise Great if it spurred mutation of the local microbes into plasticophages! And poetic justice if they then ate all our undersea fiber optic cables! :-)
by Alin at 3/28/2011 11:36:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:36:01 PM" ) )5:36 PM yesterday
Oh this is pathetic..KYODO News Ticker....Japan jobless Rate falls to 4.8%........i guess, the what was it 200.000 evacuees all have a job ?
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 11:35:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:35:24 PM" ) )5:35 PM yesterday
Every day this whole situation just seems to get worse and worse. Whilst the British Embassy advises against all non-essential travel to Tokyo/North Japan I can't get any insurance. My girlfriend is in Tokyo on her own, with her mother in hospital. I miss her like crazy and just want to get out there. Unrelated I know, but I just needed to vent somewhere. Apologies.
by Duncan at 3/28/2011 11:35:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:35:22 PM" ) )5:35 PM yesterday
Quantitative Easing - devaluing the dollar by creating more
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 11:35:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:35:18 PM" ) )5:35 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien OK, someone remind me. There was a story a few days ago about the Insurance. That TEPCO dropped their reactor coverage in June of last year? What were the details of that? Anyone remember?
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:35:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:35:14 PM" ) )5:35 PM yesterday
@GEORGE WHAT DOES QE54 STAND FOR
by fitter at 3/28/2011 11:34:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:34:33 PM" ) )5:34 PM yesterday
@George Gibb. obviously my last comment was incomplete I hit the comment button by mistake. I've been going over some stills I captured from video and photos and I found the reactor vessel head (big yellow ball) that was in the video from 3-27-11 as far back as 3-16-11. I've emailed them to you hoping you can add them here. I'm having technical issues with my Mac at the moment.
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 11:34:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:34:19 PM" ) )5:34 PM yesterday
Tepco has not bought any property insurance cover for its power stations since September 2010, German reinsurance sources said. Instead, it opted to pay for damages itself, following the example of companies such as BP that recently had to meet the cost of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. www.commercialriskeurope.com
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 11:34:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:34:18 PM" ) )5:34 PM yesterday
@George Gibb: so right...
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 11:33:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:33:57 PM" ) )5:33 PM yesterday
@MaryMary That's the story.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:33:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:33:32 PM" ) )5:33 PM yesterday
@fitter lol QE54
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 11:33:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:33:32 PM" ) )5:33 PM yesterday
The video the my image caps came from, lots of different views there. youtu.be
by openmind at 3/28/2011 11:33:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:33:22 PM" ) )5:33 PM yesterday
@ jo linden don't worry about it the US congress will right another check...
by fitter at 3/28/2011 11:33:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:33:09 PM" ) )5:33 PM yesterday
@elise Oh no.... irradiation of the garbage patch. If this were a 50's B-movie sci-fi, pretty soon we'd have Godzilla marching on Tokyo.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:33:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:33:06 PM" ) )5:33 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien The tax payers are already flipping the bill every time the GOJ injects money into the economy to stabilize it.
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 11:32:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:32:32 PM" ) )5:32 PM yesterday
Those poor whales can't catch a break....before, they were haunted and now they have to leave the area.......i wonder if their sonar capabilities will protect them ?
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 11:32:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:32:14 PM" ) )5:32 PM yesterday
@peter i don't know waiting for dean to come back... but its scary to see what they discount (not just in the SFP) as not going to happen... how long did it take just to get water on the reactors, never mind the pools....
by fitter at 3/28/2011 11:31:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:31:14 PM" ) )5:31 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy ....is that the one where TEPCO is partnering with a company in Texas(?)to build a plant?
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 11:30:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:30:41 PM" ) )5:30 PM yesterday
@Karen Warren: I heard of this. But I'm quite sure that Tepco will not be able to cover the damages so the taxpayer will have to, whenever it will be declared an "act of god" or not
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 11:30:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:30:23 PM" ) )5:30 PM yesterday
@Jim Carver Greg Palast will drive you to conspiratorial frothing if you read too much of him, but as a former RICO investigator, he knows his stuff. That's a great story. I knew nothing about that plan.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:29:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:29:37 PM" ) )5:29 PM yesterday
@MaryMary Thank you.
by Reed at 3/28/2011 11:29:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:29:33 PM" ) )5:29 PM yesterday
one nation under dog.
by elise at 3/28/2011 11:29:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:29:11 PM" ) )5:29 PM yesterday
it will probably irradiate the great pacific garbage patch...sigh ~ i m wondering how long this is really sustainable
by elise at 3/28/2011 11:28:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:28:34 PM" ) )5:28 PM yesterday
@openmind Agree. Astonishing to me that anyone thinks otherwise.
by es at 3/28/2011 11:28:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:28:33 PM" ) )5:28 PM yesterday
@openmind You must be signed in to see this content.
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 11:28:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:28:30 PM" ) )5:28 PM yesterday
@Reed ...nice
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 11:27:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:27:58 PM" ) )5:27 PM yesterday
@es - It's from a utube video close-up, frame by frame, with a little more contrast and saturation. How can this not be MAJOR damage? www.flickr.com
by openmind at 3/28/2011 11:27:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:27:52 PM" ) )5:27 PM yesterday
@fitter, I read the document. Obviously this incident proved their assumptions wrong. But do we know whether the type of fuel rod assembly was the same?
by Peter Melzer at 3/28/2011 11:27:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:27:41 PM" ) )5:27 PM yesterday
@Alin don't want to be a cynic, but looking at pacific current I guess most of it (as long as it gets away from the Japanese cost) is probably going to end up in the great north pacific garbage patch with all the other pollution.
by sims at 3/28/2011 11:26:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:26:55 PM" ) )5:26 PM yesterday
@Matsuoko I tried looking him up....shoulda known when his name didn't come up
by d_news at 3/28/2011 11:26:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:26:46 PM" ) )5:26 PM yesterday
Those of us in the States have been somewhat focused on airborne radioactive particulates - but I wonder if the stuff being found in the sea might not eventually (next year?) cause a more difficult set of problems for the West coast of the US - both directly, and concentrated in the food chain. btw: I completely appreciate that our problems pale into insignificance compared to the local issues, but just wondering.
by Alin at 3/28/2011 11:25:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:25:44 PM" ) )5:25 PM yesterday
Better Avatar testing ?
by Reed at 3/28/2011 11:25:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:25:03 PM" ) )5:25 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien: TEPCO's liability could be limited (can't remember the amount & no time to find it now) if the GoJ declares the nuclear situation an 'act of God' (caused by the earthquake/tsunami). Interesting legally - at least to me.
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 11:24:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:24:13 PM" ) )5:24 PM yesterday
@Jim Carver Palast is a flamethrower, but an excellent investigator.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:23:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:23:53 PM" ) )5:23 PM yesterday
@d_news : forget that video, idiot just talking blablabla - redundant BS
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 11:23:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:23:43 PM" ) )5:23 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien Makes sense then. I am more worried about the pressure in R1 now.
by gabe at 3/28/2011 11:22:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:22:07 PM" ) )5:22 PM yesterday
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@sims: you're right; I did not remember having seen the pressure so low before. And you're right: what's going on inside is going for more than a week. Or the pressure sensors give false values all this time, which would be a good news.
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 11:21:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:21:46 PM" ) )5:21 PM yesterday
This one's a couple weeks old, but well worth it. This guy knew then what we know now. "Tokyo Electric to Build US Nuclear Plants: The No BS Info on Japan's Disastrous Nuclear Operators" www.truth-out.org
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 11:21:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:21:37 PM" ) )5:21 PM yesterday
@es Hydrogen explosion after venting.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:21:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:21:10 PM" ) )5:21 PM yesterday
by James Ward at 3/28/2011 11:20:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:20:33 PM" ) )5:20 PM yesterday
@openmind Good sequence of shots. Thanks. So that was the SFP?
by es at 3/28/2011 11:20:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:20:22 PM" ) )5:20 PM yesterday
Expert Explains Plutonium Find Near Japan Plant www.youtube.com
by d_news at 3/28/2011 11:20:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:20:15 PM" ) )5:20 PM yesterday
Fukushima, Japan – The water in a trench outside the Fukushima Daichi nuclear plant reactor No. 2 building was found to have high level of radiation, according to Kyodo News on Monday, March 28, 2011.
As noted in the report, Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) discovered on Sunday afternoon that the radiation level is now more than 1,000 millisieverts per hour, or was said to be about 100,000 times than the normal level.
The concrete trench, which is around 3 meters wide and 4 meters high, is located in the compound of the Fukushima nuclear plant but outside the control of radiation area.
Meanwhile, TEPCO stressed out that the contaminated water is not flowing to the sea, as the affected trench is about 55 meters away from the sea shore.
On the other hand, the company said that the similar trench for the reactor No. 1 has a radiation level of 0.4 millisievert per hour only.
Apparently, the radiation level for reactor No. 3 was not measured due to the difficulty in going near the area, as it is being covered by debris. www.batangastoday.com
by audi at 3/28/2011 11:19:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:19:35 PM" ) )5:19 PM yesterday
@Alaskan ...lol...I know...I was trying to come back with a snappy reply....
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 11:19:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:19:15 PM" ) )5:19 PM yesterday
@MaryMary -- just realized my comment could be taken as me wishing you had never been born -- NOT what I meant!
by Alaskan at 3/28/2011 11:18:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:18:29 PM" ) )5:18 PM yesterday
by sims at 3/28/2011 11:18:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:18:17 PM" ) )5:18 PM yesterday
@gabe: the temp at nozzle falling may be due to the fact they now inject water through the feedwater cooling line instead of the fire extinguish line; then the temperature sensor may be just in the cool water flood.
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 11:18:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:18:09 PM" ) )5:18 PM yesterday
@Sky They take pressure at the top and middle of reactor vessel. at the top, there's mostly steam, the middle is water.
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 11:18:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:18:08 PM" ) )5:18 PM yesterday
@ MaryMary: make that *should* ever have children!
by Alaskan at 3/28/2011 11:17:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:17:44 PM" ) )5:17 PM yesterday
14 March Explosion at Reactor 3
in the second frame you can see the fireball start on the east side of the building, and at the same time the lower part of the west side blows out farm6.static.flickr.com
by openmind via Farm6.static.flickr at 3/28/2011 11:17:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:17:32 PM" ) )5:17 PM yesterday
Second thing is who are the players directly involved? Tepco, local firemen, sub contractors? online.wsj.com mentions Tokyo-based Tokai Toso Co. and nuclear-site construction specialist Hokuto Kogyo Co.
by Pat at 3/28/2011 11:17:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:17:29 PM" ) )5:17 PM yesterday
@Alaskan ...I can remember my dad telling about flying (WWII Air Corps) coast to coast sharing the airplane cargo area with a bomb...a big bomb....and him being told none of them would probably ever have children.
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 11:17:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:17:00 PM" ) )5:17 PM yesterday
Soooooooooo, we now have an american Doctor "how convinient" that is advising the Japanese GOVT. due to his experience @Chernobyl, ..to which to this date, NO OFFICIAL statistics are available.
That really helps.....
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 11:16:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:16:53 PM" ) )5:16 PM yesterday
@jo linden thought it was reported as -0.35 at some pt last week, so whatever is going on there has been going on for a while
by sims at 3/28/2011 11:16:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:16:49 PM" ) )5:16 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien @sims There's been speculation about one of the meters being blown enough to give false readings. It was days back, but it could be that.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:16:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:16:01 PM" ) )5:16 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien Thoughts as to how this is happening? What could cause this?
by Meretisa at 3/28/2011 11:15:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:15:50 PM" ) )5:15 PM yesterday
@sims: pressure was not so low in #2 reactor. Was about -.2 MPa. Now it's reported as -.3 MPa. It's not so easy to drop the pressure below athmospheric pressure ...
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 11:14:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:14:59 PM" ) )5:14 PM yesterday
@MaryMary I was a wee pup, and I have a can of tuna hidden in the crawlspace just in case.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:14:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:14:48 PM" ) )5:14 PM yesterday
Be back in in a bit.
by gabe at 3/28/2011 11:14:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:14:31 PM" ) )5:14 PM yesterday
More perspective: I spent my childhood (mid-50s to mid-60s) in the US Midwest. Got lots of extra radiation from atmospheric nuclear tests during that time period. Tests were conducted in the US, Pacific islands, and China. Anyone in the N. hemisphere who was alive then got more radiation as I understand it than any of us, apart from residents of Japan, will get from this incident.
by Alaskan at 3/28/2011 11:14:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:14:00 PM" ) )5:14 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien What about the temp at the nozzle falling though?
by gabe at 3/28/2011 11:13:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:13:44 PM" ) )5:13 PM yesterday
@Karen Warren: of course taxpayer will cover the cost. Maybe you don't know but here, in France, all insurence contracts says that there will never be any coverage in case of a nuclear accident.
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 11:13:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:13:19 PM" ) )5:13 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy or we all should have been a lot more nervous in the 50's and 60's...oops...I'm probably one of few who was here then......lol
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 11:13:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:13:11 PM" ) )5:13 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy they always find an excuse for anything. very clever mr edano.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 11:13:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:13:06 PM" ) )5:13 PM yesterday
It's never been clear to me what the A and B pressure numbers are, and whether they are absolute pressure or difference above/below atmospheric. The guy who put together the graphs pinned in the header to this page seems to have figured it out though, don't you think?
by Sky at 3/28/2011 11:13:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:13:06 PM" ) )5:13 PM yesterday
@Jo Linden the pressure readings in R2 have been that low for almost a week
by sims at 3/28/2011 11:12:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:12:42 PM" ) )5:12 PM yesterday
I'm having trouble following the layers of subtext here. First they announce huge radioactivity, then oops, we were wrong, then they test Pu in the soil, and have 100% success, then they admit a release from the core, then they say it's no worse than background from testing in the 50s and 60s. Talk about a mixed message.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:11:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:11:59 PM" ) )5:11 PM yesterday
@gabe: I hope the pressure mesurements are false. The only way I can figure such a drop in pressure is a very quick oxydation consuming all available air in there; in other term some kind of fire. Hope that's not the way it is.
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 11:11:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:11:40 PM" ) )5:11 PM yesterday
@CaraBnr Pu is difficult to diffuse widely.
by gabe at 3/28/2011 11:11:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:11:36 PM" ) )5:11 PM yesterday
@Optim : they constantly spray it with that monster concrete pump. that should help until they have to evacuate the whole plant ....
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 11:11:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:11:32 PM" ) )5:11 PM yesterday
by VeenOui via Pointscope01.jp at 3/28/2011 11:10:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:10:20 PM" ) )5:10 PM yesterday
yeah, well, .54 Bq/kg is about one billionth the concentration/activity of cesium they found in the water.. just to put it in perspective...
by sims at 3/28/2011 11:09:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:09:48 PM" ) )5:09 PM yesterday
I thoiught half life was 211,000 years
by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 11:09:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:09:22 PM" ) )5:09 PM yesterday
@ALL- did you see this already: english.kyodonews.jp Detected in N and S Carolina and Florida now.
by Meretisa at 3/28/2011 11:09:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:09:16 PM" ) )5:09 PM yesterday
two things: eye witness report of earthwuake at plant. one question is geology of the plant site, I assume it was a man made site, a embankment or platform created by bulldozers at a certain level above shore. www.peopleforum.cn
by Pat at 3/28/2011 11:09:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:09:15 PM" ) )5:09 PM yesterday
@Matsuoko @Sin: r#4 has been behaving ok since lst 3-4 right? Haven't heard any news about it for last 2-3 days..Did i miss smtg/
by Optim at 3/28/2011 11:09:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:09:15 PM" ) )5:09 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien I am Baffled as to what would cause that strange mix of symptoms...we need Dean.
by gabe at 3/28/2011 11:09:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:09:00 PM" ) )5:09 PM yesterday
NHK says .54 becquerel of pleutonium found and that it isn't considered to be diffused so widely
by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 11:08:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:08:41 PM" ) )5:08 PM yesterday
Plutonium is an especially toxic and long-lasting radioactive material,said Akira Tokuhiro, professor of mechanical and nuclear engineering at the University of Idaho. . One plutonium isotope has a half-life of 1 million years.
by audi at 3/28/2011 11:08:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:08:37 PM" ) )5:08 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy : maybe from nagasaki ? what happenened to all that plutonium over nagasaki ?
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 11:08:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:08:14 PM" ) )5:08 PM yesterday
Well no big deal then. Nothing of consequence released. grrrrrrrr
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:08:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:08:01 PM" ) )5:08 PM yesterday
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Not ours.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:07:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:07:14 PM" ) )5:07 PM yesterday
Not out plutonium. Nope.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:07:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:07:07 PM" ) )5:07 PM yesterday
@Optim the unspent fuel rods were being stored in the SFP of number 4.
by Sin at 3/28/2011 11:07:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:07:05 PM" ) )5:07 PM yesterday
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 11:06:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:06:15 PM" ) )5:06 PM yesterday
@Optim : because there is a full sfp and the containment head could have fallen in there.
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 11:06:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:06:00 PM" ) )5:06 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy Nice resources in that link...Thanks
by d_news at 3/28/2011 11:04:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:04:41 PM" ) )5:04 PM yesterday
@tenzing: I meant r#4...
by Optim at 3/28/2011 11:04:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:04:36 PM" ) )5:04 PM yesterday
@tenxing: If R#$ was empty at the time of earthquake why bother by what happened to it. Just as frame for reference for other reactors?
by Optim at 3/28/2011 11:03:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:03:57 PM" ) )5:03 PM yesterday
@VeenOui It's alpha radiation
by es at 3/28/2011 11:03:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:03:43 PM" ) )5:03 PM yesterday
@VeenOui plutonium oxide can't enflame anything
by sims at 3/28/2011 11:03:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:03:35 PM" ) )5:03 PM yesterday
@nhklistener thankyou
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 11:03:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:03:21 PM" ) )5:03 PM yesterday
@NHK Listener Ugh
by es at 3/28/2011 11:03:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:03:13 PM" ) )5:03 PM yesterday
What ? Plutonium can be shielded by a sheet of paper......how does this work if it can enflame material ?
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 11:03:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:03:07 PM" ) )5:03 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 11:03:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:03:04 PM" ) )5:03 PM yesterday
@elainekirk of no 3
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 11:02:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:02:26 PM" ) )5:02 PM yesterday
@elainekirk Stored in the sfp
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 11:02:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:02:14 PM" ) )5:02 PM yesterday
@nhklistener ok thanks do we know where it is stored? I must have been out
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 11:01:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:01:38 PM" ) )5:01 PM yesterday
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:01:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:01:04 PM" ) )5:01 PM yesterday
@gabe: don't know what to think about #2 data: water level drop from -1.2 to -1.5m, temperature rising at the top but dropping at the feedwater nozzle, pressure increadibly low: -0.3 MPa from athmospheric pressure (!)... what could this mean ?
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 11:00:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:00:37 PM" ) )5:00 PM yesterday
This comprehensive list of links came up in a random search.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 11:00:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 11:00:36 PM" ) )5:00 PM yesterday
@elainekirk Was ny times article
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 10:59:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:59:57 PM" ) )4:59 PM yesterday
@elainekirk I posted it below
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 10:59:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:59:36 PM" ) )4:59 PM yesterday
T - 3 min to NHK LIVE
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 10:59:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:59:17 PM" ) )4:59 PM yesterday
@ALL Potassium Iodide is pretty much sold out in Victoria, British Columbia and any available has quadrupled in price. Not likely required due the short life but shows how concerned people are downwind. Can't imagine what people are going through in Japan. Great forum.
by stevejh00 at 3/28/2011 10:58:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:58:20 PM" ) )4:58 PM yesterday
To add more horror to an already unimaginable event: "Japan’s taxpayer, not the nuclear industry or insurers, will cover most of the cleanup cost from the worst accident since Chernobyl, a financial rescue that may spur moves by nations to make companies assume more liability." www.bloomberg.com
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 10:58:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:58:10 PM" ) )4:58 PM yesterday
Sorry if this is a repeat but I am wondering where the rest of the mox is if they only started using it last year? is it stored at fukushima? docs.google.com(1)&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgDEqHOUbkaep8c-lE_ZHSals7gEOZlb4P9QTq7gzHYWD_utZuEAgt8xLLxie9wWwKDQlrjRwEtUjluOWYOnI1iYDoEC05GLkdZr8XGSM_uTQ6B8eDlrbwQ6OEkWIw53w2dyaUL&sig=AHIEtbSf70unekAu-ylrwHMNivOISdZkcA&pli=1 OVER the next few weeks, two ships carrying a secret cargo of dangerous, nuclear weapons-usable
plutonium fuel will leave ports in Britain and France and sail around the globe to Japan. On board will
be fuel containing more plutonium than in the entire Indian and Pakistani nuclear weapons
programmes.(1)
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 10:58:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:58:03 PM" ) )4:58 PM yesterday
@Beautiful Scientific Minds: This is my theory based on what I've learned to date. Reactor No. 4 The reactor vessel head was suspended from the crane at the time of the earthquake/tsunami and due to the force of the earthquake
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 10:56:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:56:45 PM" ) )4:56 PM yesterday
@gabe YESSS.thank you !!
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 10:56:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:56:36 PM" ) )4:56 PM yesterday
by gabe at 3/28/2011 10:56:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:56:04 PM" ) )4:56 PM yesterday
Danged, Dean would know, he saw it and liked it
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 10:55:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:55:33 PM" ) )4:55 PM yesterday
It had all sorts of data readings from gates etc.you could choose your languagee
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 10:54:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:54:35 PM" ) )4:54 PM yesterday
@VeenOui What was it a link to?
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:54:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:54:12 PM" ) )4:54 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien No all temps in C(so far) I think the 400C reading were a few days back, it is up 100 since the 3/27 set from NISA but <400 still
by gabe at 3/28/2011 10:53:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:53:55 PM" ) )4:53 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy was something with atomic.jp
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 10:52:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:52:34 PM" ) )4:52 PM yesterday
@VeenOui : me either, was just a joke
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 10:52:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:52:11 PM" ) )4:52 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien You are correct H20 has dropped ~100mm
by gabe at 3/28/2011 10:52:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:52:09 PM" ) )4:52 PM yesterday
@VeenOui Which link?
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:52:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:52:01 PM" ) )4:52 PM yesterday
@gabe: not sure about #1 temperature: seems to me that Tepco was once announcing ~400 °C when nisa reported less; or did I misunderstood and 400 were Farenheit ?
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 10:51:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:51:45 PM" ) )4:51 PM yesterday
@Reed I do not see your Avatar
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 10:51:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:51:28 PM" ) )4:51 PM yesterday
@Reed Nope, it'll show on ur screen.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 10:51:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:51:21 PM" ) )4:51 PM yesterday
@jim carver yes @radioguy thank you
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 10:51:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:51:10 PM" ) )4:51 PM yesterday
Hey, does anybody have the link saved, that i posted a .who knows when day or so ago ??
I thought it was atomic.jp ?
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 10:50:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:50:38 PM" ) )4:50 PM yesterday
@Reed : very nice
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 10:50:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:50:24 PM" ) )4:50 PM yesterday
@NHK Listener Ahh TY
by d_news at 3/28/2011 10:50:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:50:12 PM" ) )4:50 PM yesterday
Avatar test...
by Reed at 3/28/2011 10:50:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:50:00 PM" ) )4:50 PM yesterday
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@d_news That is a retracted ny times article
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 10:49:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:49:49 PM" ) )4:49 PM yesterday
@Jo and all R1 Feedwater nozzle temp up >100C since the last set of readings on the 27th.
by gabe at 3/28/2011 10:49:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:49:37 PM" ) )4:49 PM yesterday
Pressure A and B are separate gauges? Above waterline below? (well, what was the waterline.)
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:49:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:49:21 PM" ) )4:49 PM yesterday
@CaraBnr “A senior nuclear executive who insisted on anonymity but has broad contacts in Japan said that there was a long vertical crack running down the side of the reactor vessel itself. The crack runs down below the water level in the reactor and has been leaking fluids and gases, he said….
“There is a definite, definite crack in the vessel — it’s up and down and it’s large,” he said. “The problem with cracks is they do not get smaller.” (Thanks to Washington’s Blog) www.eurasiareview.com Don;t know how reliable this news source is but the picture is grim. I was looking for NYTimes blog about teh crack.
by d_news at 3/28/2011 10:49:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:49:05 PM" ) )4:49 PM yesterday
@gabe: yes the pressure seem to have risen a lot. And #3 water level seems to have dropped (-1.8 m / - 2.25m), no ?
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 10:48:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:48:54 PM" ) )4:48 PM yesterday
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:47:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:47:31 PM" ) )4:47 PM yesterday
@dtinla put a www in front of that link and it works
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:46:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:46:58 PM" ) )4:46 PM yesterday
R1: RPV Pressure A:0.495 B:0.601
by gabe at 3/28/2011 10:45:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:45:16 PM" ) )4:45 PM yesterday
@elainekirk You mean Dai-ini
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 10:45:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:45:16 PM" ) )4:45 PM yesterday
@elainekirk yes
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:44:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:44:13 PM" ) )4:44 PM yesterday
nisa.meti.go.jp/english/files/en20110327-2-2.pdf
by dtinla at 3/28/2011 10:43:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:43:18 PM" ) )4:43 PM yesterday
@marie rich calling it spam again when i try to post link
by dtinla at 3/28/2011 10:42:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:42:14 PM" ) )4:42 PM yesterday
@d_news nice find that story on radiation reporting
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 10:41:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:41:39 PM" ) )4:41 PM yesterday
@marie rich here is an english version from march 27, 2011 for comparison. translate not working for me.
by dtinla at 3/28/2011 10:41:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:41:34 PM" ) )4:41 PM yesterday
@Radioguy www.nisa.meti.go.jp from Dtnia posted a few posts back. In Japanese though
by gabe at 3/28/2011 10:41:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:41:12 PM" ) )4:41 PM yesterday
If they followed advice and widened evac zone would that place the other plant in the no-go area?
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 10:40:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:40:59 PM" ) )4:40 PM yesterday
My apologies if this has already been posted: www.ccnr.org Describes the infamous fire at Brown's Ferry nuclear plant in Alabama, started by a candle. Open flames had not been factored into the plant's safety plans and risk analysis. These plans obviously need beta-testing by folks like us!
by Alaskan at 3/28/2011 10:40:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:40:56 PM" ) )4:40 PM yesterday
will be back later gotta make pizza. Looks like I figured out the avatar.
by Nancy at 3/28/2011 10:40:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:40:05 PM" ) )4:40 PM yesterday
@gabe new data?
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:39:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:39:46 PM" ) )4:39 PM yesterday
@dtinla @marie rich Looks like the pressure in R1 is still increasing...
by gabe at 3/28/2011 10:39:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:39:26 PM" ) )4:39 PM yesterday
Avatar test.
by Sky at 3/28/2011 10:39:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:39:22 PM" ) )4:39 PM yesterday
@CaraBnr : could as well be the spent fuel pool
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 10:39:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:39:22 PM" ) )4:39 PM yesterday
What are the levels of plutonium?
by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 10:39:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:39:10 PM" ) )4:39 PM yesterday
@Matsuoko I dunno... we might not take anything you say seriously.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:39:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:39:03 PM" ) )4:39 PM yesterday
Does this all mean that reactor #3 is breached?
by CaraBnr at 3/28/2011 10:38:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:38:41 PM" ) )4:38 PM yesterday
is this better or the other ?
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 10:38:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:38:23 PM" ) )4:38 PM yesterday
@dtinla Thanks. now i'll try to use google translate *gulp*
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 10:38:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:38:22 PM" ) )4:38 PM yesterday
I'm really baffled by the lethargic way thjs is being escalated.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:36:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:36:52 PM" ) )4:36 PM yesterday
Thanks, Mary Mary. See ya later.
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 10:36:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:36:14 PM" ) )4:36 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy Yeah add that into the "cost of doing business", tearing people away from their home and life just because we need "cheap" power.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 10:36:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:36:11 PM" ) )4:36 PM yesterday
Oh god... we'd never make it out alive. ;)
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:36:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:36:08 PM" ) )4:36 PM yesterday
@marie rich you were asking for nisa info earlier...here is a doc dated 3.29.2011 in japanese, pdf file www.nisa.meti.go.jp
by dtinla at 3/28/2011 10:35:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:35:31 PM" ) )4:35 PM yesterday
@VeenOui That oughta be rich. And by that, I mean let's see how many waffle words they use. If it were a drinking game I bet none of us would be conscious by the end.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:34:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:34:13 PM" ) )4:34 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy ....they believe that the levels of radiation are not harmful to human health...
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 10:34:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:34:06 PM" ) )4:34 PM yesterday
Gaps in US radiation monitoring system revealednice find www.presstv.ir
by d_news edited by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 10:33:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:33:20 PM" ) )4:33 PM yesterday
Listening to the story about people staying in the exclusion areas because of pets, and ties to their homes and the like. They are being "offered the chance" to leave, and maybe advised in very gentle terms. Perhaps it's time to start taking the gloves off of that soft sell.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:32:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:32:54 PM" ) )4:32 PM yesterday
From Jeffery Lewis Arms Control Wonkhttp://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/3816/fepc-info-sheet-328#more-1368 Greetings from the Carnegie International Nuclear Policy Conference aka Nukestock.
"We had an oddly bloodless discussion this morning of the unfolding events at Fukushima. One thing that struck me about the panel, with perhaps Mark Hibbs excepted, was the gap in perception between nuclear industry and the public at large. The panel seemed to view this as an unfortunate inconveneince for the coming nuclear renaissance. To me, at least, that seems like the captain of the Titanic wondering whether he’s still going to make his dinner reservations."
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 10:31:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:31:57 PM" ) )4:31 PM yesterday
T - 30 to next NHK LIVE
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 10:31:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:31:49 PM" ) )4:31 PM yesterday
Edano would be nice avatar
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 10:30:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:30:41 PM" ) )4:30 PM yesterday
My avatar is 2 TEPCO engineers spraying water on the SFP
by FradyKat at 3/28/2011 10:30:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:30:03 PM" ) )4:30 PM yesterday
I guess I'll have to take time and get one, too.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 10:29:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:29:51 PM" ) )4:29 PM yesterday
@fitter: the PU they detected were TINY amounts, if something like that had happened they'd have measured quite large amounts
by sims at 3/28/2011 10:29:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:29:34 PM" ) )4:29 PM yesterday
Well, Japan has the most Samarui's
by FradyKat at 3/28/2011 10:29:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:29:04 PM" ) )4:29 PM yesterday
@Matsuoko Dayumn
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 10:29:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:29:01 PM" ) )4:29 PM yesterday
@Matsuoko LOL
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 10:28:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:28:44 PM" ) )4:28 PM yesterday
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Avatar test
by Matsuoko at 3/28/2011 10:28:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:28:18 PM" ) )4:28 PM yesterday
@Pedro Jesus No, when you are fisrt logging in just select one in the brows box for avatar. it won't display if it's over 50x50
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:28:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:28:06 PM" ) )4:28 PM yesterday
would like some feedback on best quess... if they lost the SFP during the explosion #3, what would the outcome of the water be and how hot would it have been? also would the explosion have caused a vacuum and pull the water into the atmosphere... would it have had pu in it from the fuel stored there..
by fitter at 3/28/2011 10:28:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:28:02 PM" ) )4:28 PM yesterday
@elainekirk Oh no. I had worried about this becoming an issue. Japan has one of the world's highest suicide rates.
by Jay77 at 3/28/2011 10:27:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:27:50 PM" ) )4:27 PM yesterday
@Karen Warren ...that's all you need...just logout of that and go back to the original comment box (where it asks for your display name)...add the avatar right there (box on left) then sign back in
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 10:27:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:27:34 PM" ) )4:27 PM yesterday
@elainekirk truely sad that story
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 10:27:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:27:28 PM" ) )4:27 PM yesterday
@sims No re-processing in the usa.. It is illegal
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 10:27:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:27:21 PM" ) )4:27 PM yesterday
Wind direction on the time around the 14th was N, NNE and NE over Daiichi. Anyone work out on that soil sample map, what was the direction of the line they were sampling?
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:27:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:27:15 PM" ) )4:27 PM yesterday
'evening :)
by Kat at 3/28/2011 10:26:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:26:41 PM" ) )4:26 PM yesterday
@elainekirk SAd, so very unfair...
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 10:26:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:26:23 PM" ) )4:26 PM yesterday
I've been signing in from my gmail account. I would assume my avatar from gmail would be presented here. Can I put an avatar here under these conditions or do I have to use a Scribble account to do that?
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 10:26:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:26:07 PM" ) )4:26 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien Yeah I've been reading about it. It's only been in the "fringe" sources though.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 10:26:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:26:06 PM" ) )4:26 PM yesterday
@Jo Linden - MOX can be either, in US it's all from nukes, in europe it's reprocessed spent fuel
by sims at 3/28/2011 10:26:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:26:02 PM" ) )4:26 PM yesterday
@Jim Carver: really ? Not what Areva tells to us here in France. But....
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 10:24:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:24:55 PM" ) )4:24 PM yesterday
@MaryMary: I'm not logged in. I can't create an account except for a trial one.
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 10:24:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:24:22 PM" ) )4:24 PM yesterday
*21Mar, 22Mar*
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 10:24:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:24:20 PM" ) )4:24 PM yesterday
@fitter You got that right. And actuaries.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:24:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:24:15 PM" ) )4:24 PM yesterday
@radioGuy 2/3 of the people workig on the "releases" are laywers...
by fitter at 3/28/2011 10:23:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:23:48 PM" ) )4:23 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy and remember these samples are from @@1Mar & 22Mar. How much higher are the levels now, with all of that rad water seeping out?
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 10:23:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:23:23 PM" ) )4:23 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien They've been trying to dump the Pu into the fuel pool from dismantled weapons. Don't know about this, but that is another issue.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 10:23:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:23:12 PM" ) )4:23 PM yesterday
@Karen Warren ....Karen...did you see the instructions above?
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 10:23:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:23:01 PM" ) )4:23 PM yesterday
Nuclear pollutions first victim? Mulboyne Mulboyne
by Mutantfroginc
Asahi reports that a Fukushima farmer, faced with the collapse of his livelihood, has committed suicide: isshocking.gd (J)
by elainekirk edited by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 10:23:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:23:01 PM" ) )4:23 PM yesterday
Carefully worded releases. They always make sure to slightly discredit the danger of the plutonium, and the levels, by saying 3 of the samples are not that much above background from the "nuclear past".
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:22:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:22:00 PM" ) )4:22 PM yesterday
@es: mox is recycled nuclear reactors fuel, not from weapons
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 10:20:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:20:52 PM" ) )4:20 PM yesterday
I am a freeloader, so.... yea you can have a pic on your comments.
by FradyKat at 3/28/2011 10:20:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:20:26 PM" ) )4:20 PM yesterday
@Tenzing It is possible but it doesn't seem to be the case here. TEPCO has already officially admitted that the levels of concentration of Pu in 2 of those 5 samples are consistent with contamination directly linked to the recent incident at Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear power plant. Next step is to ascertain the exact origin of the leak. Is it from a spent fuel pool? Is it from a reactor's core? Is it both? And which units are leaking? They will have to determine all these before they can plan a final solution. And in the mean time it is imperious that they keep cooling those reactors and their pools.
by Pedro Jesus at 3/28/2011 10:20:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:20:25 PM" ) )4:20 PM yesterday
@es That's what I've read also.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 10:20:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:20:14 PM" ) )4:20 PM yesterday
@Karen Warren You just have to make your avatar 50x50 px or less
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:19:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:19:53 PM" ) )4:19 PM yesterday
@Tenzing Correct in that MOX rods are recycled weapons, I suppose.
by es at 3/28/2011 10:19:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:19:31 PM" ) )4:19 PM yesterday
@george the text says it is before the tsunami ???
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 10:18:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:18:24 PM" ) )4:18 PM yesterday
Dumb question. Do you have to have a paid account on Scribble to have the extra features? Guess, freeloaders don't get to have avatars... lol.
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 10:18:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:18:07 PM" ) )4:18 PM yesterday
@Tenzing I am certain he said the plutonium sampled definately came from one of the reactors or SFP's, they just do not know which one.
by Treiagonaut at 3/28/2011 10:16:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:16:00 PM" ) )4:16 PM yesterday
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 10:15:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:15:49 PM" ) )4:15 PM yesterday
@you read the disclaimers added to this site
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 10:15:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:15:30 PM" ) )4:15 PM yesterday
@elainekirk oh ok
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 10:15:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:15:02 PM" ) )4:15 PM yesterday
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 10:14:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:14:38 PM" ) )4:14 PM yesterday
@george I put the same link again I thought someone was asking for footage of the site before the tsunami struck?
by elainekirk at 3/28/2011 10:14:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:14:37 PM" ) )4:14 PM yesterday
@Tenzing: same as MaryMary
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 10:14:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:14:33 PM" ) )4:14 PM yesterday
@Tenzing no...I think he said the levels were the same as they were during the 50's & 60's testing
by MaryMary at 3/28/2011 10:13:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:13:39 PM" ) )4:13 PM yesterday
@Tenzing Yes, I'm afraid that it is.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 10:13:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:13:22 PM" ) )4:13 PM yesterday
@elainekirk I'm a little confused - you have other footage not in that post?
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 10:12:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:12:50 PM" ) )4:12 PM yesterday
@all. did I understand the gentleman correctly on NHK News that the Pu found in the soil is from countries that have Nuclear Weapons and conducted testing in the 50's and 60's? Is that possible?
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 10:12:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:12:42 PM" ) )4:12 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy Man, it killed me the first few days when the talking heads and experts were minimizing. I yelled at the computer. "the turbines are floode, the fuel is tainted, there's mud evrywhere, the tools they use are washed away!!" I was a crazy woman. LOL
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 10:11:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:11:26 PM" ) )4:11 PM yesterday
@marie rich I've been waiting to see new R1 figures too. If it keeps creeping up they'll be nearing the necessity for a release some time soon.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:11:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:11:16 PM" ) )4:11 PM yesterday
by VeenOui at 3/28/2011 10:10:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:10:21 PM" ) )4:10 PM yesterday
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@PETER @ALL the site Tenzing sent Dean is amazing... is this the same type of SFP????... I think we are all assuming that these plant are built to standards that are NOT true.... Please read the second assumtion (pg 1) is a bit scarey.. as we have found out NOT TRUE... very interesting article
by fitter at 3/28/2011 10:10:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:10:15 PM" ) )4:10 PM yesterday
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 10:10:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:10:12 PM" ) )4:10 PM yesterday
For those who read French, here's a link to CRIIRAD
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 10:10:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:10:05 PM" ) )4:10 PM yesterday
@Jo Lindien: Thanks. Keep a fish eye on that connection.
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 10:09:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:09:40 PM" ) )4:09 PM yesterday
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 10:09:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:09:35 PM" ) )4:09 PM yesterday
@Karen Warren Yes, they've apparently fallen through all the reassurance mechanisms, and now they're trying to downplay the significance of plutonium. Really?
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:09:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:09:20 PM" ) )4:09 PM yesterday
@Tenzing: It appears that they have been conditioned.
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 10:08:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:08:45 PM" ) )4:08 PM yesterday
@george gibb I posted a link to video footage of the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant BEFORE the tsunami struck can you put the video on here I am not sure how to do it www.channeI4.com
by elainekirk edited by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 10:07:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:07:54 PM" ) )4:07 PM yesterday
Sorry was
by gabe at 3/28/2011 10:07:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:07:47 PM" ) )4:07 PM yesterday
by oli333 at 3/28/2011 10:07:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:07:44 PM" ) )4:07 PM yesterday
by VeenOui via Pointscope01.jp at 3/28/2011 10:07:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:07:41 PM" ) )4:07 PM yesterday
@marie rich NISA is on NHK now.
by gabe at 3/28/2011 10:07:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:07:27 PM" ) )4:07 PM yesterday
@Karen: about EDF, I live in France. There have been numerous incidents that have leaked radioactivity and CRIIRAD (an independent associationthat started to figure how much the government lied French people about Chernobyl) measures that show spots of radioactivity near some EDF / Areva plant while no warning were reported to the public
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 10:07:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:07:15 PM" ) )4:07 PM yesterday
@fitter There's truth to that. In fact, it's turning out to be the Achilles heel of our disaster preparations. The plans always seem to assume that normal support systems will not be in chaos, when in fact they always are.
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 10:06:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:06:29 PM" ) )4:06 PM yesterday
@All: large.stanford.edu "Such fears are not unfounded in an earthquake-prone country that has 54 nuclear reactors in all. In July 2007 a 6.8-magnitude earthquake shook the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa Nuclear Power Station north of Tokyo, which was the world's largest nuclear power plant in terms of electricity generation. The plant was damaged by the tremors and all seven of its reactors still remain inactive."
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 10:06:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:06:04 PM" ) )4:06 PM yesterday
@woodrat: Great link!
by MaryW at 3/28/2011 10:05:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:05:49 PM" ) )4:05 PM yesterday
@George Gibb No nisa reports either
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 10:05:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:05:47 PM" ) )4:05 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy: Not dangerous!!! It's not at the level that is harmful to human health.??? Geez! I can handle a certain level of 'polite' BS, but that is just simply over-the-top.
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 10:05:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:05:20 PM" ) )4:05 PM yesterday
*serious concern* I've been watching the temp and pressure in #1 and worrying that more trouble might happen. Now, NISA hasn't posted plant parameters, when all the 'other guys' posted thiers. If anyone sees thatnew data before I do, please let me know?
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 10:04:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:04:57 PM" ) )4:04 PM yesterday
We lack english coverage from Japan newspaper articles.
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 10:04:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:04:57 PM" ) )4:04 PM yesterday
@Karen: I know that the situation isn't easy for Tepco guys. They seem to act as in the fog; they're not helped by the fact they lost most of measuring instruments. From my feeling of this story, everytime they announced a bad new we soon discovered that a bigger problem was arising.
by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 10:04:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:04:34 PM" ) )4:04 PM yesterday
Radiation from Japan reactor detected in B.C. seaweed, rainwater; no risk to humans
“As of now, the levels we’re seeing are not harmful to humans. We’re basing this on Japanese studies following the Chernobyl incident in 1986 where levels of iodine-131 were four times higher than what we’ve detected in our rainwater so far,” Starosta said. “Studies of nuclear incidents and exposures are used to define radiation levels at which the increase in cancer risk is statistically significant. When compared to the information we have today, we have not reached levels of elevated risk.”
by d_news at 3/28/2011 10:04:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:04:31 PM" ) )4:04 PM yesterday
@Gordon That would explain the frantic use of helicopters.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 10:04:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:04:01 PM" ) )4:04 PM yesterday
@Jo lyn I agree its scary, but i am not sure TEPCO knows more than they are sayng
by fitter at 3/28/2011 10:03:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:03:59 PM" ) )4:03 PM yesterday
@All: large.stanford.edu "The Rokkasho Reprocessing Plant in the northern region of Aomori, which was the first commercial plant in a nonnuclear-weapon state, has also experienced troubles. Last year scientists said the plant was located above an active geological fault, sparking fears that an earthquake could damage the plant and release radiation."
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 10:03:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:03:39 PM" ) )4:03 PM yesterday
@Radio Guy: I
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 10:03:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:03:20 PM" ) )4:03 PM yesterday
@sims Finally an admission, what a strange article though, does it seem to anyone else out there that even with the scant details in the article the conclusion is obvious? There has been a corem melt and subsequent vessel breach. The remaining corem is now cool enough to seal the reactor (maintaining pressure) and at the same time the bottom of the melt that was cooled suddenly by water injection is porous and letting the water straight out. Ok so this is opinion but is in line with corem behavior in TMI, Chernobyl, Sandia Labs corem investigations and several papers published on actual experimental simulated corem melt scenarios. Comments would be appreciated.
by Gordon at 3/28/2011 10:02:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:02:58 PM" ) )4:02 PM yesterday
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 10:02:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:02:06 PM" ) )4:02 PM yesterday
@All: large.stanford.edu "Japan was expected to start burning MOX fuel in 16 to 18 commercial reactors by 2010. However, that plan also went off course when a scandal exposed in 1999 that British Nuclear Fuels had fabricated quality assurance data for MOX fuel exported to Japan."
"Tokyo Electric Power Co., which had planned to load MOX fuel into its commercial reactors, also spread distrust of nuclear energy among Japanese citizens in 2002 when it was discovered to have covered up a series of technical problems. So far, only seven reactors are ready to begin burning the fuel, including the Genkai plant."
by Tenzing at 3/28/2011 10:01:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:01:52 PM" ) )4:01 PM yesterday
@Marie Rich: Bravo... seriously!
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 10:01:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:01:51 PM" ) )4:01 PM yesterday
@Joe: What do you know about EDF other than the MOX 'experience?' Can you eloborate a bit? TIA
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 10:00:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:00:44 PM" ) )4:00 PM yesterday
@RadioGuy Well, they aren't succeeding hiding it from us. We made the call on reactor leaks around r. vessel pipes, on probability of spent fuel racks twisted, on 'dna signature of isotopes', on radwater leaking to the sea. We'll see if there is a re-criticality in fuel, if U.S. troops end up helping evac, entombment option process, and prob much more that I don't remember.
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 10:00:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:00:14 PM" ) )4:00 PM yesterday
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by Jo Lindien at 3/28/2011 10:00:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 10:00:11 PM" ) )4:00 PM yesterday
I haven't seen this link listed--appears to be a type of news aggregator on the Japan disaster:
by woodrat at 3/28/2011 9:58:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:58:46 PM" ) )3:58 PM yesterday
Some good stuff there. George. This jumped out at me:
"I apologize for making people worried," Sakae Muto, vice-president of under-pressure TEPCO, said at a briefing around midnight in Tokyo.
Yet he stressed the traces of plutonium 238, 239 and 240 were not dangerous and work would not be stopped.
"It's not at the level that's harmful to human health."
by RadioGuy at 3/28/2011 9:58:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:58:45 PM" ) )3:58 PM yesterday
by woodrat at 3/28/2011 9:58:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:58:40 PM" ) )3:58 PM yesterday
@Karen Warren I have had that site open since you posted it the first time.. Is good stuff for sure.
by NHK Listener at 3/28/2011 9:58:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:58:36 PM" ) )3:58 PM yesterday
@watching They're gone now, Sandra died in '96 or '95, I lost touch with the family. Dick died I know. Cay was still living a few years ago and I don't know what happened to San's sister. It's been so long and I live in Texas now.
by Jim Carver at 3/28/2011 9:57:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:57:43 PM" ) )3:57 PM yesterday
@Jo Linden: I have to give TEPCO a little more credit than that. Problem-solving isn't easy when there is no precedent established and the situation remains critical and fluid.
by Karen Warren at 3/28/2011 9:57:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:57:33 PM" ) )3:57 PM yesterday
by George Gibb at 3/28/2011 9:56:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:56:01 PM" ) )3:56 PM yesterday
@George Gibb Thanks for keeping us informed of media updates.
by es at 3/28/2011 9:54:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:54:32 PM" ) )3:54 PM yesterday
@George Gibb Japan: this morning the SG convened a meeting of heads of agencies, funds and programs (including IAEA DG, UNDP Administrator, etc.), on the international response to the developments resulting from the situation at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. In his remarks, he encouraged States to adopt innovative measures to strengthen the nuclear safety regime, and expressed his support for calls to reassess the international emergency response framework and the nuclear safety regime. These issues are likely to be taken up at the 5th Review Meeting of the Contracting Parties to the Convention on Nuclear Safety, being convened by IAEA in April, and the High-Level Meeting on Safety and Innovative Uses of Nuclear Energy in Kiev April 19.
by marie rich at 3/28/2011 9:54:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/28/2011 9:54:06 PM" ) )3:54 PM yesterday