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@elainekirk2001 I haven't thanked you properly for aiding George. Thanks so much

by marie rich at 3/26/2011 7:53:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:53:32 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:53:32 PM
yes George I am picking it up slowly but surely

by elainekirk at 3/26/2011 7:52:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:52:23 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:52:23 PM
I think a water spray over the area would help take out some of the particles going up

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:52:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:52:13 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:52:13 PM
Engineers toil to pump out Japan plant www.reuters.com

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 7:51:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:51:58 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:51:58 PM
@Janis [kidding, mode speeddate on] cool, a woman of my age ,-)

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:51:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:51:55 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:51:55 PM
radioguy.. none that I know of .. and the main thing in MOX is now they have a plutonium variable...

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:51:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:51:52 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:51:52 PM
@Rexz Sorry if you've answered this 100 times already, but what is their game plan? What could they use to cool these reactors? Molten lead, boric acid, liquid nitrogen, ??

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:51:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:51:04 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:51:04 PM
So I am not being rude. sorry.

by Janis at 3/26/2011 7:50:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:50:43 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:50:43 PM
@Dean or @whoever Have we ever had a MOX reactor fall into a state like this? Are there issues other than the toxicity of the radiation that will make it harder?

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:50:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:50:43 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:50:43 PM
@Dean totally agree on that, they lost some precious time, and if nothing bad happen, well, it will not have such a bad decision . but if something bad happen, government and Nisa and others will have a lot of casualties on their "souls". (conscience in french)

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:50:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:50:39 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:50:39 PM
I can ask because I really am old. 54. So I

by Janis at 3/26/2011 7:50:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:50:33 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:50:33 PM
Yeah, I'm really not too worried about catastophic failure, just the slow continuous leaking is my biggest one.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:50:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:50:25 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:50:25 PM
How old are you Dean?

by Janis at 3/26/2011 7:50:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:50:07 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:50:07 PM
future you just made me chuckle.. because I'm old..

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:49:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:49:14 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:49:14 PM
@Jim Carver true, but preventing it currently I guess is the best thing they can do. If they did just leave it, im sure more explosions could take place.

by Rexz at 3/26/2011 7:48:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:48:35 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:48:35 PM
Hmmmm.

by Janis at 3/26/2011 7:48:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:48:34 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:48:34 PM
Good to know, Matsuko. I guess that's why they were quoting it as evidence of corrosion.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:48:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:48:28 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:48:28 PM
true future,,, I wish they had Dr over there helping truthfully .. he's an expert

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:48:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:48:17 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:48:17 PM
I'd like to thank everyone here and on Reuters answering our questions, it's been very helpful.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:48:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:48:07 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:48:07 PM
@Rexz If there was a meltdown, you wouldn't want water around. It would build up steam and cause an explosion.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:47:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:47:43 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:47:43 PM
MATSUOKO.. this is my opinion only .. this accident is unprecedented in the nuclear industry.. and it goes beyond the norm for accident levels,, therefore I believe that we need to just go full bore .. and get the plan to protect the people first.. even if it means every one evacuated.. in 30 miles.. that's what they did at chernobyl and maybe why they piced it

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:47:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:47:41 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:47:41 PM
@Dean when you get old, you're often granstanding . you can also granstanding because you have tried to told the truth about misconception ?

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:47:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:47:24 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:47:24 PM
@radioguy : molybdaneuom and cobalt together with chrome make steel. co-cr-mo steel. stainless steel.

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:46:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:46:48 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:46:48 PM
@Dean So if the water levels are lowered to exposure, how does the cladding ignite? Would we have to assume that 50% damage means all of them are 50% melted?

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:46:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:46:27 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:46:27 PM
@Jojo, I guess its because they still need to contain the reactors, they are still producing a lot of heat, and if the water goes, there will be a meltdown... you can't just cover it over.

by Rexz at 3/26/2011 7:46:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:46:03 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:46:03 PM
I think Dr Tanaka has some good ideas.. but he was grandstanding on CNN

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:45:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:45:46 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:45:46 PM
@Dean : level 7 is more than 70 TBq radiation leak. i am not able to estimate it, but it does not seem impossible in fukushima.

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:45:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:45:36 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:45:36 PM
oooops than Mr kaku

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:45:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:45:11 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:45:11 PM
@Elaine is your screen different from yesterday - Comments in moderation added

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 7:45:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:45:09 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:45:09 PM
the cladding is the primary first containment for fuel

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:44:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:44:53 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:44:53 PM
I would trust more Mr tanaka thzn m

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:44:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:44:49 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:44:49 PM
@Rexz Why aren't they pouring massive amounts of boric acid on it? Water from fire trucks doesn't seem to be cutting it.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:44:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:44:44 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:44:44 PM
snice the cladding is the first line of defence from accidents on fuel

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:44:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:44:38 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:44:38 PM
in my experience with the reactors and terminology I use.. a breach can mean the cladding ..

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:44:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:44:27 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:44:27 PM
@JoJo I'm still not sure anyone can suggest a mechanism by which a cluster of 4 reactors with their fused fuel pools can be entombed.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:44:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:44:17 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:44:17 PM
yeh

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:44:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:44:08 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:44:08 PM
@Dean A translation from Japanese could be leak

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 7:43:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:43:55 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:43:55 PM
bigthink.com

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 7:43:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:43:49 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:43:49 PM
Dr Kaku blog

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 7:43:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:43:41 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:43:41 PM
wow jojo.. I don't really know.. could be going on for a year maybe.. this is huge.. and not a simple task

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:43:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:43:40 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:43:40 PM
Everything I have read about a breach leads back to that NYT article...

by Jeff at 3/26/2011 7:43:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:43:37 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:43:37 PM
They can't entomb them just yet because they are not cool enough

by Rexz at 3/26/2011 7:43:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:43:37 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:43:37 PM
@Matsuoko good post. So the Co60 is forensically diagnostic of material that HAD to have come from an inner part of the reactor directly bombarded with fission neutrons. That's the kind of science we need to make correct deductions as to what is really going on. Thank you.

by Sky at 3/26/2011 7:43:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:43:31 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:43:31 PM
I find more credible denials of a breach than I'd like to see them being forced to make.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:43:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:43:13 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:43:13 PM
NHK there certainly are differnces in what a breach means..

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:43:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:43:10 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:43:10 PM

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@Dean How long before they entomb these reactors like Chernobyl?

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:42:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:42:58 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:42:58 PM
I'm sure its not as easy as throwing in concrete and boric acid...

by Rexz at 3/26/2011 7:42:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:42:53 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:42:53 PM
This should be all over the place.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:42:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:42:46 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:42:46 PM
I haven't found any credible reports on a breach. Leaks maybe from pipes but core breach no

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 7:42:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:42:38 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:42:38 PM
Yes, comparing a disaster at a single reactor site with this and calling it equivalent is lunacy.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:42:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:42:36 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:42:36 PM
I would like to see Dr kaku.. put out his plans on paper for permanent consideration..

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:42:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:42:26 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:42:26 PM
yep janis..

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:42:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:42:00 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:42:00 PM
I thnk that's current.. but I haven't seen them for awhile

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:41:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:41:45 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:41:45 PM
I love Dr. Kaku and think he seems trustworthy and honest. I heard him say a few days ago that "the Japanese Air Force should be hitting this thing with everything but the kitchen sink." He went on to say that he meant with "lead, concrete, boric acid"...I'm not too sure that that is an option but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about. Anyone else hear him say that?

by Janis at 3/26/2011 7:41:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:41:31 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:41:31 PM
you notice that the Dr.. well trained.. expert in his field had nothing else to say for remediation than pour water all over

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:41:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:41:18 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:41:18 PM
@Dean @Dean ok. but what about what PM said? is that current.

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 7:41:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:41:05 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:41:05 PM
@Marie Rich I read they found Cobalt, Tellurium (a decay product?) and Molybdenum.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:41:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:41:02 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:41:02 PM
another thing.. the DR was saying HIS opinion on how to interpret the prime minister on his wording of the event...

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:40:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:40:51 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:40:51 PM
found a couple things www.pbs.org

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 7:40:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:40:23 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:40:23 PM
That link is from yesterday I believe - he says at the end "two weeks to the day from the tsunami"

by Alin at 3/26/2011 7:40:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:40:20 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:40:20 PM
in my opinion meretisa.. the video is similar to one he did on CNN.. he says.. there are 4 reactors which in and of itself should be higher than a single one.. I agree.. I've always agreed.. level 7 becauseof that.. and .. if yu look at the difference between 6 and 7.. it just means more rigor in the planning for long term.. they have to do that.. ...

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:40:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:40:17 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:40:17 PM
or maybe steel pipes from the inner cooling.

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:40:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:40:03 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:40:03 PM
@radioguy I have absolutely no idea, my guess is they must not be in good conditions atm

by Rucco at 3/26/2011 7:39:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:39:24 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:39:24 PM
Live on nhk link posted few min ago by Sinthia www3.nhk.or.jp

by elainekirk at 3/26/2011 7:39:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:39:04 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:39:04 PM
@marie rich : you can look it up in wikipedia Co59 is natural material and used for steel. Co60 (radioactive) only exists when you fire continuous neutron beams on Co59. so where is Co60, there must have benn heavy radiation in a steel vessel. Co60 is not a part of the decay of uran or plutonium. also, only corrosion (from salt) would not produce Co60. it is very likely that co60 comes from reactor vessel (or maybe spent fuel pool coating).

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:39:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:39:03 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:39:03 PM
@Meretisa I don't know! Somebody try to see what's going on. My computer is acting up.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:38:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:38:57 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:38:57 PM
Also, this Dept of Energy slideshow seems ridiculously low in terms of reported radiation. The slideshow here www.slideshare.net shows radiation < 1.19 mRems (10 uSv/Hour), but we have seen from www.mext.go.jp levels of 100 uSv/ hour, and many over 60.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:38:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:38:48 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:38:48 PM
@Dean is it current or valid?

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 7:38:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:38:37 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:38:37 PM
watching it.. I think that phd does science shows on channels..

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:38:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:38:18 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:38:18 PM
@Paul (UK) [out topic] I'm french . but since the 11 I feel japanese, i'm with japan's people, of course because the nuclear disaster, but we must not forget that 300 000 peoples have lost everything. One thing which hurt me the most least few days was a reuter article : It was talking about mR yamazaki, who lost his car in Tsunami, and was looking for it. until this, you're going to say it's bad compassion . But that man explain that his licence worker, his insurance, his social card WAS in the car and WITHOUT them, he could'not GO to the hospital... That have really strike me down. What, nothing have been done, state, insurances, hospitals still ask for papers for people who have lost EVERYTHING???? I hope it is not true, but when all of this will be better, I'm sure we will found that it was the truth . you can also look at Kyodo for "non radioactive certificate"

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:38:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:38:16 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:38:16 PM
@rucco Any guess on the odds that ANY of those systems are still functional?

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:37:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:37:55 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:37:55 PM
@Patrick Kelly Thanks

by marie rich at 3/26/2011 7:36:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:36:47 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:36:47 PM
OK, sorry if I keep bringing this up. If they can't transport the spent fuel rods via helicopter, how about towing them by ship? I don't know the catastrophe of exposure to the ocean, or if you could fill a steel container with water and then put them in, but if you kept the fuel rods under the water, you could probably get by boat from one nuke plant to the other in an hour or two ,and then unload them there.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:36:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:36:43 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:36:43 PM
is it old or what?

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 7:36:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:36:09 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:36:09 PM
yes dean

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 7:36:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:36:06 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:36:06 PM
analysis of water in puddle www.nisa.meti.go.jp

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 7:36:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:36:02 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:36:02 PM
This, released without any more comment, was very odd. Next to last in a list of bullet points from JAIF yesterday evening: " Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station has been in serious condition since
some units lost cooling function. TEPCO is trying to recover components for
cooling that should be driven by external AC power. However, working
condition in high radiation area is so bad and there is no prospect of
accomplishing the work for this recovery. (05:15, March 26) "

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:35:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:35:37 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:35:37 PM
is that the video

by Dean at 3/26/2011 7:35:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:35:35 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:35:35 PM
@Rucco OK thanks everyone. It's so tempting given that the other nuke plant with functioning cooling systems is just 7 miles to the south.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:34:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:34:12 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:34:12 PM
@Matsuoko Where did you hear that? I believe tracking the isotopes released will give a big big indicaton of what's really happening. Do you have a link? or can you just remember?

by marie rich at 3/26/2011 7:34:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:34:07 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:34:07 PM
by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:33:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:33:29 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:33:29 PM
@matsuoko not necessarily (however I think there has been a breach) this is caused by corrosion of the interior walls from the salt, it could still be a pipe. It is quite obvious that the reactor cores are corroding, and in turn putting some "very very high" radioactive heavy metals (the worst) into the water stream.

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 7:33:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:33:24 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:33:24 PM
@Jojo It's my understanding that there's a gate that connects the SFP and the reactor itself. When this gate opens, the fuel is transported through a water canal that connects both.

by Rucco at 3/26/2011 7:33:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:33:20 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:33:20 PM
IAEA says Japan reports fresh water cooling 1, 2 & 3 pressure vehicles now. www.iaea.org

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:33:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:33:12 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:33:12 PM
@Jim Carver- is WHAT real?

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 7:32:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:32:55 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:32:55 PM
Those poor workers receiving that amount of radiation...

by Rexz at 3/26/2011 7:32:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:32:38 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:32:38 PM
Is this real?

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:32:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:32:32 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:32:32 PM
@Jojo : they have a crane inside. it is the green thing you can see in #4 pictures.

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:32:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:32:10 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:32:10 PM
@Future isnow I agree removal is probably not an option, much as I wish it were.

by es at 3/26/2011 7:31:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:31:55 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:31:55 PM
Workers exposed to massive radiation.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:31:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:31:47 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:31:47 PM

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they found Co60 in the "puddles". this is nearly a proof for a core breach.

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:31:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:31:27 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:31:27 PM
@Future Isnow Just curious, how do they get the rods from the reactor to the cooling pool?

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:31:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:31:14 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:31:14 PM
The current line of defense seems to be that they think there's no breach, but it's a fitting or cooling pipe that's cracked.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:31:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:31:05 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:31:05 PM
@radioguy which means that it is breached... if it is at levels highter than inside of working reactor... :(

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 7:29:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:29:28 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:29:28 PM
We have no idea of the state of the insides of those things other than damaged, but I doubt it's anything near normal for a working reactor..

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:29:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:29:25 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:29:25 PM
@Future Isnow OK thanks.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:29:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:29:06 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:29:06 PM
@Matsuko... Oh heavens no. They'd never admit that till it's obvious. They've found pools of water about at 10,000 times normal levels "for the inside of a working reactor"

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:28:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:28:45 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:28:45 PM
@radioguy Link please on your info on the core breach

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 7:28:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:28:38 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:28:38 PM
If someone can't get an article/whatever translated from French or Spanish I'd be happy to provide a (quick) translation.

by Rucco at 3/26/2011 7:28:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:28:36 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:28:36 PM
@Matsuoko That's what they had on the screen. Couldn't get the sound.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:28:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:28:35 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:28:35 PM
@Jojo I suppose it is because it is very difficult to reach them . If you look at the 4 places, except n°2, all is destroyed. N°1 is quite ok, but n°4, who have new fuels rods and old one is a bit in a mess, and N°3 is in a total mess. So this rods are longs, heavy, and highly radioactiv : when you look the roof, there is no way a chopper could bring them out. Also, these rods need to be cooled down, the best is 25 ° and to avoid exposure to air... so, taking them out is unfortunately not an option, amha

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:28:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:28:31 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:28:31 PM
@es That's the thing, these pools that hold the cooling rods are not functioning, but they ARE functioning at other nuke plants. There is the Fukushima II just 7 miles to the south. They don't have room in ALL their functional cooling pools for some of the Fukushima I fuel rods?

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:28:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:28:26 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:28:26 PM
It just got orders of magnitude harder working to solve the problem when they discovered all the highly radioactive leakage.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:27:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:27:40 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:27:40 PM
@radioguy : please report ! do they really admit a core breach ?

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:27:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:27:36 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:27:36 PM
Just a curiosity... are there many people coming on here who are currently in Tokyo / Japan? (OK, not right now maybe - 4:24 a.m. there!). Would be very interesting to hear 'the word on the street' (or is this site even getting into Japan?).

by Paul (UK) at 3/26/2011 7:27:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:27:13 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:27:13 PM
I know the reactors are an issue, I was just thinking away of moving the spent fuel rods to cooling pools that worked as opposed to trying to fix the pools that are there.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:26:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:26:37 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:26:37 PM
@jojo No idea. I have difficulty imagining them intact and in place following those explosions.

by es at 3/26/2011 7:26:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:26:28 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:26:28 PM
Fuel in 1, 2 &3

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:25:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:25:45 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:25:45 PM
@es Exactly.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:25:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:25:20 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:25:20 PM
@Andy "Reactor core breached" , risk of a full catastrophe. I couldn't get the sound. I m gonna have to reboot. What else did he say?

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:25:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:25:14 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:25:14 PM
@radioguy link added

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 7:24:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:24:57 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:24:57 PM
@es Are all the fuel rods in the reactor? I thought a big problem was in the cooling pools that were containing the spent fuel rods.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:24:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:24:46 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:24:46 PM
@Future Isnow : well, then just send the waste to France ... they love that sort of stuff.

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:24:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:24:36 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:24:36 PM
@you heu, no, thanks, it's an old one, 2 days ago ;-) sorry sin..

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:24:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:24:11 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:24:11 PM
@jojo Perhaps if the rods were still intact and not lying in a molten pool at the bottom of the reactors.

by es at 3/26/2011 7:24:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:24:03 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:24:03 PM
@Future Isnow So why don't they start slowly moving spent fuel rods from their location to locations further away, and then start moving fuel rods from Fukushima?

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:24:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:24:03 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:24:03 PM
@Sinthia Domina thanks

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:23:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:23:24 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:23:24 PM
@andyjsha According to what I have google, they don't have enough room to store fukushima waste. What is fun is that they wanted to build an ITER there (we got the contract in France :( and the other thing is that Thousands of people have fight against mox in that site, or anyother nuclear thing, because it is on a big fault line

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:22:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:22:58 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:22:58 PM
Live conference on NHK now www3.nhk.or.jp

by Sinthia Domina at 3/26/2011 7:22:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:22:57 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:22:57 PM
www.yomiuri.co.jp Tokyo Electric Power Co. knew of the possibility of highly concentrated radioactive leakage at its Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant's No. 3 reactor, but it failed to alert workers before three of them were exposed to radiation Thursday, it was learned Saturday.

by elainekirk at 3/26/2011 7:22:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:22:27 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:22:27 PM
@George Here's a useful link. Crowd-sourced Geiger counter readings all over Japan. japan.fa iledrobot.com

by radioguy edited by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 7:22:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:22:24 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:22:24 PM
@andyjsha : that's why Daiichi and Daini have their own ports. i have no idea how they didi it, but they shipped the fuel there by the port, not by road.

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:22:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:22:24 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:22:24 PM
@Jim Carver I do too. He is such a refreshing change from the "experts" we generally see explaining what is occurring.

by Andy at 3/26/2011 7:22:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:22:23 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:22:23 PM
en.wikipedia.org

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:20:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:20:32 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:20:32 PM
@Andy I love that guy.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:20:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:20:18 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:20:18 PM
Rokkasho reprocessing plant in Aomori Prefecture receives shipments via the port of Mutsu Ogawara, which hasn't sustained too much damage in tsunami, but I wonder where they would ship material from in fukushima - airlifting cannisters onto ships etc? Interesting that Rokkasho is only a few miles from the huge American air base at Misawa.

by andyjsha at 3/26/2011 7:20:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:20:02 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:20:02 PM
@radioguy Nice someone mention the drones again. yes, I wonder why we have no news. according to the navy radiations maps, they have use it. but what about pictures ? (grrr, my conspirationist dark side again, lol)

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:19:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:19:49 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:19:49 PM
Michio Kaku, PhD on what is happening: www.youtube.com

by Andy at 3/26/2011 7:19:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:19:34 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:19:34 PM
article in french press about what can / can't be believed from tepco (published on liberation science blog). It might be possible to get it in english with a right click on the page with firefox; or try goolgle translation??? sciences.blogs.liberation.fr

by nestor at 3/26/2011 7:19:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:19:18 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:19:18 PM
well...that's one of its uses.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:19:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:19:13 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:19:13 PM
by the way, they have a spent fuel base in the north, Rokkasho. maybe 400 km away.

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:19:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:19:12 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:19:12 PM
The spent fuel rods are just sitting there in a big pool. How do they get from the reactor to that pool? Just do that same thing and attach heavy long cables to it, and fly to the other nuclear plant. The other nuclear plant is just 7 miles away. You fly it to the other plant and drop the fuel rods into the other pool that has WORKING pumps.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:19:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:19:08 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:19:08 PM
The advanced atomic detection plane we sent to them.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:18:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:18:59 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:18:59 PM
@radioguy What is the GH?

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:18:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:18:29 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:18:29 PM
Too complicated... too many loads... to much population...

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:17:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:17:44 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:17:44 PM

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@Elaine did you get a different screen when you logged in today?

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 7:17:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:17:34 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:17:34 PM
Murphy makes that impossible, I'm afraid.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:17:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:17:24 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:17:24 PM
I'm actually quite surprised we've heard nothing about the GlobalHawk since that first mention. You'd think they'd at least put out some cover chatter to make it seem like they're not hiding it.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:16:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:16:34 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:16:34 PM
in chernobyl they also buit a concrete base by digging holes in the ground.

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:16:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:16:24 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:16:24 PM
@radioguy True. But I have seen military helicopters carry multiple ton items, you could use x number of cables with 10 helicopters to move everything down south. Maybe just the spent fuel rods??

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:16:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:16:11 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:16:11 PM
And what about the MOX that is supposed to be "too hot to handle". If terrorist can't do it? Sorry

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:14:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:14:53 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:14:53 PM
@JoJo Add to the problem, the weight of the cable you'd need to hang it far below so the radiation doesn't take out pilots or controls.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 7:14:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:14:46 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:14:46 PM
Chernobyl leaking Fire (neutron beam) was over in 20 days.. (then they spent almost a year to build the sarcophagus)

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:14:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:14:22 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:14:22 PM
@Jojo, re earthquake alerts by animal behavior: The evidence is purely anecdotal to date. I thought about this, when Haiti was struck last year. Would not it be great, if there was a way to be alerted of an impending quake by a cheap method like a pet in the household? A few seconds may save many lives. I can only imagine for this to work with animals that are more sensitive to the slight vibrations of p-waves, the first ones to arrive, than we are. Read more here: brainmindinst.blogspot.com/2010/01/neuroanatomy-of-earthquake.html

by Peter Melzer at 3/26/2011 7:14:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:14:18 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:14:18 PM
@Future Isnow Can they put their tanker in specially designed (lead-lined) tanker trucks? They must have most roads open by now because I see them making road measurements of radioactivity.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:12:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:12:56 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:12:56 PM
@Max : i bet they have done that already. but they will never hand out the data.

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:12:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:12:19 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:12:19 PM
Look at chenobyl, the core is still sitting right where they left it, and they estimate it will be there for thousands of years. If you come even close to it, you will be dead in seconds

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 7:12:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:12:09 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:12:09 PM
@Matsuoko I agree from the start, there's too much. It has to stay there.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:12:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:12:08 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:12:08 PM
@Matsuoko I agree on that, it like moving the highly radioactiv water from the underground to a safe place. And that is Tepco main concern for now, because everything in their plans is stopped for now, because of that water

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:11:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:11:51 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:11:51 PM
@Patrick Kelley OK, thanks. I didn't know what the feasibility and quantities were, but thought it might fly given that the containment units /pumps/coolingpools, etc. just a few miles to the south at the other nuclear plant are completely fine.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:11:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:11:18 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:11:18 PM
@peter melzer: I had the same idea immediately after the problems rose: Why not fly some remote controlled toy-helicopters over the plant.

They cost nearly nothing. If they fail due to radiation: nearly no damage. They can carry cameras and parhaps at least some sensors and are remotely controllable from at least some relatively safe distance from the radiation.

No real need for a US global hawk as we heard days ago. Also only once with no real public results.

Sometimes low tech can also help - if taken into consideration or at least be tested!

by Max at 3/26/2011 7:11:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:11:06 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:11:06 PM
@Marie No it is google...

by Olivier at 3/26/2011 7:11:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:11:04 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:11:04 PM
people, better forget about moving the fuel. it is simply impossible.

by Matsuoko at 3/26/2011 7:10:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:10:21 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:10:21 PM
@JoJo somewhat, but they would have to be sealed against radiation and we are talking about probably 200trips.... one mistake and this disater gets so, so much worse. The other problem is the fuel is inaccessible without opening the containment and letting the radiation seep out.

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 7:10:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:10:09 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:10:09 PM
@All i'm going to go read some more about Scribble and see if I can implement the turn off comments option.. bbl

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 7:10:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:10:02 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:10:02 PM
Marie: The market trades in the future... I'm just sayin'

by Karen Warren at 3/26/2011 7:09:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:09:52 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:09:52 PM
Thanks, Sin

by marie rich at 3/26/2011 7:09:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:09:35 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:09:35 PM
for japan nuclear waste disposal, look her: en.wikipedia.org then here en.wikipedia.org it would show you what is possible. Rokkasho is in the north east, so it mean to goes through the desolated tsunami zone

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:09:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:09:25 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:09:25 PM
Just read a Japanese MP openly quote a resident calling the government heartless "kokoro ga nai" over the plight of the fukushima residents it has effectively abandoned. It's really quite unusual for a member of the Diet to be so forthright. blog.mawatari.info

by andyjsha at 3/26/2011 7:09:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:09:21 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:09:21 PM
@Karen Warren Ah, but they're too big to fail...LOL

by marie rich at 3/26/2011 7:09:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:09:12 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:09:12 PM
@ Marie Rich If you use Firefox...which I recommend, you right click on the page, go to page info, then select translate into English.

by Sinthia Domina at 3/26/2011 7:08:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:08:59 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:08:59 PM
@Patrick Kelley I'm sure there must be military (US and or Japan) helicopters that have the equipment to handle heavy loads like that.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:08:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:08:17 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:08:17 PM
For anyone wanting to watch the financial demise of TEPCO, here are the links to the stock charts for you to bookmark. finance.yahoo.com finance.yahoo.com And, on the Japan exchange: www.bloomberg.com

by Karen Warren at 3/26/2011 7:07:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:07:46 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:07:46 PM
@JoJo we are talking about over 1700 tons of fuel. A helicopter may take maybe 10tons at a time (I think less) and we would have to build something to hold the fuel for the heli's to haul it.

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 7:07:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:07:34 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:07:34 PM
@Patrick Kelley I'm thinking the best and cheapest material would be ground native rock with a nice cap of bentonite clay. Then you could build Japanese Garden on top. It would be pretty except for those unsightly vent stacks coming out of the ground.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 7:07:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:07:20 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:07:20 PM
@es It's irradiated but the containment units are intact. They have working cooling pumps and all the reactors are offline. Can't they just add the Dai-ichi nuclear material down to Daini for the time being?

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:07:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:07:11 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:07:11 PM
120 Watchers - for those who asked earlier

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 7:06:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:06:36 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:06:36 PM
@Olivier Is there a way to translate the leMonde into English?

by marie rich at 3/26/2011 7:06:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:06:26 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:06:26 PM
@jojo Presumably the nearby Daini plant is similarly irradiated by now.

by es at 3/26/2011 7:05:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:05:48 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:05:48 PM
@Jojo, I don't know where the article is, but the closest facility to decontaminate the water is very far away, the infrastructure is near completely destroyed (roads, bridges, etc) and at the moment better to have all the radiation in one spot rather then possibly irradiating other areas.

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 7:05:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:05:48 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:05:48 PM
thanks for everything today - i am away out for the first time in 2 years. catch up with all tomorrow.

by fiona at 3/26/2011 7:05:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:05:46 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:05:46 PM
Or take the nuke material on a cable attached to a helicopter, it would presumably get to the intact nuke plant to the south in minutes. Sorry if this seems ridiculous, I really don't know the masses or feasibility. Just throwing it out there.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:04:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:04:40 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:04:40 PM
@Patrick Kelley But haven't the areas already been massively irradiated?

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:03:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:03:29 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:03:29 PM
Max@thanks for your report - grim reading, every morning i wake and expect that something really major has happened overnight, fingers crossed not tonight

by fiona at 3/26/2011 7:03:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:03:22 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:03:22 PM
@George Gibb I agree on that too !!! I believe in internet self-control (netiquette) but for All : please, stay in subject : I can't talk to you from my gran mother who have seen a big flash in the sky, this will not help (and she never seen that, lol)

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 7:02:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:02:18 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:02:18 PM
Collective relocation of Fukushima residents NHK www3.nhk.or.jp

by Sinthia Domina at 3/26/2011 7:01:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:01:57 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:01:57 PM
@George Gibb true. Not intended as a knock against the moderation, just a general statement. @Meretisa no problem! I just don't want this to turn in to the other sites I've seen that are almost totally consumed with that stuff.

by jay77 at 3/26/2011 7:01:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:01:51 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:01:51 PM
Moving this material is near impossible without affecting the route you take, until the fuel is cooled (years)

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 7:01:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:01:19 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:01:19 PM
news.nationalgeographic.com "Researchers around the world continue to pursue the idea, however. In September 2003 a medical doctor in Japan made headlines with a study that indicated erratic behavior in dogs, such as excessive barking or biting, could be used to forecast quakes. "

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 7:01:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:01:16 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:01:16 PM
If we could all stay on the subject it would be helpful (and make things much easier to find!

by hudebnik at 3/26/2011 7:00:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:00:45 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:00:45 PM

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@jay77- sorry. just trying to fill the void for myself. This has been a very upsetting thing for me and my shaman has been helpful spiritually.

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 7:00:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 7:00:30 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:00:30 PM
What I hope we will end up seeing is some kind of gravel/sand that can settle and move independently and is in high volumes worldwide. Coupled with some kind of flexible frame made of something more resource intensive. and a thin shell incasing all

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:59:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:59:56 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:59:56 PM
@jay77 I hear ya Jay - lack of news is one thing and i feel its important to let people voice there opinion for transparency

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 6:59:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:59:44 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:59:44 PM
@you Or even just sealing them up temporarily in a truck and just hauling it down there, with drivers taking turns every few minutes. These workers are already getting really close to the nuke material...

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 6:59:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:59:20 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:59:20 PM
@jay77 I agree, and I will restrain myself. We must not waste the opportunity that Blog give us

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 6:59:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:59:14 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:59:14 PM
About a week ago there was a report; Japan was pressed against the attaching plate. As a result of the massive quakes this pressure was released. It is obvious that the pressure at the other side of this plate (US/CAN west cost ) is decreased. In other words: better be prepared.

by Max at 3/26/2011 6:59:08 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:59:08 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:59:08 PM
This might sound completely ridiculous because I don't know the quantities involved, but can we get a drone plane to carry this nuclear material down south to the other nuclear facility where they add it to the safe reactors there? I mean, they already have a bunch of intact containment units a few miles to the south.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 6:58:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:58:25 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:58:25 PM
@Max I've been doing the same type thing. I think unit 1 is getting ready to have an event- very likely to be some kind of breach due to pressure

by marie rich at 3/26/2011 6:57:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:57:33 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:57:33 PM
@Sin, I remember that guy. I think looking at animal migrations is important. Once you enter in into conspiracy zone you will find many people with this or that belief and most have pretty good reasons. I don't always know what to believe, so I just pay attention. If I start hearing of more and more people predicting this or that, it starts to seem a little more plausible. Meretisa's shaman and the New Madrid Fault line for example is another source of confirmation for what may be brewing there, etc.

by tippytoe at 3/26/2011 6:57:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:57:29 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:57:29 PM
I'm concerned this liveblog may be devolving. Can we self-moderate to keep paranormal/supernatural speculation to a minimum, and focus on Japan news?

by jay77 at 3/26/2011 6:57:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:57:22 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:57:22 PM
@Patrick Kelley I like it when people think outside the box - something tells me this is going to apply to this event.

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 6:56:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:56:03 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:56:03 PM
@marie rich With a such big nuclear plant, it would ask a very large amount of titanium, I try to do the math , but it seem for now incompatible with our worldwilde titanium ressources

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 6:55:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:55:47 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:55:47 PM
@Sinthia and Jojo thanks

by Janis at 3/26/2011 6:55:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:55:43 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:55:43 PM
@Patrick Kelly Point taken.

by marie rich at 3/26/2011 6:55:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:55:06 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:55:06 PM
I just briefly compared the METI reports from the ones a day ago:

Unit 1: Pressure still rising. Well over the limit for days now, so let's test how much it can take...

Unit 2: SFP temperature went from 28 up to 57 wthin a day. Normally not possile with or without cooling. There must be something wrong in the readings - or in the cooling/water levels.

Units 5 & 6: spent fuel pool rising- in No. 6 over 10C with functioning cooling???
The again switched power from temporary to permanent and got 10 degrees increase within a day. I wonder...

Not to mention dropping levels of reactor water level of around 400mm. A up and down I of levels wonder for some time... Maintaining the water level is not such a difficult task if everything is ok...

Common spent fuel pool: Temperature is fortunately back to 46C and seems to be decreasing.

by Max at 3/26/2011 6:54:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:54:59 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:54:59 PM
Its just speculation on Coast to Coast here is their site. www.coasttocoastam.com Its not empirical scientific data just some guy's theory.

by Sinthia Domina at 3/26/2011 6:54:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:54:56 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:54:56 PM
@ marie - I think that we have to also put into perspective the materials we are talking about. This plant is huge, I don't know if we even have that much titanium in the world.

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:54:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:54:34 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:54:34 PM
@Janis No, it's serious. There is nothing definitive but informally some pets (mostly dogs) are thought to act strange before an earthquake because they hear some ultrasonic waves being emitted from under the ground.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 6:54:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:54:24 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:54:24 PM
@george it's neat stuff, but made for repairs, more or less, it creates a great seal, allows the workers to repair the situation. And then poof you crack it and it shatters away.(obviously I'm not a chemist, I just grew up with one, so I appologize for any errors, I'm sure it's more complicated then that)

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:53:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:53:16 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:53:16 PM
MaryMary: TEPCO is a public company trading on two exchanges. It's a pink sheet listing in the US which means that it doesn't have far to fall. Pink sheet stocks are the wild, wild west. If a Bk was filed, the stock market will know it.

by Karen Warren at 3/26/2011 6:53:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:53:10 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:53:10 PM
@Sinthia are you joking? lol

by Janis at 3/26/2011 6:53:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:53:00 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:53:00 PM
@patrick Kelly Do you think that an initial entombment with concrete, with boronated water injected, and then an off-site manufactured Titanium shroud would work? Titanium is as strong as steel, but has the advantage of being flexible, extremely heat resistant, and resistant to chlorine and most acids. Be awfully expensive tho.

by marie rich at 3/26/2011 6:52:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:52:57 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:52:57 PM
@Sinthia, could you elaborate on that? I must have missed it. I have a daughter in LA, so I worry... thanks

by Janis at 3/26/2011 6:52:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:52:15 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:52:15 PM
@Dean Does the dry well hold pressure?

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 6:51:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:51:00 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:51:00 PM
There was the earthquake guy on there not long ago who said the the pets gone missing in San Diego had risen dramatically.

by Sinthia Domina at 3/26/2011 6:50:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:50:59 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:50:59 PM
@Peter Melzer It was decreasing until yesterday. Yesterday Yamagata was at 150/150, now its 7500/1200.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 6:50:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:50:49 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:50:49 PM
@Patrick Kelley All I know was that its the moisture/impurities that make it brittle

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 6:50:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:50:48 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:50:48 PM
For Tokyo, it's 220 Iodine, 12 Cs.

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 6:50:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:50:10 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:50:10 PM
@Jojo, I wondered about this, too. At least the readings for Ibaraki Prefecture south of Fukushima Have been gradually decreasing.

by Peter Melzer at 3/26/2011 6:49:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:49:46 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:49:46 PM
www.mext.go.jp Fallout readings for Ibaraki are 860 MBq/km2 of Iodine, 160 for Cs

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 6:49:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:49:45 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:49:45 PM
Someone could shoot it with a BB gun....

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:49:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:49:41 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:49:41 PM
@george hard yes, durable no.

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:49:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:49:27 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:49:27 PM
@tippytoe I have... he has spoken of it also for a while now. He says that certain things are "inevitable" but others we (humans) will have a choice on... he said that the Fukushima was based on choices AND "inevitable". I don't know. It is very upsetting, but he seems pretty calm about it... says it is all "a cycle" and "has happened before".

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 6:49:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:49:18 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:49:18 PM
@Sin, of course!!!

by tippytoe at 3/26/2011 6:49:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:49:00 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:49:00 PM
@Patrick Kelley ah but glass made in a true vacuum is as hard as diamonds

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 6:48:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:48:43 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:48:43 PM
any of you listen to Coast to Coast?

by Sinthia Domina at 3/26/2011 6:48:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:48:41 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:48:41 PM
[not to follow opinion] Here, in the basque country (south of france, north west of Spain, we had a project in Spain, for a big nuclear power plant. The first CEo came, he was shot a bullet in the head. they sent a second one, same story, a poor man dead. They sent a 3rd one, dead also . I DON'T agree whith that kind of action, ok, but the power plant was stopped .I just think that it is a pity that , when a full country don't want of something, a state say: you will have it anyway. We should remember Japan's people who have immolate themselves with fire, against the nuclear plant in the 70 years. Unfortunately, these deaths have done nothing. I really hope now that information could change the world, without any more death

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 6:47:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:47:40 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:47:40 PM
@dean Spaceglass?!?! my dad invented that, and is useless in this situation

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:47:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:47:33 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:47:33 PM
@Matsuoko You definitely couldn't just pour concrete over it, you're right, that would crack almost instantly. Reinforced concrete might do okay if designed correctly, but you'd have to build in sections offsite at a precasting plant and assemble with lots of workers onsite. Or maybe polymer concrete could be used en.wikipedia.org

by jay77 at 3/26/2011 6:47:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:47:16 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:47:16 PM
@Meretisa, so long as we're on this subject. Ask him if he has info on the New Madrid Fault line. Major Ed Dames, head of the military's remote viewing program says that's going to be the location of "the next big one". He allegedly also saw the Japan quake and ensuing melt down back in 2005 (or there abouts).

by tippytoe at 3/26/2011 6:47:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:47:11 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:47:11 PM
@Sinthia Domina Here it is again but the site is down www.osti.gov

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 6:45:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:45:35 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:45:35 PM
The latest release (in French) of the ISRN (Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety) www.irsn.fr "IRSN examines scenarios of a possible aggravation of the situation, including scenarios associated with rupture of the reactor vessel No. 3 or circuits connected to it."

by Olivier at 3/26/2011 6:45:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:45:32 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:45:32 PM
How can people say that Japan has been forthright on information when this link www.bousai.ne.jp to Japan's Nuclear Safety Technology Center has shown both Miyagi and Fukushima prefectures as "Under survey" since they put the page up?

by Jojo at 3/26/2011 6:45:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:45:23 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:45:23 PM
@tippytoe He felt the quake before it happened. He knew about Haiti and other stuff before it came out. He seems to have his own "realtime psychic link" of sorts.

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 6:44:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:44:35 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:44:35 PM
Sinthia the link to that doc can be found on the webpage fukushima.wikispaces.com I posted it there last night.

by Sky at 3/26/2011 6:44:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:44:22 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:44:22 PM

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@radioguy The effect is minimal however.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 3:46:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:46:57 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:46:57 AM
@radioguy The water doesn't have to boil to transfer heat.

by borrrden at 3/26/2011 3:46:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:46:53 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:46:53 AM
@Rucco Good point, because I don't know what George have chosen, but if it is the free account, it will stop after 1000 messages, as far as I have understand it..

by futureisnow at 3/26/2011 3:46:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:46:13 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:46:13 AM
@Dawn Barker The boiling point of water changes with dissolved solubles. Fresh water boils at 100 C at sea level. Sea water boils at 103.7 C at sea level. So the salt water is cutting ~4 degrees C off of the cooling effectiveness of the water.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 3:46:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:46:06 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:46:06 AM
Not to mention, this gets saved. Facebook gets washed away.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 3:45:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:45:48 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:45:48 AM
I know this has been posted before, but here is a page is most of the news sites and a ton of information links. fukushima.wikispaces.com

by Jeff at 3/26/2011 3:45:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:45:37 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:45:37 AM
@Bobby1 That site seem kinda bleek

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 3:45:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:45:35 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:45:35 AM
If the blog has a significant success, I'll be more than happy to contribute for the monthly charge(s)

by Rucco at 3/26/2011 3:44:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:44:51 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:44:51 AM
and yes borrrden- Deans should come in shifts

by stef at 3/26/2011 3:44:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:44:35 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:44:35 AM
Seriously though, I'm very concerned for a lot of reasons- but has per my facebook comments- my boyfriend is currently aiding Japan in all of this catastrophe. I had plans to see him in September for the first time in 10 months...and now I'm sure it is scrapped. Can anyone knowledgeable speculate on the outcome of the US Military bases and how likely they will be to even reside there. It's looking grim, and I feel like that its almost like we're losing our most valuable asset in the Pacific.

by stef at 3/26/2011 3:44:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:44:14 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:44:14 AM
@George Gibb, this format is great, don't let it go. If this

by Rucco at 3/26/2011 3:44:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:44:12 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:44:12 AM
Bye Dean!

by borrrden at 3/26/2011 3:43:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:43:50 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:43:50 AM
"All official agencies are conspicuously silent about the alpha-emitters Plutonium and Uranium. We remain deeply concerned about this lack of information." www.llrc.org

by Bobby1 at 3/26/2011 3:43:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:43:45 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:43:45 AM
I also want to thank Dean. For more than a week, his voice has been about the only one who has brought clarity to this situation.

by Andy at 3/26/2011 3:43:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:43:42 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:43:42 AM
@Indreba This format is more user friendly.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 3:43:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:43:31 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:43:31 AM
I need to run errands for awhile.. cya all later...

by Dean at 3/26/2011 3:43:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:43:30 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:43:30 AM
Still learning/reading about Scribble Live manual is a little sketchy and thin in places

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 3:43:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:43:23 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:43:23 AM
your all welcome...

by Dean at 3/26/2011 3:43:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:43:06 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:43:06 AM
Bill Nye was interviewed the other day, watching him look so concerned made me think "where did the science guy go?" I think anyone with a scientific background is getting more concerned by the day.

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 3:43:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:43:05 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:43:05 AM
#Dean: I value too your opinions, before and now.

by futureisnow at 3/26/2011 3:42:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:42:49 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:42:49 AM
ty Dean for your input and ALL your posts/links

by Hermine at 3/26/2011 3:42:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:42:29 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:42:29 AM
A lot of people from Reuters are also on here and we have our Facebook photos/IDs that are instantly recognisable there, it's very homely and we can watch videos on the page, share and preview links and have conversations and chats.. Plus it's a permanent group whereas I don't know what will happen with this scribble page as scribble usually does a free month's trial and then it's a monthly charge..? LOADS of people are on the Facebook group, feel free to join.. the more the merrier :0)

by Indreba at 3/26/2011 3:42:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:42:15 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:42:15 AM
@Peter Melzer Tap water is being monitored, look here atmc.jp (Also check out the other sections on radioactivity readings, rainfall etc)

by kb at 3/26/2011 3:41:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:41:57 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:41:57 AM
Future, I think it's understandable that we are all somewhat paranoid and wonder who to trust at the moment.

by Janis at 3/26/2011 3:41:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:41:57 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:41:57 AM
@Dean I value your opinion and your posts - keep em coming

by fiona at 3/26/2011 3:41:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:41:29 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:41:29 AM
@futureisnow no worries, I think everyone's critical eye is open WIDE right now, seeing subtle changes make us go hmmmm... the important thing is we take the input we get back on what we are thinking like you did and be able to quell our suspicions.

by Canadian at 3/26/2011 3:41:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:41:15 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:41:15 AM
sorry to have been off topic, it was just my opinion since one hour

by futureisnow at 3/26/2011 3:40:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:40:48 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:40:48 AM
some times I get to talking too much too.. and make too many posts... it's better maybe to answer quesitons is all

by Dean at 3/26/2011 3:39:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:39:56 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:39:56 AM
@stef I wouldn't mind Dean clones if they were equally smart...they could come in shifts xD.

by borrrden at 3/26/2011 3:39:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:39:53 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:39:53 AM
@Dawn Barker The boiling point of water should remain at 100C at STP (Standard Temperature and Pressure). Boiling point goes up with an increase in pressure.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 3:39:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:39:31 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:39:31 AM
ha ha stef...

by Dean at 3/26/2011 3:39:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:39:26 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:39:26 AM
Thanks, Peter, so you have a countertop unit? Thinking of sending one to my daughter in Los Angeles..

by Janis at 3/26/2011 3:39:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:39:23 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:39:23 AM
ty George

by Hermine at 3/26/2011 3:39:11 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:39:11 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:39:11 AM
@George Gibb : my ip is a floating ip

by futureisnow at 3/26/2011 3:38:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:38:58 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:38:58 AM
@George Gibb Really? So you can only use the same name from 1 IP address?

by borrrden at 3/26/2011 3:38:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:38:57 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:38:57 AM
Whoa...divas. Password protected.... Im just glad there is still a way to keep up with what is going on. We all know the mainstream media isn't. In fact, conspiracy: Gov kidnapped Dean for his knowledgeable brain! Or...Radiation makes Dean mutate and he has clones everywhere!

by stef at 3/26/2011 3:38:53 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:38:53 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:38:53 AM
@Janis, I believe they do. But they fill quickly. Ours recommends a change every six months. If I was living in Tokyo, I'd change mine every two. Distilled water should certainly be clean, but you would not want to drink that pure.

by Peter Melzer at 3/26/2011 3:38:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:38:42 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:38:42 AM
Just so everyone knows - your chat name is tied to your IP address so auto approve works only with the initial sign-in chat name

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 3:38:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:38:17 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:38:17 AM
are we really devolving to conspiracy theories about dean now?

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 3:38:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:38:04 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:38:04 AM
@futureisnow I know I'm not the same radioguy I was at the beginning of this. I'm getting more cynical by the day as I watch the tap dancing..

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 3:37:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:37:48 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:37:48 AM
fuku-tabi.jp

by kgriff at 3/26/2011 3:37:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:37:45 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:37:45 AM
may be as I said it was paranoia, and Canadian is right. it was just an opinion, so sorry if I was wrong .

by futureisnow at 3/26/2011 3:37:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:37:33 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:37:33 AM
I thought the same thing before. How do we know if Dean is the same Dean each time if there is no password required :(. I was hoping he could get some kind of protected account like the Reuters mods had.....

by borrrden at 3/26/2011 3:37:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:37:18 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:37:18 AM
I want to share accurate information to every one and if I say or post anything that seems wrong please tell me.. .in reality I am very concerned...

by Dean at 3/26/2011 3:37:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:37:10 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:37:10 AM
Nice just found this. Glad someone picked up where reuters left off.

by Jeff at 3/26/2011 3:36:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 3:36:48 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:36:48 AM

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@Meretisa, that is beyond me, too. How did they protect the operators, if nobody was allowed to live near there?

by Peter Melzer at 3/26/2011 6:28:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:28:17 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:28:17 PM
@Future: I fear that military grade plutonium might be too dangerous to be used in MOX fuel; maybe in breeder reactor, if they once succeed to have one running ?

by Jo Lindien at 3/26/2011 6:28:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:28:13 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:28:13 PM
the people of japan will never look on nuclear the same again

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:28:04 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:28:04 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:28:04 PM
I heard bloomberg devalued their stocks

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:27:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:27:09 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:27:09 PM
I read something last week that claimed the reason we have no new nuke plants in the US is because the cost to make/run vs. the profit from power generation wasn't worth it. If this is the case it would also explain all of those very old Mark 1 plants still being in use and licensed far beyond their shutdown dates.

by Nancy at 3/26/2011 6:27:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:27:02 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:27:02 PM
(not that we need that just as a reference)

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:26:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:26:38 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:26:38 PM
@Dean ..how much you want to bet that the bankruptcy filing is already being worked on at TEPCO's lawyers?

by MaryMary at 3/26/2011 6:25:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:25:50 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:25:50 PM
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by Jo Lindien at 3/26/2011 6:25:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:25:46 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:25:46 PM
Check this out. www.sciencedaily.com

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:25:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:25:21 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:25:21 PM
@max: no, ceramics does not isolate well. It's used because it resists to very high temperatures. But, as far as I know, it does not resist well to shocks.

by Jo Lindien at 3/26/2011 6:25:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:25:00 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:25:00 PM
@Peter Melzer- how they could continue working at Chernobyl is beyond me. The dangers to the workers... no one cared... it is all about the money, the electricity, the "way of life" over the lives of the people. We as a species need to change our outlook.

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 6:24:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:24:59 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:24:59 PM
@Dean, no kidding, there are two blocks at the plant that seem to have survived intact. At Chernobyl, the remaining three blocks remained in use until the year 2000 or so. It is the need for electricity that will drive them.

by Peter Melzer at 3/26/2011 6:23:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:23:30 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:23:30 PM
hey one thing I wish that all reactors were not for profit... maybe that would help.. the big companies in utilities are all about the big bucks and stock holders in the companies..

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:23:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:23:25 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:23:25 PM
Doesn't ceramics isolate well. They're used extensively where temperature isolation is an issue - or am I wrong?

by Max at 3/26/2011 6:23:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:23:21 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:23:21 PM
@Jo Lindien and that a Huge market, with all the nuclear weapons that must been desactivated.

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 6:23:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:23:16 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:23:16 PM
true... Jo..

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:22:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:22:47 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:22:47 PM
There are some pretty amazing fundamental elements coming out of the ceramics department, I don't know about $$$ and availability, I worry that the scale of this is just.... too much.

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:22:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:22:42 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:22:42 PM
@dean: I think MOX is just all about money. The idea is that using uranium and plutonium from reprocessing * reduces the amount of waste to store (especially plutonium which is quite dangerous...) * reduces the volume of new uranium to buy (from Niger in case of France)

by Jo Lindien at 3/26/2011 6:21:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:21:51 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:21:51 PM
ceramics was interesting.. that's how they were going to encapsulate nuclear waste and then send it off to storage

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:21:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:21:37 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:21:37 PM
My father has said something to the like (one of the top molecular chemists in the world)

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:21:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:21:31 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:21:31 PM
question: has anyone looked at what the release of all that steam is doing to the jetstream/weather. Not saying anything about the particles or whathaveyou, but hte HEAT... could it cause weather phenomena globally? Just wondering

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 6:21:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:21:31 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:21:31 PM
There are some new ceramics out now

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:21:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:21:05 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:21:05 PM
@Patrick Kelley I would think its to brittle - especially in that area

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 6:20:44 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:20:44 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:20:44 PM
@Nancy i140.photobucket.com

by NHK Listener via I140.photobucket at 3/26/2011 6:20:32 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:20:32 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:20:32 PM
Janis, ditto. @ElaineKirk: It's just documentation aka CYA.

by Karen Warren at 3/26/2011 6:20:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:20:28 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:20:28 PM
Has anyone talked about ceramics for encasing?

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:19:48 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:19:48 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:19:48 PM
I only wish that the rest of these idiots would stop looking at the money and look at the danger. Just saying

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 6:19:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:19:41 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:19:41 PM
haha, the only Tepco news on Daiichi is:
"At approximately 4:46 pm on March 26nd, the light in the main control
room was turned on. "

by Petra at 3/26/2011 6:19:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:19:34 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:19:34 PM
theautomaticearth.blogspot.com

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 6:19:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:19:30 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:19:30 PM
Ok for those conspiracy enthusiasts read this

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 6:19:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:19:22 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:19:22 PM
@Dean- you are a wise man... obviously you'd see the danger.

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 6:18:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:18:43 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:18:43 PM
They could hire Baghdad Bob to do PR.

by Nancy at 3/26/2011 6:18:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:18:37 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:18:37 PM
I was around some testing done on the mox fuel and I was against it from the very beginning...

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:18:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:18:12 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:18:12 PM
@ Tenzing: Sorry, I am only a mechanical engineer. The problem of polymers is in this case for instance the heat transport. There have been vehicle engine housings workug well mechanically. But they didn't transport heat very well. In fact there was a polymer housed engine. It destroyed itself because the bearings overheated due to the inability to transport heat. Don't now how polymers react to radiation.

by Max at 3/26/2011 6:18:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:18:10 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:18:10 PM
@Janis [opinion]-->" I do believe that there is no way the earth can continue idefinitely on the path we are on." I totally agree on that, may be that disaster help us to change the path, not for our children, but for our their children. I have run a lawmowner with 75%water for 3 years, so my oil was 33% only, for the same result. So there are possibilities. It's just up to us to make them happen

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 6:18:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:18:01 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:18:01 PM
@elainekirk2001 That's the plant status of Daini, not Daiichi.

by kb at 3/26/2011 6:17:58 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:17:58 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:17:58 PM
@Meretisa @Dean @elainekirk2001 Daini Nuclear Power Station (as of 9:00 pm March 26th)

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 6:17:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:17:55 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:17:55 PM
Better read this one on Daiichi: www.tepco.co.jp
The link provided by elaine is of daini (shutdown)

by Petra at 3/26/2011 6:17:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:17:41 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:17:41 PM
LOL Dean.

by Nancy at 3/26/2011 6:17:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:17:39 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:17:39 PM
lol

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 6:17:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:17:34 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:17:34 PM
next they will be broadcast a startup date to get back on line next month...

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:17:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:17:25 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:17:25 PM
I did some reading on the Mark 1 BWRs after this all started. Not amused to find out that I have lived within 5 miles of 2 of them (Monticello MN and Pathfinder). After what I have seen & read that design and MOX fuel really needs to be rethought as far as continued use.

by Nancy at 3/26/2011 6:17:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:17:22 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:17:22 PM
shaking my head at TEPCO..

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:16:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:16:59 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:16:59 PM
@Sky I agree Sky, in 3 generations we have wreak havoc on this world and it seems that for every tech solution there is 10 new problems. Where does it end?

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 6:16:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:16:45 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:16:45 PM
@elainekirk2001 Erm... so it's "all better now"?? WTF

by Meretisa at 3/26/2011 6:16:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:16:28 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:16:28 PM

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Updated NISA reports www.nisa.meti.go.jp

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 6:16:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:16:16 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:16:16 PM
Karen, I like you. :) I think a lot of older Americans still feel this way.

by Janis at 3/26/2011 6:16:06 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:16:06 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:16:06 PM
This is tepco's latest press release www.tepco.co.jp do they think we are all mindless morons for whom a diet of BS is adequate?

by elainekirk at 3/26/2011 6:15:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:15:30 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:15:30 PM
@Sky, I agree 100%. And for anyone who is involved in engineering or risk management. Whenever you are developing anything and talking about backups and backups to backups, stop walk away, don't build it. Whatever you were designing is doomed.

by tippytoe at 3/26/2011 6:14:43 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:14:43 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:14:43 PM
The ZAMG notes that the total release of radioactivity in Fukushima in the wake of the relatively low effective dose, which is observed in Japan itself not to be underestimated. The bulk of the material has so far been transported to the Pacific and not in the interior. The iodine-131 values were measured in California and Hawaii, and not directly relevant for health. Place but a significant emission in the near order of magnitude reported by us. zamg.ac.at

if this continues, many countries have problems with this crisis.

by hans at 3/26/2011 6:14:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:14:17 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:14:17 PM
@Tenzing: polymers are not stable in time and hardly handle high temperatures. Would not be confident with such an entombment....

by Jo Lindien at 3/26/2011 6:14:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:14:14 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:14:14 PM
lol, No problem, Future. I am alll about creature comforts, and am thankful I was born now...would never make it without electricity, or even the internet! Just saying that some day, hopefully very, very, very long after we all are gone, I do believe that there is no way the earth can continue idefinitely on the path we are on. And I wouldn't be a bit surprised if technology ends up polluting or destroying so many of our resources that the earth as we know it will cease to exist. Good post, Sky.

by Janis at 3/26/2011 6:14:13 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:14:13 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:14:13 PM
Back for a bit.. @Janis: I agree with your father and have often thought said the same thing myself.

by Karen Warren at 3/26/2011 6:14:05 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:14:05 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:14:05 PM
Nice article from NY Times on radiation history www.nytimes.com

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:13:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:13:23 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:13:23 PM
@all Pardon my ignorance I'm just trying to think out of the box. Is it possible to use Polymers as an initial stage of entombment.

by Tenzing at 3/26/2011 6:13:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:13:03 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:13:03 PM
Future. you know at first I thought lets get things stabilized and sum up a long term plan... maybe that tin plan is really something to seriously think about.. good point

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:12:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:12:28 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:12:28 PM
I do not wish to offend, but this post might be controversial to those who are affiliated with the nuclear power industry. My purpose in posting is to invite those more knowledgeable to point out errors in my thinking.

I have long thought that nuclear power is inherently fraught with insurmountable difficulties. The vessels in which reactions occur, and all the related machinery such as conduits, instruments, and electrical service equipment, are subject to high temperatures and high radiation. Over time the radiation causes changes in the atomic species of the material, eventually leading to material fatigue (consider the need for periodic replacement of turbine blades in a BWR reactor where radioactive water/steam passes through the turbine by design). But how are these parts to be replaced, once the entire apparatus and environment has become so highly radioactive that no person can work nearby for long? Common sense suggests that the whole design concept was tragically flawed from the outset: these kinds of serious fundamental design issues cannot be overcome, no matter how much sophisticated computer modelling and engineering expertise may be thrown at it. Human life cannot depend on hypothetical "scheduled innovation" by future generations to figure out how to deal with 100,000 year problems we have created in this generation.

My professional experience was 25+ years in high tech, with significant focus on engineering design relating to high availability and high reliability in the event of multiple faults occuring in a complex system.

Please friends, I invite comments and if you can refute this I sincerely hope you will.

by Sky at 3/26/2011 6:12:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:12:02 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:12:02 PM
@John because they leaks, or are hot enough to convert water in steam, which leaks..

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 6:11:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:11:55 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:11:55 PM
@tippytoe. I believe a lot of Midwesterners are aware of the Mississippi River fault line, but no publicity on the subject. I recently moved from Memphis TN, and local government carrys out regularly scheduled earthquake disaster drills. Ever since the 1800s earthquake when the Mississippi River flowed backwards and formed Reelfoot Lake in northwestern TN, that part of the state has been preparing for the next big one. I suggest all to visit Reelfoot Lake, it is an amazing area. There is a forest that lies beneath the lake, as the result of the earthquake, and you can see treetops above the water.

by MaryW at 3/26/2011 6:11:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:11:07 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:11:07 PM
@dean : what do you think about the liquid metal cooling with tin, I mentionned earlier on Wipedia page for Fukushima incident ?

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 6:10:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:10:52 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:10:52 PM
@audi Conspiracy site for sure

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 6:10:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:10:51 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:10:51 PM
www.infowars.com .Dont know if this was posted already, and if the info is true.

by audi at 3/26/2011 6:10:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:10:22 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:10:22 PM
How water level in core can be the same since few days if they are injecting it... (jaif updates) ???

by John at 3/26/2011 6:10:19 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:10:19 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:10:19 PM
@Janis I don't agree, future and knowledge is a good thing, if we don't allow it to rule our life. and if we don't allow others to rule ous life with that technology . Light in houses, for ex , have been a huge progress, and Internet is much more a progress than television . my 2 cents, with respect for you father (mine does have quite the same feeling ;-) )

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 6:09:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:09:45 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:09:45 PM
If molten debris is collecting at the bottom of #1, the steam buildup will prevent cooling from water.

by Bobby1 at 3/26/2011 6:09:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:09:03 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:09:03 PM
maybe we could haul the reactors over to the volcano and dump in there to melt

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:09:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:09:02 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:09:02 PM
@Mejin Anything Greenpeace says is speculative.. They have an agenda

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 6:08:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:08:57 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:08:57 PM
@ Future Isnow : the main difference is that we, in France have decided to stock nuclear waste in order to use them in the future as fuel for Nuclear Plant. That what was the Super Phenix in France was all about. The technic is simple : In La Hague Nuclear Waste Building, they recycle the waste by decomposing it in 95 % of poor uranium, 4 % of dangerous waste, and 1 % of plutonium. The main goal is to use that 1% plutonium in order to make the 95% of poorr uranium usable as a fuel. It's some kind of utopist technology, but areva and the french government think this technic will be available and "safe" for the 4th generation of EPR (probably in 2050). We'll see if this technic is trusty or not, but at least, the company and authorities are trying to fix this nuclear waste issue.

by William Leglise at 3/26/2011 6:08:40 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:08:40 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:08:40 PM
@Max Some fresh water injections instead of seawater

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 6:07:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:07:55 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:07:55 PM
Back to the main issue: Basically the last 24 hours tell me nothing new? Some "hot" puddles - more or less salty, maybe some smoke, today probably only white, light in the control rooms, and besides that ...? Oh, I forgot: surely no immediate danger besides that. Any real progress available?

by Max at 3/26/2011 6:06:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:06:50 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:06:50 PM
@MaryW, If you'll check Ready.gov or FEMA's home site, you'll see Craig Fugate and his team have been promoting Earthquake safety awareness for many months, well before the smaller quakes that occurred there earlier this year. They've been pushing this because we're at the 199th anniversary of the big New Madrid quake. It's not been overlooked, just that few people care to pay attention.

by Nathan B at 3/26/2011 6:06:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:06:46 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:06:46 PM
This is totally off topic, so ignore if you like: All this talk of nuclear power reminds me of something my father always used to say....He was born in 1914 and was raised dirt poor, but on a farm where his family was totally self sufficient. No electricity, horse and buggy, well water, home grown food, etc. Till the day he died in 2003 he ALWAYS used to say, "Technology is going to eventually destroy the earth". He even said that having electricity "wasn't the way God intended". lol I always thought he was nuts, and just so old fashioned and resistant to change. I could never understand what on earth he had against "progress.....Well, I finally get it.

by Janis at 3/26/2011 6:06:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:06:27 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:06:27 PM
@Dean: it may be easier to make it sink than entomber it... And maybe safer, who knows ?

by Jo Lindien at 3/26/2011 6:06:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:06:18 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:06:18 PM
I'm asking myself how Greenpace wants to get so close to the reactor to measure their own data - and if they would get there... there is the question, if they will show us "real" datas or maybe exaggerated ones.

by Mejin at 3/26/2011 6:06:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:06:17 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:06:17 PM
how bout a great wall of china kind of structure out into the ocean built so strong a 50 foot tsunami wouldn't crash it.. and then bury the reactor and cement it in

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:06:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:06:10 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:06:10 PM
@radioguy Sounds like the answer to the plant (and Chernobyl??)!!! [Pyramids]

by Dennis Tucker Jr at 3/26/2011 6:05:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:05:56 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:05:56 PM
www.ustream.tv Water in turbine room not from spent fuel pool.

by Bobby1 at 3/26/2011 6:04:51 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:04:51 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:04:51 PM
The very base fact of all of this, is we cannot, and never will be able, to control nature. The more "control" we have, the less we worry about consequences. Our technology is wondrous, but the long and short of it, is the earth will always hold us at her mercy.

"It's not the end of the world, but I can see if from here"

by Patrick Kelley at 3/26/2011 6:04:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:04:36 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:04:36 PM
@Dean ...and what would that continual salt water spray exposure do to concrete...?

by MaryMary at 3/26/2011 6:04:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:04:34 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:04:34 PM
peter.. I think the mox program was sort of put together to burn up what they didn't want to store to get into another countries hand with bad intentions

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:04:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:04:30 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:04:30 PM
I have a hard time imaging such a huge facility around the ones there to protect it... dang.. a whole bunch of concrete

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:03:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:03:03 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:03:03 PM
@radioguy We have an experiment burry of ultimate waste : it will be at 650/750 meters under the soil . it is study to saty there without leaking for 200 000 years. it have started 10 years ago, and the experimental place is not over : have in mind that no waste will be disposed there, it's just a study ... Hubert Reeves, an astrophysician, have said about it : it's good . but how the men could now the future ? imagine that the egyptian have burried deadly waste under the pyramids. who will be take care of them , survey them now ?, who will remember it ? and pyramids , it's only less than 7000 years

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 6:02:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:02:54 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:02:54 PM
@Dean, I was reading about the use of MOX fuel on the post you linked earlier this morning. Is this procedure a poor-man's alternative to a fast breeder? Whatever happened to that technology anyway?

by Peter Melzer at 3/26/2011 6:02:45 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:02:45 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:02:45 PM
@MaryW, that's good to know some people are aware of the fault line here. The public needs to make sure that the owners of Nuclear plants in the area know about it and have backup plans for it too.

by tippytoe at 3/26/2011 6:02:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:02:38 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:02:38 PM
This has always been my biggest issue with fission. I don't think we humans are even capable of thinking realistically about designs that can outlast this stuff. The pyramids are what, 5,000 years old? And when the planners are thinking in fiscal quarters...

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 6:02:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:02:37 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:02:37 PM
ty mary mary .. I try because people in japan have used us to make decisions for their family...

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:01:46 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:01:46 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:01:46 PM
I believe the sea waters starts a corrosion on all components it comes in contact with immediately and extremely bad in the fuel core...

by Dean at 3/26/2011 6:01:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:01:15 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:01:15 PM
@ Dean ... please don't...you are one of our most reliable sources of cold, hard facts. Hope this blog/forum doesn't dissolve into he said/she said...

by MaryMary at 3/26/2011 6:00:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:00:35 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:00:35 PM
@tippytoe. Regarding Midwest fault line, i feel a lot of people are aware of it but no publicity on it. I just recently moved from Memphis TN and local governments in the area have regularly scheduled training on earthquake disasters and also construct earthquake proof buildings as part of their planning. t Ever since the big earthquake in the 1800's when the Mississippi River flowed backwards creating Realfoot Lake in Northern TN.

by MaryW at 3/26/2011 6:00:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 6:00:30 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:00:30 PM
hb jim

by Dean at 3/26/2011 5:59:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:59:49 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:59:49 AM

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geeeeeze.. radio.. let me see here....

by Dean at 3/26/2011 5:59:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:59:24 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:59:24 AM
Too bad I gotta go. Be back.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 5:59:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:59:21 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:59:21 AM
Hello everyone. Dean, thanks so much for your partipation. Please ignore this post if it's already been discussed. I was wondering about the impact of several days' worth of corrosive seawater on the 40-year-old reactors. Thanks.

by Christine at 3/26/2011 5:59:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:59:15 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:59:15 AM
conspiracy hour? jim I'll join in on the philosiphisizing

by Dean at 3/26/2011 5:58:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:58:22 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:58:22 AM
we know that radioactive stuff leak when under sea water: France used to store nuclear waste dropping it in the English channel. We have evidences that they leak now, even if the containers were supposed to last for 500 years...

by Jo Lindien at 3/26/2011 5:58:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:58:20 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:58:20 AM
@Jim in the absence of news, what else can we do? :)

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:58:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:58:02 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:58:02 AM
@Janis Never is everyday a new one lol

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 5:57:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:57:54 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:57:54 AM
@jay77 I liked that one and the attempt to warn future generations

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 5:57:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:57:26 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:57:26 AM
Oh. Is it over George? lol

by Janis at 3/26/2011 5:56:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:56:49 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:56:49 AM
@Jo Lindien Not true. You could continue to dump solids on it to protect it from the sea. It's the future seismic activity that would be the concern there.

by Dennis Tucker Jr at 3/26/2011 5:56:41 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:56:41 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:56:41 AM
@Dean The question is, what kind of decommissioning/entombment will survive a sea level rise that covers it?

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:56:37 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:56:37 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:56:37 AM
@Dean wb Dean you missed conspiracy hour lol

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 5:55:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:55:59 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:55:59 AM
Hi Dean, we're philosiphisizing, or whatever.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 5:55:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:55:55 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:55:55 AM
You guys might be interested in this movie www.intoeternitythemovie.com about what it means to store something for 100s of thousands of years... "nothing built by man has lasted even a 10th of that timeframe"

by jay77 at 3/26/2011 5:55:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:55:47 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:55:47 AM
Hey same Dean

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:55:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:55:42 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:55:42 AM
@Jim Carver Inventive, not resilient. We don't have a long enough hisroty to be called resilient in that kind of time frame.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:55:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:55:17 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:55:17 AM
@ radioguy & Jo: It makes me feel extremely good to see that france is planning reactors in the sea, and russia is even building one.

by Max at 3/26/2011 5:54:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:54:54 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:54:54 AM
hy all . this is the same dean ... back from errands

by Dean at 3/26/2011 5:54:52 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:54:52 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:54:52 AM
But how?

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:54:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:54:27 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:54:27 AM
Cool it, take it apart and decommission it was the thinking.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:54:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:54:20 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:54:20 AM
@radioguy I would take tropics over an ice age. But humans are a very resilient species.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 5:54:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:54:20 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:54:20 AM
@tippytoe I have never broadened my view of energy to see that correllation before (as far as space, matter and energy are concerned). Thank you!

by Dennis Tucker Jr at 3/26/2011 5:54:18 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:54:18 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:54:18 AM
@radioguy [sad opinion]unfortunatly, shareholders just think to tomorrow benefits, and they rules. and it's the same everywhere : every government, except Germany, have said it would not stop anything. In India, there is a real dangerous Plant. but the same is in USA, Russia, France, etc...

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 5:54:01 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:54:01 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:54:01 AM
So then what's the alternative?

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:53:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:53:57 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:53:57 AM
# Jim CArver And that's supposed to be good news???

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:52:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:52:33 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:52:33 AM
@radioguy: if the plan is under sea water, there's nothing that can be done: sea would corode the entombment; it would take a few years before the radiation starts spreading

by Jo Lindien at 3/26/2011 5:52:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:52:28 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:52:28 AM
@ radioguy: My opinion is simple: NO

by Max at 3/26/2011 5:52:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:52:14 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:52:14 AM
I think even the possibility of a sea level rise happening in the next century makes us ask the question: Will our entombment design for this plant survive being under water for 240,000 years.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:51:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:51:35 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:51:35 AM
@tippyjoe: I am aware of that discussions, but don't really want to think of that. But especially when anyone still tells us our reactors are safe - no matter where in the world, this issue is a thing I don't want to think of. Our ractors seem to have 2 hours time until the need eternal power. If not - there are 17, ok, now down to 10 permanent candles. And even if we get rid of ours let's say within 10 years, we will enjoy the rest (french/britain) candles as a result of the next atlantic low pressure weather rains....

Fortunately: this won't be discussed widely via internet... anymore
It would be simply: game over.
Besides that: Everything still safe here, until...

by Max at 3/26/2011 5:50:57 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:50:57 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:50:57 AM
I meant global climatic cycling : to clarify

by Dennis Tucker Jr at 3/26/2011 5:50:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:50:38 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:50:38 AM
The HAARP site showed a high level of geomagnetic activity prior to and following the quake. maestro.haarp.alaska.edu

by Bobby1 at 3/26/2011 5:50:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:50:22 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:50:22 AM
@George, It might not be the end of the world. Me and some other clinically insane are stockpiling storable foods and other endurables. If they can keep the nuclear plants from killing us we might have chance.

by tippytoe at 3/26/2011 5:50:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:50:22 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:50:22 AM
Why is it we can observe global climatic changes on distant planets but still fail to realize the same thing applies to our own planet?

by Dennis Tucker Jr at 3/26/2011 5:50:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:50:10 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:50:10 AM
@NHK Listener Current models predict a cooling trend as fresh water melting disrupts hypo-saline ocean currents.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 5:50:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:50:10 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:50:10 AM
I lived in Boulder in the shadow of NCAR for decades. I've talked climate modeling since the mid 70s with those guys. I call it what it is.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:49:34 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:49:34 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:49:34 AM
www.nisa.meti.go.jp

by Sky at 3/26/2011 5:49:30 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:49:30 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:49:30 AM
I'm still trying to catch up with what you-all wrote overnight. This NISA document presents the current data about each reactor 1-6 in a graphical format that is more digestible. Take a look.

by Sky at 3/26/2011 5:49:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:49:28 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:49:28 AM
lol

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 5:49:09 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:49:09 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:49:09 AM
@radioguy The old term was "Weather" :-)

by M at 3/26/2011 5:48:54 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:48:54 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:48:54 AM
@Jim Carver, Yes and astrophysicist Piers Corbyn www.weatheraction.com has shown that solar activity helps to initiate earthquakes. In fact, a CME hit the earth just before the Japanese quake. The charged particles in these solar ejections interacts with the Earth's magnetic field which in turn can lead to seismic events.

by tippytoe at 3/26/2011 5:48:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:48:33 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:48:33 AM
@vasras I look at it, thanks for the links. it didn't learn me anything, except that it's not mox fuel, and that they didn't put the spent fuel on the right place on the pictures.

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 5:48:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:48:28 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:48:28 AM
@radioguy lol

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 5:48:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:48:25 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:48:25 AM
lol

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 5:48:25 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:48:25 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:48:25 AM
I know. I use the old term as an act of defiance. ;)

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:48:12 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:48:12 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:48:12 AM
@radioguy Isn't is called climate change now? In the 70s it was global cooling..

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 5:47:31 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:47:31 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:47:31 AM

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Fukushima Prefecture is the freight gateway to the tsunami inundated parts of Tohoku, it's really slow going to get north of Sendai via the mountains of Niigata and Yamagata, I can't see them extending the evacuation zone west as this will affect the supply lines

by andyjsha at 3/26/2011 5:47:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:47:27 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:47:27 AM
@tippytoe not to worry if that happens - it will be an immediate collapse of civilization and it will be over quick

by George Gibb at 3/26/2011 5:46:26 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:46:26 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:46:26 AM
Given the time frames involved, and the results of one quick dousing with a tsunami, am I the only one wondering how you maintain the entombment on a failed nuclear plant when it's under 20 meters or so of water (assuming global warming is real)?

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:46:03 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:46:03 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:46:03 AM
@Dennis Tucker Jr [url=http://www.osti.gov/bridge/purl.cover.jsp?purl=/6124656-R8y05j/]BWR REACTOR VESSEL BOTTOM HEAD FAILURE MODES[/url] Melt through is like 28 hours

by NHK Listener at 3/26/2011 5:45:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:45:36 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:45:36 AM
@tippytoe: in France, nuclear plants have fuel generators. Same story as for Japan: no C plan if you run out of fuel....

by Jo Lindien at 3/26/2011 5:45:17 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:45:17 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:45:17 AM
@tippytoe Yes, and that is real. NASA issued an alert for solar maximum 2012-13.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 5:44:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:44:23 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:44:23 AM
Did you see this Areva analysis slide set from yesterday about the assumed timeline of the reactor problem: scr.bi . Very good analysis along with good diagrams.

by vasras at 3/26/2011 5:44:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:44:10 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:44:10 AM
@Future Isnow and everyone else who has a power plant in their backyard. Two things really worry me about nuclear power. 1) Its vulnerable to power outages. There was a huge solar storm in 1859 (google Carrington Event 1859), experts say that if it happened today it could destroy the electrical grid completely. Do any nuclear power plants have a contingency plan for a completely destroyed electrical grid? 2) Recorded history is too short. I live in Illinois on a major fault line. Nobody knows that the midwest lays on a major fault line. Look into the New Madrid Fault Line. Also look at NLE 2011, a FEMA exercise to respond to a large earthquake in the region www.fema.gov

by tippytoe at 3/26/2011 5:42:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:42:15 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:42:15 AM
@Bobby1 I asked 'how long we had' not 'if it was happening'.....

by Dennis Tucker Jr at 3/26/2011 5:41:42 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:41:42 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:41:42 AM
collective relocation of fukushima residents www3.nhk.or.jp

by nls at 3/26/2011 5:40:33 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:40:33 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:40:33 AM
Greenpeace: From Our radiation sampling team in Japan (26.3. 16:18): "The alarms of the devices can't be turned off, and in particularly high radiation areas they'd all go off. There was one place we hit such a high reading that we didn't even stop there.". There appears to be hotspots.

by vasras at 3/26/2011 5:40:21 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:40:21 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:40:21 AM
@Max True. Infrastructure maintenance is expensive and not sexy.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:40:20 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:40:20 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:40:20 AM
@Dennis Tucker Jr The question seems to be "when", not "if".

by Bobby1 at 3/26/2011 5:39:07 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:39:07 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:39:07 AM
@ bobby1- good find.

by stef at 3/26/2011 5:39:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:39:00 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:39:00 AM
@marymary well put.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:38:49 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:38:49 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:38:49 AM
Asahi repots "Radiation from Fukushima exceeds TMI". 3.2 million Bequerels/square-meter on 20th of march in Itate. Wow, if true, that was quite a hot spot. I wonder what else they have been covering about the radiation measurements. The radiation does not have to disperse evenly, especially during windy/rainy weather.

by vasras at 3/26/2011 5:38:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:38:38 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:38:38 AM
I'm nearly holding my breath waiting for the inevitable (though in Japanese) "Who could have expected..."

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:38:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:38:24 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:38:24 AM
@Bobby1 You picked up on that also, eh? Yeah. So how long DO we have until it melts ALL the way through would have been my next question.

by Dennis Tucker Jr at 3/26/2011 5:38:16 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:38:16 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:38:16 AM
@radioguy This is like watching a duck swim...above the water it is all calm and unruffled, under the surface it is paddling like mad

by MaryMary at 3/26/2011 5:38:14 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:38:14 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:38:14 AM
Real change only comes from the ground up. Don't look for the status quo to provide answers.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 5:37:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:37:59 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:37:59 AM
@radioguy: Problem was: Feeding pumps destroyed. Diesels worked! Only thing: they ran out of fuel. Their tanks have been wisely placed unprotected at the edge to the coast. Not a problem of a 40 year old design. A 40 year old mistake could easily have been detected and solved. No one really reviewed the problems of the layout & backup solutions.

by Max at 3/26/2011 5:37:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:37:56 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:37:56 AM
Reuters Photogallery, March 25th blogs.reuters.com

by kgriff at 3/26/2011 5:37:39 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:37:39 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:37:39 AM
www.ustream.tv Wow this guy is nervous. Temperature at bottom of pressure vessel in #1 is 400 C. He says this is not itself a problem, but it indicates molten fuel may be collecting at the bottom.

by Bobby1 at 3/26/2011 5:37:29 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:37:29 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:37:29 AM
@ radioguy-- the silence that we are hearing now is the storm that is already in progress. When they figure out a plan- they'll tell us all about it.

by stef at 3/26/2011 5:37:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:37:28 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:37:28 AM
@radioguy @stef Right on.

by Dennis Tucker Jr at 3/26/2011 5:37:23 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:37:23 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:37:23 AM
I'm worried by the silence. It's like the calm before the storm.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:36:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:36:47 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:36:47 AM
and the most "secured nuclear industry", france , does exactly the same, and guess what ? a nuclear plant that experts wanted to be shut off in 2000, have get a 20 more years licence, just above a fault line...

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 5:35:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:35:55 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:35:55 AM
just to be clear- I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm not anti gov or some crazy (of course that is my opinion! :P ) but I do like to think that I am fairly intelligent in that I have common sense as well as use that common sense to figure out what may happen next, its kind of like standing at the edge of a building...you know that if you walk off of that building, you're going to fall off- you can see it in your head without actually doing it....where I'm going with this is...it seems like we all are waiting for the worst to happen- but we look to the media or to our leaders to put our minds at ease not by bs'ing us...but by simply stating "this is what is going on, like it or not, its happening...now use your common sense and do what you have to do to protect your life" ...they use "panic" as an excuse for the sugar coating...when in reality while there are a few freakshows that will be ridiculous- the panic is really caused by us figuring out we're being lied to. When trust is lost, what more can you have faith in...a good outcome is certainly not focused on.

by stef at 3/26/2011 5:34:50 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:34:50 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:34:50 AM
GE is happy they can point at Libya.

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:34:38 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:34:38 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:34:38 AM
@radioguy yes, really, there are "experts..."

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 5:34:28 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:34:28 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:34:28 AM
@radioguy agreed 100%

by amianda at 3/26/2011 5:34:27 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:34:27 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:34:27 AM
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by amianda at 3/26/2011 5:34:02 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:34:02 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:34:02 AM
@Paul (UK) Imagine if it were in the US or UK. Enough finger pointing going around to get stabbed in the eye.

by Jim Carver at 3/26/2011 5:34:00 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:34:00 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:34:00 AM
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by amianda at 3/26/2011 5:33:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:33:56 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:33:56 AM
The earthquake caused a tsunami which did what tsunamis do. The failure here was in the original design 40 years ago which looked at the historical record, saw no tsunamis over 25 feet, and decided that it meant 25 foot wall would be high enough. Having decided that, they took the false premise that no tsunami would be over 25 feet, built the wall, and then based the remaining design on that wall (and premise) being true. Pumps and generators located on low ground right by the seawall in a tsunami zone? Really??

by radioguy at 3/26/2011 5:32:59 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:32:59 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:32:59 AM
@ Paul (UK) Agree 100%, well put.

by Rucco at 3/26/2011 5:32:56 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:32:56 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:32:56 AM
Mmm I see. I understand Daiichi was supposed to be closed last year but the government approved it for another was it 10 yrs of use? To me this is a huge mistake that may have changed the result we are seeing.

by amianda at 3/26/2011 5:32:55 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:32:55 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:32:55 AM
@tippytoe yes, it's exactly what is doing France today : we have the best security, japan probleme will never happen here. exactly the same Japan Tepco and Nisa have told to the Japan's people: a eartquake of 9 will never happen...

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 5:32:15 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:32:15 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:32:15 AM
CORRECTION: *everyWHERE I go....

by Dennis Tucker Jr at 3/26/2011 5:32:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:32:10 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:32:10 AM
@M With respect, I do take your points, and agree with much of the logic on why the media aren't focussing on this. But I think the difference here is that a potential worldwide disaster is still nor resolved, and thus remains a real threat, currently stabilized situation or not. Funny then that an issue with such magnitude could be relegated down to the footnotes of all the major news channels. Even if there are no BIG new happenings to report on, there are so many aspects, consequences, connections, concerns, questions, debates, opinions etc. to be followed up on.... you know, the kind of thing that followed after say 911. There's been a distinct lack of the usual media frenzy I would expect, especially given this is a huge matter and nowhere near over yet, by anyone's account.

by Paul (UK) at 3/26/2011 5:31:10 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:31:10 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:31:10 AM
@M I guess it really just matters what is important to the person. Because of the implications of "not handling it properly", I think most of us here consider this near the top of the priority list. The more knowledge spread, the better chance we have of keeping the worst from happening because you never know- the guy who knows "why it's doing that" could be watching/reading.....

I don't like constant weather coverage either, but everywear I go, something's telling me the temperature! I only care if it's summertime or winter!!! Quit telling me the degrees!!

You get my point by now I hope.

by Dennis Tucker Jr at 3/26/2011 5:30:36 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:30:36 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:30:36 AM
oooops: that NO medias mention (or talk about) thousands of people . sorry mystaping

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 5:30:24 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:30:24 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:30:24 AM
@George, RE:brainwashing. He's saying we are told this nuclear incident happened only because of quake and tsunami, otherwise nuclear power is totally safe. Unless you get the one two punch of earthquake tsunami nothing bad can happen. So, everyone with a Nuclear power plant in your backyard, sit down, don't question anything about it unless perhaps it could be exposed to an earthquake followed by a tsunami.

by tippytoe at 3/26/2011 5:29:35 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:29:35 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:29:35 AM
@radioguy- you got it.

by stef at 3/26/2011 5:28:47 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:28:47 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:28:47 AM
@stef I agree that a few medias mention thousands of japan people, including at Fukushima prefecture, against the nuclear plant on fault line, or the use of Mox..

by Future Isnow at 3/26/2011 5:28:22 PMdocument.write( LiveBlog.ConvertServerTimeToLocalTimeFriendlyString( "3/26/2011 5:28:22 PM" ) )Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:28:22 AM

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